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[Draft] Standards on Military Identification Tags

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Standards on Military Identification Tags
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Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
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Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

APPLAUDING past efforts to equip soldiers with identification tags for the purpose of identifying deceased military combatants and issuing proper medical treatment to the unresponsive,

AWARE, however, that the previous resolution of this topic was inherently flawed,

KNOWING that such legislation is no longer enforced by the General Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that these flaws can be resolved with better legislation,

WISHING to issue military identification tags in a better manner and with greater regards to soldiers' civil rights,

ACKNOWLEDGING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants and issuing medical care to unresponsive combatants,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

WANTING to cooperate with military personnel and their families for the enhancement of their rights,

HEREBY,

1. DEFINES a military identification tag as any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased or unconscious body of a military combatant,

2. DEFINES a military combatant, for the purpose of this resolution, as a member of an armed force sanctioned under a national government, who engages in physical combat with another nation in an area of battle in accordance with current international law, (excluding espionage, which is the act of acquiring secret information through treasonous means,)

3. DEFINES field personnel, for the purpose of this resolution, as members of an armed force sanctioned under a national government whose operations include recovery of unconscious and deceased military combatants from an area of battle and issuing medical care to military combatants when necessary,

4. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full primary given name, and all other initials and suffixes, unless a full name is requested by the individual whom it identifies,
b) Military identification number,
c) Important hemal and/or medical information, which may include blood type,
d) Any other information deemed necessary by request of the individual whom the tag identifies,

5. MANDATES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

6. ALLOWS member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations, if said nation has a lack thereof, for the purpose of producing military identification tags,

7. ADVISES member nations against issuing military identification tags to illegal combatants with public funding,

8. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of active or salvaged military identification for malicious reasons (such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead),

9. PERMITS military personnel carrying military identification tags with sensitive information to discard the tags when in the risk of capture, for the reason of personal protection,

10. ALLOWS military personnel in possession of a personal military identification tag to decommission his or her tag at any point in time outside of an area of battle by requesting its decommissioning, either verbally or by writing, to a supervising official,

11. ALLOWS member nations to re-purpose the materials in military identification tags after they have been decommissioned by request of the individual whom they identify,

12. MANDATES that the immediate family members of fallen combatants have full legal rights to the possession of the recovered tag of the said individual, unless the individual has stated otherwise in a legal will.


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Standards on Military Identification Tags
Category: International Security || Strength: Mild



Proposing Nation: United Kingdom of Alba and Cymru
Alba and Cymru Department of Defense

Author: Aodhàn Paorach, General Assembly Ambassador
Co-sponsor: Ruairidh Tàillear, Secretary of Human Development
Co-sponsor: Dòmhnall MacDorsair, Commandant of the army of Alba and Cymru



The General Assembly,

APPLAUDING past efforts to equip soldiers with identification tags for the purpose of identifying deceased military combatants and issuing proper medical treatment to the unresponsive,

AWARE, however, that the previous resolution of this topic was inherently flawed,

KNOWING that such legislation is no longer enforced by the General Assembly,

FURTHER KNOWING that these flaws can be resolved with better legislation,

WISHING to issue military identification tags in a better manner and with greater regards to soldiers' civil rights,

ACKNOWLEDGING that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

WANTING to cooperate with military personnel and their families for the enhancement of their rights,

HEREBY,

1. DEFINES a military identification tag as any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased or unconscious body of a military combatant,

2. REQUIRES that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

a) Full first name, and middle and last initial, unless a full name is requested by the individual whom it identifies,
b) Military identification number,
c) Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

3. ALLOWS member nations to include any other information deemed necessary by request of the individual whom it identifies,

4. REQUIRES that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

5. ALLOWS member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations if said nation has a lack thereof.

6. ADVISES member nations against issuing military identification tags to illegal combatants with public funding,

7. PROHIBITS the intentional destruction or displacement of active or salvaged military identification for malicious reasons, such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead,

8. PERMITS military personnel carrying military identification tags with sensitive information to discard the tags when in the risk of capture, for the reason of personal protection,

9. ALLOWS member nations to re-purpose the materials in military identification tags after they have been decommissioned by request of the individual whom they identify,

10. MANDATES that the immediate family members of fallen combatants have full legal rights to the possession of the recovered tag of the said individual, unless the individual has stated otherwise in a legal will.

