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Postby Kargintina the Third » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:17 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/russia- ... -2036.html

Russians have overwhelmingly voted in favor of changes to the country's constitution that enable President Vladimir Putin to potentially stay in power up to 2036.

With all the votes counted, the electoral commission said Thursday morning that the final count showed 77.9% of those who voted were in favor of amendments to the constitution of Russia and 21.2% against, state news agency RIA Novosti reported. Data showed voter turnout was 65%, the commission said.

The constitutional amendments covered a raft of issues ranging from the minimum wage and pensions, to giving Putin the right to run for two more six-year terms in office. The 67-year old's current term ends in 2024.

The vote on constitutional amendments was billed as a referendum, but in reality the changes had already been passed by Russia's parliament and the public vote was seen as a move to legitimize the amendments. Putin has not yet explicitly stated that he will run for office again.

Critics of the Kremlin say the vote was neither transparent nor conducted according to usual electoral standards; ballot boxes were set in conventional polling stations but also on pavements, and in fields and parks.

Some voters — those in Moscow and the Nizhny Novgorod region — were able to vote online, and votes were cast from abroad too. A Russian cosmonaut even voted from space as he is stationed at the International Space Station. Controversially, incentives were also reportedly offered to voters, with reports of prizes being up for grabs.

Russia's electoral commission has rebuffed accusations of irregularities, however, saying on Twitter that it had received few complaints and had taken measures to prevent double voting, adding that voter lists would be checked and verified.

Opposition politician Alexei Navalny, who has heavily criticized the electoral procedure during the week-long vote, called it illegitimate. "We'll never recognize this result," Navalny told supporters in a video, Reuters reported. Navalny said on Twitter the opposition would focus its efforts on regional elections later this year in its efforts to defeat ruling party United Russia.

"The best reaction to what happened is not despair and anxiety, but the mobilization of thousands of observers this fall and the defeat of United Russia in the regional elections, where at least some procedure has remained," Navalny tweeted.

Putin gave a speech Tuesday, on the eve of the last day of voting, calling on Russians to vote, though he did not mention how the changes would amend rules to the presidential office that "reset the clock" on Putin's presidency.


Well this is certainly not good. I don’t think any leader should be in power that long. Russia is essentially a full on dictatorship at this point. However without Putin leaving office soon it brings up the question of what happens when he eventually passes away? Collapse? Civil War? And what effect will this vote have on Russia’s neighbors such as Ukraine who have been issues with Russia?
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:20 pm

Remember when he said he wasn't running for re-election in 2024?

Yeah, uh, about that...
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:22 pm

Atheris wrote:Remember when he said he wasn't running for re-election in 2024?

Yeah, uh, about that...

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Postby Britannia Maior » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:22 pm

It is rather disappointing that this has come to pass, but not necessarily unsurprising. Russian culture naturally leans towards strongman figures and Vladimir Putin has thus far managed to appeal to that. I would rather Russia return to political limbo and infighting, it’s much easier to push down then. Here’s hoping London grows a spine to deal with the Bear.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:23 pm

Atheris wrote:Remember when he said he wasn't running for re-election in 2024?

Yeah, uh, about that...


Technically correct. Like there will be an election in 2024.
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Postby Hrythingland » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:24 pm

Britannia Maior wrote:It is rather disappointing that this has come to pass, but not necessarily unsurprising. Russian culture naturally leans towards strongman figures and Vladimir Putin has thus far managed to appeal to that. I would rather Russia return to political limbo and infighting, it’s much easier to push down then. Here’s hoping London grows a spine to deal with the Bear.

London has about as much spine as a slug.
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:25 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Atheris wrote:Remember when he said he wasn't running for re-election in 2024?

Yeah, uh, about that...


Technically correct. Like there will be an election in 2024.

Well, there will be. The Russian Constitution's electoral dates weren't changed yesterday. It won't be free and fair, is what I think you were saying?
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:25 pm

Britannia Maior wrote:It is rather disappointing that this has come to pass, but not necessarily unsurprising. Russian culture naturally leans towards strongman figures and Vladimir Putin has thus far managed to appeal to that. I would rather Russia return to political limbo and infighting, it’s much easier to push down then. Here’s hoping London grows a spine to deal with the Bear.

