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Minskiev
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Postby Minskiev » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:01 am

Sarderia, you have to realize that alternate history has alternate consequences. If Germany wins WW1, they won’t go fascist. Syndicalist? Possibly. But it’s France who will go fascist, and Russia might go white.
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Bosnia Herzegovina and Sandzak
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Founded: May 09, 2020
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Postby Bosnia Herzegovina and Sandzak » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:11 pm

I edited the app and provided a map showing a partitioned Bosnia to clarify my place on the rp map, assuming that this is acceptable everuthing seems to be in order.
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Religion: Islam
Politics: Revolutionary Socialism
Economics: Marxism
Alignment: Neutral Good

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HypErcApitAl
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Founded: Feb 16, 2020
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:16 pm

So many Asian players; not enough European players.

Gonna post in the IC soon, since usually first posts aren't reacting to others but merely exposition. I just wanted to react to the US or France or some larger power, but that'll be alright too.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:18 pm

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:FYI, the Dutch are a Japanese ally


We would be too, since I would assume that you acquired the Kiau Chau territory in the Opium War. I got Guangdong and HK from the Opium War. I would probably be in charge of defending the rest of the cities from any invasions given how close I am to Kiau Chau. Which means that we would be very diplomatically close.


I guess? I'm not really concerned about the Phillippines or Asiatic powers, I just wanted something that revolved around Euramerica (or what I'd be rping)

That idea's not farfetched, it's just more-so my personal mindset and what I feel best rping.
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Sarderia
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Postby Sarderia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:22 pm

Hypercapital wrote:So many Asian players; not enough European players.

Gonna post in the IC soon, since usually first posts aren't reacting to others but merely exposition. I just wanted to react to the US or France or some larger power, but that'll be alright too.

I don't have anything much to post as the US, only the 2020 primary. A Candace Owens-type character is running as GOP VP alongside a Libertarian candidate. On the Dem side is Bernie Sanders.
Minskiev wrote:Sarderia, you have to realize that alternate history has alternate consequences. If Germany wins WW1, they won’t go fascist. Syndicalist? Possibly. But it’s France who will go fascist, and Russia might go white.

The US enters WW1.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:13 pm

Sarderia wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:So many Asian players; not enough European players.

Gonna post in the IC soon, since usually first posts aren't reacting to others but merely exposition. I just wanted to react to the US or France or some larger power, but that'll be alright too.

I don't have anything much to post as the US, only the 2020 primary. A Candace Owens-type character is running as GOP VP alongside a Libertarian candidate. On the Dem side is Bernie Sanders.
Minskiev wrote:Sarderia, you have to realize that alternate history has alternate consequences. If Germany wins WW1, they won’t go fascist. Syndicalist? Possibly. But it’s France who will go fascist, and Russia might go white.

The US enters WW1.


Interesting.

Dutch would want the Owens or Lib type; essentially being Never-Sanderists since Sanders would kcuf up the economy.
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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm

Bosnia Herzegovina and Sandzak wrote:NS Nation: Bosnia Herzegovina and Sandzak
RP Nation: Bosnia-Herzegovina
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Sarajevo
Leader: Hassan Ceric
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Socialist Federal Parliamentary Republic
Population: 260 Mill.
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 50,000 Regulars. 20,000 Reserves
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Western Balkans, Southeastern Europe

(Image)

The area labelled Federation of Bosnia-Herzegovina seeing as Srpska is under Serbia-Macebonia

Brief History: in 1992 Bosnia declare its independence suceeding from Yugoslavia and proclaiming a Republic via Sarajevo, from 1992-94 the war of independence against Serb Aggression, Protectorate from 1996 to 2004, Independent Federal Republic from 2004 to 2017, National Workers Uprising 2017, Socialist Republic 2017-


Accepted, just edit population please.
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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:28 am

Posted something on the IC thread, hopefully another Southeast Asian nation signs up.
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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:44 am

Hey Hyper, are you going to send a communique or something to us?
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Almadaria
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Postby Almadaria » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:40 am

If this doesn't get moving I'll infringe on the borders of American Panama

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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:00 am

Almadaria wrote:If this doesn't get moving I'll infringe on the borders of American Panama


It’s advisable that you contact the American player first before you make a move.
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Nuverikstan
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Postby Nuverikstan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:06 pm

I may apply as an Indonesian State (or, what’s left of it). It’ll be Dutch minority led, if that’s alright.
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Nuverikstan
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Postby Nuverikstan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:52 pm

