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Postby Diahon » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:27 pm

Ding dong.

Jonathan Sackler, one of the owners of OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma, has died, the company confirmed.

Sackler died June 30, according to a court filing. He was 65 and the cause of death was cancer.

He was the son of Raymond Sackler, one of the brothers who bought drug company Purdue Frederick in 1952, and served as an executive and board member for the company that was later renamed Purdue Pharma. Like other members of the Sackler family, he has stepped off the board of the company in recent years, though family members retain ownership.


So yeah, this is a thing now. Hoo boy, how to open this thread without running afoul of the mods?

Oh well -- incoherence, maybe.

For all those wondering what the hubbub is about, the Sackler family, a notorious corporation of money addicts (the rare addiction no one can die from directly, though for indirect deaths it can be quite the stunner) is one of the poster people(?) of pharmaceutical malice intersecting quite nicely with capitalist shortsightedness since the turn of the millennium, at least in the United States..

Well, them and that smirking fucking asshole EpiPen jackoff Martin fucking Shkreli.

But enough about that ratface, back to the Sacklers and the company they once piloted hard -- to the ground, that is. Let Wikipedia take my words:

In 2007, it paid out one of the largest fines ever levied against a pharmaceutical firm for mislabeling its product OxyContin, and three executives were found guilty of criminal charges. Although the company shifted its focus to abuse-deterrent formulations, Purdue continued to market and sell opioids as late as 2019, and continued to be involved in lawsuits around the opioid epidemic in the United States. Purdue filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on September 15, 2019 in New York.


Not told in that quote is the fact that the Sacklers, upon learning that Purdue Pharma would shortly face legal scrutiny, made the decision to run to the bank with the money they pilfered off hundreds and thousamds of addicted and dead people, to the tune of $10.7 billion (according to the report of the auditing firm they hired to steer their gilded parachutes through bankruptcy), or more than thrice the amount of money they were willing to settle with the families of the victims they snookered.

So, yes, incoherent anger, just the way this one sacked Sackler would've liked it, I guess.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:35 pm

I'm not gonna comment on this. Let's just say I'm not sad.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:44 pm

Ironic. He could save others from death (for a price), but not himself.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:30 pm

He died of cancer. I wonder if he was drugged out on his own poison to numb the pain he had.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:35 pm

It is very sad he helped a lot of people deal with unbearable pain.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm

Thank fuck. I don't believe in hell, but I'll make an exception for this bastard.
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Postby Huato » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:42 pm

Oh well!

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:07 am

Greed and Death wrote:It is very sad he helped a lot of people deal with unbearable pain.


Do you mean it's sad he helped a lot of people with pain, or it's sad he died?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am

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Greed and Death wrote:It is very sad he helped a lot of people deal with unbearable pain.


Do you mean it's sad he helped a lot of people with pain, or it's sad he died?


It's greed and death, so it could be either.

If Sackler's company hadn't made opioids, some other company would have. That accounts for g&d's concern for sick people who actually need the stuff.

But the other company would hopefully not have promoted the drug so dishonestly.
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:33 am

Terrible news. He should have been convicted and died in prison instead.


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Postby Negev Chan » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:36 am

& Nothing of value was lost. :clap:

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:41 am

Going a bit far, Negev Chan.

That kind of language is fine, for someone (not an NS member) who is alive, or someone long dead.

But you could be warned for gloating.

And personally I find it distasteful. I'm a bit old-fashioned that way.
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Postby CoraSpia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:26 am

lots more people would be in pain if it wasn't for him. He stopped that.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:29 am

CoraSpia wrote:lots more people would be in pain if it wasn't for him. He stopped that.


No they wouldn't. There has been a legitimate demand for opioids, and legitimate suppliers, for more than a century. NO one company is necessary for there to be adequate supply.
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Postby Nevertopia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:31 am

CoraSpia wrote:lots more people would be in pain if it wasn't for him. He stopped that.

His company is known for pushing doctors to overprescribe OxyCotin thus contributing to the opioid crisis. Too much medicine is called poison.
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Postby The Remote Islands » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:34 am

Looks like he committed die

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Nevertopia wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:lots more people would be in pain if it wasn't for him. He stopped that.