The General Assembly,

Aware that the whereabouts of many military personnel of various nations of the General Assembly remains unknown,

Appalled at the absence of medical treatment to recovered, yet unresponsive military personnel due to lack of identification,

Lamenting that many soldiers who are killed-in-action remain unidentified,

Wishing to reunite those who are killed-in-action with their loved ones for proper funeral services,

Knowing that military identification tags lend tremendous help in seeking missing-in-action or killed-in-action military combatants,

Acknowledging the significant role of military identification tags in the treatment of unconscious or unresponsive military personnel,

Noting that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

Hereby,

1. Defines a military identification tag as any durable item worn by military personnel for the purpose of identifying a deceased or unconscious body of a military combatant,

2. Requires that all members of the World Assembly issue military identification tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:

- Full legal name, including middle initial or name and suffix,
- Military identification number,
- Blood type, indicating blood type letter and Rh factor,

3. Allows member nations to include any other information deemed necessary,

4. Requires that all member nations issue each tag with a duplicate in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,

5. Allows member nations to provide the resources required to produce military identification tags to other member nations if said nation has a lack thereof.

6. Advises member nations from issuing military identification tags to unregistered combatants with public funding,

7. Prohibits the intentional destruction or displacement of active or salvaged military identification tags by any means,

8. Allows member nations to re-purpose the materials in military identification tags after they have been decommissioned.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:30 am

“This appears to have fixed all the issues present with the previous legislation. I’m not a huge fan of the new title, ‘resolution’ sounds awkward, but that isn’t a reason to oppose.”
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:34 am

Kenmoria wrote:“This appears to have fixed all the issues present with the previous legislation. I’m not a huge fan of the new title, ‘resolution’ sounds awkward, but that isn’t a reason to oppose.”


"I was told that reusing 'Military Identification Tag Act' as a title wouldn't be illegal, but it would be entirely un-creative. Adding 'resolution' at the end isn't very original either, so we may rename this bill if we can come up with a better title."
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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:59 am

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:“This appears to have fixed all the issues present with the previous legislation. I’m not a huge fan of the new title, ‘resolution’ sounds awkward, but that isn’t a reason to oppose.”


"I was told that reusing 'Military Identification Tag Act' as a title wouldn't be illegal, but it would be entirely un-creative. Adding 'resolution' at the end isn't very original either, so we may rename this bill if we can come up with a better title."

“Combatant Identification Act”

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:01 am

Omit "Act".

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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:17 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Omit "Act".

“Identification of [Military?] Combatants”

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Postby Comfed » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:26 am

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:“This appears to have fixed all the issues present with the previous legislation. I’m not a huge fan of the new title, ‘resolution’ sounds awkward, but that isn’t a reason to oppose.”


"I was told that reusing 'Military Identification Tag Act' as a title wouldn't be illegal, but it would be entirely un-creative. Adding 'resolution' at the end isn't very original either, so we may rename this bill if we can come up with a better title."

How about “Standards on Military Identification Tags”?
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:31 am

Somewhat tired Assistant Bianca Venkman: If that dude from New Waldensia can write Freedom To Seek Medical Care II - which is essentially Freedom To Seek Medical Care with a couple of differences - then you can write Military Identification Tag Act II, which is essentially the ID Tag Act with a handful of differences.

Please consider the below... retooling, not a rewrite and please do not credit Tinhampton in your text if you choose to do this thing, etcetera:
The General Assembly,

RECALLING that this august body has previously legislated to require member nations to supply their combatants with identification tags - especially in helping to issue proper medical treatment to the unresponsive, and to identify deceased and missing-in-action soldiers,

