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Trump to begin formal withdrawal from World Health Org

Postby Asle Leopolka » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:51 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/coronav ... ation.html

White House begins the process of withdrawing from the World Health Organization
PUBLISHED TUE, JUL 7 20202:50 PM EDTUPDATED 14 MIN AGO

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration has submitted to the U.N. secretary-general its notice to withdraw from the World Health Organization by July 6, 2021, a senior administration official confirmed to CNBC.

The notice to the United Nations was the first step in a yearlong process that will rely on several factors outside of Trump’s control, including cooperation from Congress and the president’s own reelection in November, neither of which are assured.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said he would have the U.S. rejoin the WHO on day one of his presidency, were he to defeat Trump this November.

The move comes as coronavirus cases are again surging in the United States. Nearly 3 million people in the nation have contracted the disease, while more than 130,000 have died, according to a Johns Hopkins University tally. Worldwide, the virus has infected 11.69 million and killed more than 540,000.

Whether the president has the unilateral authority under U.S. law to withdraw from the WHO, which is the health agency of the U.N., is the subject of scholarly debate, according to a June report from the Congressional Research Service. Answering that question would require a court to “confront several complicated issues of first impression,” the nonpartisan organization found.

In April, Trump said that he had suspended U.S. funding to the organization pending a review, citing what he called “the World Health Organization’s role in severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus.”

A month later, he announced his intentions to leave the organization amid the coronavirus pandemic, citing what he called the WHO’s misuse of funding and its cozy relationship with China. The coronavirus is widely believed to have originated from China.

“China has total control over the World Health Organization, despite only paying $40 million per year compared to what the United States has been paying, which is approximately $450 million a year,” Trump explained during remarks made in the Rose Garden.

“We have detailed the reforms that it must make and engage with them directly, but they have refused to act. Because they have failed to make the requested and greatly needed reforms, we will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization and redirecting those funds to other worldwide and deserving, urgent, global public health needs,” he added at the time.

The WHO did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment.

The decision to end the partnership between the United States and the WHO has drawn criticism from congressional lawmakers. Earlier this month, House Republicans argued that the United States would be able to have a bigger impact on the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic if the country remained part of the international group.


To avoid the mod stick, I personally think this is incredibly short-sighted and is another glaring example of the US's mishandling of the COVID situation.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:59 pm

Mods are gonna tell you to expand your op and include your opinion on the topic.

Anyway, this is perhaps one of the stupidest things the current administration has done. Of all the times to pull out of the WHO, why now?
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:02 pm

Good. The WHO has demonstrated throughout this pandemic that it is not fit for purpose.
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Postby Space Lads » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:03 pm

I'm sorry if anyone disagrees, but he is clearly very stupid and doesn't know a thing about leadership. It's all about the headlines for him. He knows CNN will go crazy over it. That's why he does these ridiculous actions. But really, would a smart person say "Oh, during the middle of the worst pandemic since the Spanish Flu, lets pull out of a intergovernmental organization that will help us get through it!" Like, WHAT?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:03 pm

Another brain dead move from Trump and his administration.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:10 pm

Not surprised. I am sure we will soon be hearing campaign ads about it wasn't his incompetence over the pandemic; it was those Chinese people!......
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Postby Outer Bratorke » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:12 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:Good. The WHO has demonstrated throughout this pandemic that it is not fit for purpose.


America has the most COVID-19 cases in the world, the Federal government refused to take it seriously when the threat was first announced,and they even refused to use test kits that worked because they wanted to make their own.

Nobody has said WHO was perfect, but the US would be in much better shape if the Federal Government actually listened to them, and not try to play politics during a time like this.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:13 pm

Trump is very smart to do this. Corpses of americans are going to pile up under his rule either way. But if he pins it on somebody else and than commits to decisive action against that someone else he can turn a defeat into a victory. And that's really all that matters.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:14 pm

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Kragholm Free States wrote:Good. The WHO has demonstrated throughout this pandemic that it is not fit for purpose.


America has the mos COVID-19 cases in the world, the Federal government refused to take it seriously when the threat was first announced,and they even refused to use test kits that worked because they wanted to make their own.

Nobody has said WHO was perfect, but the US would be in much better shape if the Federal Government actually listened to them, and not try to play politics during a time like this.

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Postby Kragholm Free States » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 pm

Outer Bratorke wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:Good. The WHO has demonstrated throughout this pandemic that it is not fit for purpose.


America has the mos COVID-19 cases in the world, the Federal government refused to take it seriously when the threat was first announced,and they even refused to use test kits that worked because they wanted to make their own.