His company is known for pushing doctors to overprescribe OxyCotin thus contributing to the opioid crisis. Too much medicine is called poison.


Yeah, there's no really denying his role in the opioid crisis. I make it a policy not to celebrate deaths unless it's Hitler or something, but this guy won't be missed.
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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:lots more people would be in pain if it wasn't for him. He stopped that.


No they wouldn't. There has been a legitimate demand for opioids, and legitimate suppliers, for more than a century. NO one company is necessary for there to be adequate supply.

But they didn't get doctors to give everyone more than they needed. Some people might be in slight pain because the drugs woar off; he made sure that didn't happen because there was always enough drug to go around.
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The Remote Islands wrote:Looks like he committed die

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Nevertopia wrote:His company is known for pushing doctors to overprescribe OxyCotin thus contributing to the opioid crisis. Too much medicine is called poison.


Yeah, there's no really denying his role in the opioid crisis. I make it a policy not to celebrate deaths unless it's Hitler or something, but this guy won't be missed.


All I want to say is, I'm not affected by this death.
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CoraSpia wrote:
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No they wouldn't. There has been a legitimate demand for opioids, and legitimate suppliers, for more than a century. NO one company is necessary for there to be adequate supply.

But they didn't get doctors to give everyone more than they needed. Some people might be in slight pain because the drugs woar off; he made sure that didn't happen because there was always enough drug to go around.


There's an assumption there, that this man's company cut the price of Oxycontin.

You know what? I don't know if that's true or not. So I'm just going to leave it there, since unlike some people I don't talk out my arse.
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:48 am

CoraSpia wrote:
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No they wouldn't. There has been a legitimate demand for opioids, and legitimate suppliers, for more than a century. NO one company is necessary for there to be adequate supply.

But they didn't get doctors to give everyone more than they needed. Some people might be in slight pain because the drugs woar off; he made sure that didn't happen because there was always enough drug to go around.

They... did get doctors to prescribe much more than needed. Your statement is blatantly untrue. They also (Criminally) mischaracterised the product and (Criminally) tried to misrepresent how addictive it was. The Sackler fortune is built on a sea of blood and mountains of the dead from the opiate crisis in the US. As someone else said, if Hell existed he'd fit right in.


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CoraSpia wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
No they wouldn't. There has been a legitimate demand for opioids, and legitimate suppliers, for more than a century. NO one company is necessary for there to be adequate supply.

But they didn't get doctors to give everyone more than they needed. Some people might be in slight pain because the drugs woar off; he made sure that didn't happen because there was always enough drug to go around.


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CoraSpia wrote:lots more people would be in pain if it wasn't for him. He stopped that.

His company is known for pushing doctors to overprescribe OxyCotin thus contributing to the opioid crisis. Too much medicine is called poison.


Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Going a bit far, Negev Chan.

That kind of language is fine, for someone (not an NS member) who is alive, or someone long dead.

But you could be warned for gloating.

And personally I find it distasteful. I'm a bit old-fashioned that way.


As someone who lost a family member to opioids, I don't care if his ghost is offended or not. If he and his family (who were complicit) didn't want to have their deaths celebrated by millions, perhaps they should've thought about ahead of time.

I find his actions far more distasteful than the celebrating.
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How exactly did this all start; because couldn't find much on the subject?

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Grenartia wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:But they didn't get doctors to give everyone more than they needed. Some people might be in slight pain because the drugs woar off; he made sure that didn't happen because there was always enough drug to go around.


Nevertopia wrote:His company is known for pushing doctors to overprescribe OxyCotin thus contributing to the opioid crisis. Too much medicine is called poison.


Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Going a bit far, Negev Chan.

That kind of language is fine, for someone (not an NS member) who is alive, or someone long dead.

But you could be warned for gloating.

And personally I find it distasteful. I'm a bit old-fashioned that way.


As someone who lost a family member to opioids, I don't care if his ghost is offended or not. If he and his family (who were complicit) didn't want to have their deaths celebrated by millions, perhaps they should've thought about ahead of time.

I find his actions far more distasteful than the celebrating.

I meant that the other drug companies didn't get doctors to prescribe more than was needed. He did, making sure that there was always enough to go around.
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