RECOGNISING, however, that this resolution was fundamentally flawed, has since been repealed, and should be replaced by more effective legislation that achieves the same ends yet is more respectful of combatants' civil rights,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY:
  1. DEFINES a military identification tag (henceforth an "ID tag") as a durable item worn by any member of military personnel for the purpose of identifying their deceased or unconscious body,
  2. REQUIRES all member nations to issue ID tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:
    1. full first name, and middle and last initial (unless a full name is requested by the individual whom it identifies),
    2. military identification number,
    3. blood type (including blood type letter and Rh factor), and
    4. any other information deemed necessary, by request of the individual whom it identifies,
  3. MANDATES that member nations issue each ID tag with a duplicate, in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,
  4. PERMITS member nations to provide the resources needed to produce ID tags to any other nation, if that nation has a lack of such resources, for the purpose of producing ID tags,
  5. ADVISES against members issuing ID tags to illegal combatants with public funding,
  6. FORBIDS the deliberate destruction or displacement of active or salvaged ID tags for malicious reasons (such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead); save that, for reasons of personal protection, military personnel carrying ID tags containing sensitive information may discard those ID tags when at risk of capture,
  7. ALLOWS member nations to repurpose the materials in ID tags after they have been decommissioned, by request of the individual whom they identify,
  8. DECLARES that the immediate family of each deceased combatant shall have full rights to the possession of that combatant's ID tag, unless that combatant has indicated otherwise in a legal will.
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Postby Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:55 am

This proposal seems to still apply to military intelligence personnel, which is a problem.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:37 am

Comfed wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:
"I was told that reusing 'Military Identification Tag Act' as a title wouldn't be illegal, but it would be entirely un-creative. Adding 'resolution' at the end isn't very original either, so we may rename this bill if we can come up with a better title."

How about “Standards on Military Identification Tags”?
Otherwise, support!


This is a good title!

Tinhampton wrote:Somewhat tired Assistant Bianca Venkman: If that dude from New Waldensia can write Freedom To Seek Medical Care II - which is essentially Freedom To Seek Medical Care with a couple of differences - then you can write Military Identification Tag Act II, which is essentially the ID Tag Act with a handful of differences.

Please consider the below... retooling, not a rewrite and please do not credit Tinhampton in your text if you choose to do this thing, etcetera:
The General Assembly,

RECALLING that this august body has previously legislated to require member nations to supply their combatants with identification tags - especially in helping to issue proper medical treatment to the unresponsive, and to identify deceased and missing-in-action soldiers,

RECOGNISING, however, that this resolution was fundamentally flawed, has since been repealed, and should be replaced by more effective legislation that achieves the same ends yet is more respectful of combatants' civil rights,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY:
  1. DEFINES a military identification tag (henceforth an "ID tag") as a durable item worn by any member of military personnel for the purpose of identifying their deceased or unconscious body,
  2. REQUIRES all member nations to issue ID tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:
    1. full first name, and middle and last initial (unless a full name is requested by the individual whom it identifies),
    2. military identification number,
    3. blood type (including blood type letter and Rh factor), and
    4. any other information deemed necessary, by request of the individual whom it identifies,
  3. MANDATES that member nations issue each ID tag with a duplicate, in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,
  4. PERMITS member nations to provide the resources needed to produce ID tags to any other nation, if that nation has a lack of such resources, for the purpose of producing ID tags,
  5. ADVISES against members issuing ID tags to illegal combatants with public funding,
  6. FORBIDS the deliberate destruction or displacement of active or salvaged ID tags for malicious reasons (such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead); save that, for reasons of personal protection, military personnel carrying ID tags containing sensitive information may discard those ID tags when at risk of capture,
  7. ALLOWS member nations to repurpose the materials in ID tags after they have been decommissioned, by request of the individual whom they identify,
  8. DECLARES that the immediate family of each deceased combatant shall have full rights to the possession of that combatant's ID tag, unless that combatant has indicated otherwise in a legal will.


This is quite a good write-up of this bill. I'll definitely make adjustments based on what you've written. Many thanks!

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Wouldn't they be excused under clause 6?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:46 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Somewhat tired Assistant Bianca Venkman: If that dude from New Waldensia can write Freedom To Seek Medical Care II - which is essentially Freedom To Seek Medical Care with a couple of differences - then you can write Military Identification Tag Act II, which is essentially the ID Tag Act with a handful of differences.