Nobody has said WHO was perfect, but the US would be in much better shape if the Federal Government actually listened to them, and not try to play politics during a time like this.


America's abysmal handling of the crisis has nothing to do with whether or not they've been listening to the WHO. The WHO has given inconsistent, deliberately vague, and sometimes downright terrible advice throughout. Torn between an incompetent idiot in the White House and a gang of incompetent idiots posing as credible public health experts, the US was fucked either way.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:18 pm

Asle Leopolka wrote:https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/coronavirus-white-house-begins-process-of-withdrawing-from-world-health-organization.html
The notice to the United Nations was the first step in a yearlong process that will rely on several factors outside of Trump’s control, including cooperation from Congress and the president’s own reelection in November, neither of which are assured.

Good thing it isn't guaranteed, though. There isn't much of a chance for the US to actually withdraw from the WHO.
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Postby Doom Legions » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 pm

Solid move and overall based af.
The WHO has shown itself to be utterly incapable of fulfilling its duties. They seem more concerned with slurping that sweet chinese money.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:21 pm

Doom Legions wrote:Solid move and overall based af.
The WHO has shown itself to be utterly incapable of fulfilling its duties. They seem more concerned with slurping that sweet chinese money.


Hmmm I didn't American executives and politicians were running the WHO.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:22 pm

Best thing he's ever done. Maybe this will finally whip the WHO's arses into line, and we'll finally get rid of that horrible "Doctor" Tedros, the real life version of the Simpsons' character Dr. Nick Riviera. Without the USA's funding, let's see if those dickheads can continue to jepodise world health by being CCP shills. Based on their handling of Covid, I'd sooner take medical advice from my dog than from "Doctor" Tedros, or any of his crew. I wish that Australia would follow suite
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Australian rePublic wrote:Best thing he's ever done. Maybe this will finally whip the WHO's arses into line, and we'll finally get rid of that horrible "Doctor" Tedros, the real life version of the Simpsons' character Dr. Nick Riviera. Without the USA's funding, let's see if those dickheads can continue to jepodise world health by being CCP shills. Based on their handling of Covid, I'd sooner take medical advice from my dog than from "Doctor" Tedros, or any of his crew. I wish that Australia would follow suite

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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:31 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Best thing he's ever done. Maybe this will finally whip the WHO's arses into line, and we'll finally get rid of that horrible "Doctor" Tedros, the real life version of the Simpsons' character Dr. Nick Riviera. Without the USA's funding, let's see if those dickheads can continue to jepodise world health by being CCP shills. Based on their handling of Covid, I'd sooner take medical advice from my dog than from "Doctor" Tedros, or any of his crew. I wish that Australia would follow suite

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:33 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:Said someone who has been condemned because of corruption

That's not how this game works...


You think this move was because he wanted to "save" the WHO?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:40 pm

Is it the fault of China for not handling COVID well enough initially? Probably. Is it the fault of Trump for not handling COVID once it reached our shores? Definitely.

He can deflect all he wants, but the reality is, no matter how idiotic Tedros was initially and no matter how incompetent WHO can be, the 130,000 dead Americans are on him. And leaving WHO unilaterally as a show of petulance won't fix that. WHO isn't perfect, and it has shown displays of incompetency now and in the past, but ffs, it's a net benefit overall.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:47 pm

Doom Legions wrote:Solid move and overall based af.
The WHO has shown itself to be utterly incapable of fulfilling its duties. They seem more concerned with slurping that sweet chinese money.

Slurping a whole $40 million dollars, less than %0.25 of it's total annual budget, that's more of a tiny sip than a slurp.
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Postby Esternial » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:50 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:Good. The WHO has demonstrated throughout this pandemic that it is not fit for purpose.

That's fair, the WHO and the president did have more in common than expected.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:52 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Doom Legions wrote:Solid move and overall based af.
The WHO has shown itself to be utterly incapable of fulfilling its duties. They seem more concerned with slurping that sweet chinese money.

Slurping a whole $40 million dollars, less than %0.25 of it's total annual budget, that's more of a tiny sip than a slurp.


How much has your boy slurped up since taking office?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Slurping a whole $40 million dollars, less than %0.25 of it's total annual budget, that's more of a tiny sip than a slurp.


How much has your boy slurped up since taking office?

My who?
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Postby Esternial » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:55 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
How much has your boy slurped up since taking office?

My who?

I think he meant Trump, not the WHO.

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Postby Vetalia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:56 pm

So the solution to countering Chinese influence on the WHO is to withdraw from the WHO?

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