What?
There's a reason Belorussians and Russians have turned 'Anglo' into a slur, the 'intervention' with Rasputin and Imperial politics helped in some regards. It be best if England stays a way before we have a worse outcome.
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Postby Britannia Maior » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:25 pm

Hrythingland wrote:
Britannia Maior wrote:It is rather disappointing that this has come to pass, but not necessarily unsurprising. Russian culture naturally leans towards strongman figures and Vladimir Putin has thus far managed to appeal to that. I would rather Russia return to political limbo and infighting, it’s much easier to push down then. Here’s hoping London grows a spine to deal with the Bear.

London has about as much spine as a slug.


Hence why I wish it would grow one rather than making funny hand signals or writing a constructively critical letter. Punitive action is required here.
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Postby South Acren » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:26 pm

Oh. Wonderful. Quickly internet, start making more memes about him! Hopefully they'll distract him enough to prevent a full on WW3!
Seriously, are we suprised? Putin wants power, he gets it. Its not like someone can go up against him. Remember all those defectors that died of unknown causes?
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Postby Britannia Maior » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:27 pm

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Britannia Maior wrote:It is rather disappointing that this has come to pass, but not necessarily unsurprising. Russian culture naturally leans towards strongman figures and Vladimir Putin has thus far managed to appeal to that. I would rather Russia return to political limbo and infighting, it’s much easier to push down then. Here’s hoping London grows a spine to deal with the Bear.

What?
There's a reason Belorussians and Russians have turned 'Anglo' into a slur, the 'intervention' with Rasputin and Imperial politics helped in some regards. It be best if England stays a way before we have a worse outcome.


The weaker Russia is the better it is for what I believe to be our national interests.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:27 pm

Can't see him holding on to power until he is 83 myself.
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Postby Neuer Deutsches Reich » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:27 pm

He can do what he wants i really don't care.




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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:28 pm

South Acren wrote:Oh. Wonderful. Quickly internet, start making more memes about him! Hopefully they'll distract him enough to prevent a full on WW3!
Seriously, are we suprised? Putin wants power, he gets it. Its not like someone can go up against him. Remember all those defectors that died of unknown causes?

The last man who attacked him lived a half-life.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:29 pm

Britannia Maior wrote:
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:What?
There's a reason Belorussians and Russians have turned 'Anglo' into a slur, the 'intervention' with Rasputin and Imperial politics helped in some regards. It be best if England stays a way before we have a worse outcome.


The weaker Russia is the better it is for what I believe to be our national interests.

True, if the Heartland theory holds up then it would only get worse with technological advancement. NATO hasn't done enough in Georgia and Ukraine, vital regions.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:29 pm

Atheris wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Technically correct. Like there will be an election in 2024.

Well, there will be. The Russian Constitution's electoral dates weren't changed yesterday. It won't be free and fair, is what I think you were saying?


I doubt this will be the last of moves to keep Putin in power. I'm sensing a "leader for life" referendum may come at some point.
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:29 pm

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Britannia Maior wrote:
The weaker Russia is the better it is for what I believe to be our national interests.

True, if the Heartland theory holds up then it would only get worse with technological advancement. NATO hasn't done enough in Georgia and Ukraine, vital regions.

"Heartland Theory"? I haven't heard that before.
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Postby Kargintina the Third » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:32 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Atheris wrote:Well, there will be. The Russian Constitution's electoral dates weren't changed yesterday. It won't be free and fair, is what I think you were saying?


I doubt this will be the last of moves to keep Putin in power. I'm sensing a "leader for life" referendum may come at some point.

Considering his age this basically is leader for life
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:33 pm

Atheris wrote:
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:True, if the Heartland theory holds up then it would only get worse with technological advancement. NATO hasn't done enough in Georgia and Ukraine, vital regions.

"Heartland Theory"? I haven't heard that before.

'The Geographical Pivot of History' by Mackinder, I haven't read it but I understand some of the premise. 1904.

'Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;
who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;
who rules the World-Island commands the world.'

Reason why the USSR or the Russian Empire never truly acquired it's potential from resources was a lot of underdevelopment in a vast array of areas.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:37 pm

Oh wow who.. who could have seen that coming.. ha.. ha based. ah
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