Please consider the below... retooling, not a rewrite and please do not credit Tinhampton in your text if you choose to do this thing, etcetera:
The General Assembly,

RECALLING that this august body has previously legislated to require member nations to supply their combatants with identification tags - especially in helping to issue proper medical treatment to the unresponsive, and to identify deceased and missing-in-action soldiers,

RECOGNISING, however, that this resolution was fundamentally flawed, has since been repealed, and should be replaced by more effective legislation that achieves the same ends yet is more respectful of combatants' civil rights,

NOTING that the bodies of deceased military personnel must be correctly identified in order to inform loved ones of loss, conduct funerals, as well as properly bury or cremate deceased combatants based on the wishes of the deceased,

HEREBY:
  1. DEFINES a military identification tag (henceforth an "ID tag") as a durable item worn by any member of military personnel for the purpose of identifying their deceased or unconscious body,
  2. REQUIRES all member nations to issue ID tags to all registered military combatants and field personnel with the following correct and legible identification categories:
    1. full first name, and middle and last initial (unless a full name is requested by the individual whom it identifies),
    2. military identification number,
    3. blood type (including blood type letter and Rh factor), and
    4. any other information deemed necessary, by request of the individual whom it identifies,
  3. MANDATES that member nations issue each ID tag with a duplicate, in order to identify the bodies of deceased combatants for initial identification and later recovery,
  4. PERMITS member nations to provide the resources needed to produce ID tags to any other nation, if that nation has a lack of such resources, for the purpose of producing ID tags,
  5. ADVISES against members issuing ID tags to illegal combatants with public funding,
  6. FORBIDS the deliberate destruction or displacement of active or salvaged ID tags for malicious reasons (such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead); save that, for reasons of personal protection, military personnel carrying ID tags containing sensitive information may discard those ID tags when at risk of capture,
  7. ALLOWS member nations to repurpose the materials in ID tags after they have been decommissioned, by request of the individual whom they identify,
  8. DECLARES that the immediate family of each deceased combatant shall have full rights to the possession of that combatant's ID tag, unless that combatant has indicated otherwise in a legal will.

Or just use the old title, like in protection of biomedical research
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:51 am

OOC: So how exactly is this better?

The micromanagement is even more appalling and RL-focused.

Blood type LETTER AND Rh FACTOR? For fuck's sake, don't even need much of an alternative Earth for the rhesus factor to not be called the rhesus factor because the monkeys were never named rhesus monkeys! And completely ignoring non-RL-human people in RP who might not HAVE blood types (see RL birds), or even who have several different factors that are important. Or whose civilization, heavens forbid, went for numbers instead of letters. (Even in RL the O type is actually zero, not the letter O, because it signals the lack of that particular marker.)

The name is another case. First name, middle and last initials, unless full name requested by the person??? Like what the fuck of good is that meant to do if the point of the tags is identification of a particular individual??? Even in RL in my understanding the tags have some kind of number that is unique to that given soldier? And putting LAST name in full, initialing the rest would make more sense if you are trying to identify someone for bookkeeping. Oh and I know this may be beyond your powers of imagination, but even in RL people can have more than a first name, a middle name and a last name! In Spanish culture you ALWAYS have two last names. In Finnish culture it pretty much is rarer to have one middle name than two (and they just changed the law to allow you to have three, though unless they also change the forms, I feel sorry for any kid trying to fit their full name in any kind of official form), and even in RL there still are people with a single name only.

Like seriously, dial waaaaay back on the micromanagement bits, and instead focus on the reason that you want details included. Like why not just leave it at "a way to identify a particular soldier, such as an individualized number", and rather than require medical info to go on the same tag, just require that important medical info is somehow also carried with them? Leave it up to nations to decide exactly how.

Still no method of decommissioning the tags, and no explanation of what counts as active tag.

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Postby Bananaistan » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:12 am

OOC: The assumption that all people have exactly three names is cultural imperialism and is offensive.

+ 1 on everything else Ara just said there as well.

Also, may I ask what's so great about these dog tags? The whole thing seems to miss an obvious flaw that something that people wear around their necks is so easily removed.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:09 am

Bananaistan wrote:OOC: Also, may I ask what's so great about these dog tags? The whole thing seems to miss an obvious flaw that something that people wear around their necks is so easily removed.

OOC: Yeah, subcutaneous microchips or tattooed numbers/barcodes would be much harder for the enemy to steal.
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Postby Picairn » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:21 am

Based on what Araraukar said, I might suggest that you drop the three names clause and just leave it at "stating full name", and drop the blood type as well because animals, plants and aliens in this world don't share the same blood types and Rh factors with us humans. Hell, they may have no blood type at all. Replace the blood type with, I don't know, a barcode or a set of individual numbers? Leave the identification numbering to the respective states.
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Postby Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:31 am

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:This proposal seems to still apply to military intelligence personnel, which is a problem.

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Wouldn't they be excused under clause 6?

Ambassador, the military intelligence personnel of the Saint George Military Intelligence Agency (SGMIA) are certainly not "illegal combatants" and the Holy Empire does not appreciate such allegations.

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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:58 am

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Alba and Cymru wrote:
Wouldn't they be excused under clause 6?

Ambassador, the military intelligence personnel of the Saint George Military Intelligence Agency (SGMIA) are certainly not "illegal combatants" and the Holy Empire does not appreciate such allegations.

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“I believe the ambassador from Alba and Cymru meant clause 8 rather than clause 6.”
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Postby Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:04 am

Kenmoria wrote:
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:Ambassador, the military intelligence personnel of the Saint George Military Intelligence Agency (SGMIA) are certainly not "illegal combatants" and the Holy Empire does not appreciate such allegations.

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“I believe the ambassador from Alba and Cymru meant clause 8 rather than clause 6.”

That would not be sufficient in my opinion. If we accept that military intelligence personnel is in constant dangers of capture, and thus can dispose of the tag the moment their mission starts, than the same could apply to any combatant that is about to start a mission. Otherwise, we want our personnel not to have to wear the tag at any moment in their mission.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:51 pm

Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:
Wouldn't they be excused under clause 6?

Ambassador, the military intelligence personnel of the Saint George Military Intelligence Agency (SGMIA) are certainly not "illegal combatants" and the Holy Empire does not appreciate such allegations.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:19 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:OOC: Also, may I ask what's so great about these dog tags? The whole thing seems to miss an obvious flaw that something that people wear around their necks is so easily removed.

OOC: Yeah, subcutaneous microchips or tattooed numbers/barcodes would be much harder for the enemy to steal.


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OOC: Think of two future-tech hominid societies which used ID chips for soldiers. If a soldier is captured, I'm sure the enemy could decrypt whatever was in that microchip with proper information on how to from espionage. I'm not going to issue any legislation into this bill regarding ID chips because blending them into this resolution would create the same problem.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:43 pm

Sorry for the triple-post, but draft 2 has been uploaded. Here's some things we did:

- Changed FURTHER KNOWING to RECOGNIZING in the preamble
- Merged ACKNOWLEDGING and FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING into a single clause in the preamble
- Now defines a military combatant and field personnel in Clauses 2 and 3, respectively
- 4a. now encompasses all numeral systems, replacing "first name" with "primary given name", and replacing "middle and last initial" with "all other initials and prefixes"
- 4c. now includes important medical information that can apply to combatants who are not homo sapiens
- Clause 6, which allows nations to provide materials for tags, is now more specific
- Put parentheses around "such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead"
- Added Clause 10, which gives the framework of how to decommission an identification tag

We now sit at 12 clauses.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:50 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Sorry for the triple-post, but draft 2 has been uploaded. Here's some things we did:

- Changed FURTHER KNOWING to RECOGNIZING in the preamble
- Merged ACKNOWLEDGING and FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING into a single clause in the preamble
- Now defines a military combatant and field personnel in Clauses 2 and 3, respectively
- 4a. now encompasses all numeral systems, replacing "first name" with "primary given name", and replacing "middle and last initial" with "all other initials and prefixes"
- 4c. now includes important medical information that can apply to combatants who are not homo sapiens
- Clause 6, which allows nations to provide materials for tags, is now more specific
- Put parentheses around "such as to conceal a combatant's death or to humiliate the dead"
- Added Clause 10, which gives the framework of how to decommission an identification tag

We now sit at 12 clauses.

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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:46 pm

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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:39 am

“I don’t see why you define ‘military combatant’ and ‘field personnel’ separately only to use them together in clause 4. Surely it would make more sense to define ‘military personnel’ instead, as encompassing both of them?”
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Postby Flying Eagles » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:31 pm

You may desire to change Clause 10 so that tags must be decommissioned in writing, otherwise, it's ripe for abuse. The enemy could destroy a killed soldier's tag, and claim that the solider requested it be decommissioned verbally. However, if the enemy can capture or kill the supervising officer as well, there would be no one to ask if that soldier actually desired that tag to be decommissioned, and the enemy would be off the hook as there would be no paper trail proving this was not done under the soldier's request.

Also, in Clause 2, the comma should be after the bracket, not before.
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