App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

This was a mistake, when in 1920 the state of Sulawesi broke away from Indonesia. This rebellion was supported by Pilipinas and Malaya, who eventually inherited control of the territory. The war was short (merely 8 months), but was a major hit to Indonesian pride, as well as Pilipinas and Malaya relations. To this day, there are border disputes over the Wakatobi Islands, as well as Buton Island, with Indonesian soldiers having been stationed on Buton for 25 years (although it is internationally recognized as Pilipinas and Malaya territory).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Republic (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.
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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:38 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

This was a mistake, when in 1920 the state of Sulawesi broke away from Indonesia. This rebellion was supported by Pilipinas and Malaya, who eventually inherited control of the territory. The war was short (merely 8 months), but was a major hit to Indonesian pride, as well as Pilipinas and Malaya relations. To this day, there are border disputes over the Wakatobi Islands, as well as Buton Island, with Indonesian soldiers having been stationed on Buton for 25 years (although it is internationally recognized as Pilipinas and Malaya territory).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Republic (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.


I just have a few small issues with your history, since you linked it specifically with mine. I can accept the alterations to the territory of my Indonesia canon, but I don’t want relations to be frosty between us. In my canon, Indonesia becomes communist sometime around late 1930s to early 1940s, Sulawesi remains as last democratic stronghold and joins us peacefully, without any funding or support from us.
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Nuverikstan
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Postby Nuverikstan » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:07 pm

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

This was a mistake, when in 1920 the state of Sulawesi broke away from Indonesia. This rebellion was supported by Pilipinas and Malaya, who eventually inherited control of the territory. The war was short (merely 8 months), but was a major hit to Indonesian pride, as well as Pilipinas and Malaya relations. To this day, there are border disputes over the Wakatobi Islands, as well as Buton Island, with Indonesian soldiers having been stationed on Buton for 25 years (although it is internationally recognized as Pilipinas and Malaya territory).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Republic (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.


I just have a few small issues with your history, since you linked it specifically with mine. I can accept the alterations to the territory of my Indonesia canon, but I don’t want relations to be frosty between us. In my canon, Indonesia becomes communist sometime around late 1930s to early 1940s, Sulawesi remains as last democratic stronghold and joins us peacefully, without any funding or support from us.


Hmm, alright. I thought frosty relations would make it interesting, but if you’d rather it not be that way that’s fine. I’ll change it up. How about the state of Sulawesi opted out of the Velvet Revolution of 1936, and the state of Indonesia let it go, eventually joining you? We can keep the border dispute over the Wakatobi islands as a more of a playful argument. Kind of like the US/Canada dispute over the island with the lighthouse on it.
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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:06 am

Nuverikstan wrote:
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
I just have a few small issues with your history, since you linked it specifically with mine. I can accept the alterations to the territory of my Indonesia canon, but I don’t want relations to be frosty between us. In my canon, Indonesia becomes communist sometime around late 1930s to early 1940s, Sulawesi remains as last democratic stronghold and joins us peacefully, without any funding or support from us.


Hmm, alright. I thought frosty relations would make it interesting, but if you’d rather it not be that way that’s fine. I’ll change it up. How about the state of Sulawesi opted out of the Velvet Revolution of 1936, and the state of Indonesia let it go, eventually joining you? We can keep the border dispute over the Wakatobi islands as a more of a playful argument. Kind of like the US/Canada dispute over the island with the lighthouse on it.


Yeah, I can go along with that.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Nuverikstan » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:21 am

Nuverikstan wrote:App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Republic (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

During the Velvet Revolution, each state was given the option to remain a part of Indonesia or leave. Sulawesi, being a fairly democratic state, opted to leave Indonesia. Makassar became the capital of the short lived, Republic of Sualwesi. This country existed for 3 years, before finally joining Pilipinas and Malaya. During it's time independent, Sulawesi and Indonesia had a dispute over the Wakatobi Islands and who administered them, Indonesia claiming it's a part of the State of the Sunda Islands, while Sulawesi claiming it's a part of South East Sulawesi. This dispute was eventually transferred to Pilipinas and Malaya once they annexed the territory. However, it doesn't cause much strife today, and both nations have promised to sort this out, eventually.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.


How does this sound?
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:32 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Republic (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

During the Velvet Revolution, each state was given the option to remain a part of Indonesia or leave. Sulawesi, being a fairly democratic state, opted to leave Indonesia. Makassar became the capital of the short lived, Republic of Sualwesi. This country existed for 3 years, before finally joining Pilipinas and Malaya. During it's time independent, Sulawesi and Indonesia had a dispute over the Wakatobi Islands and who administered them, Indonesia claiming it's a part of the State of the Sunda Islands, while Sulawesi claiming it's a part of South East Sulawesi. This dispute was eventually transferred to Pilipinas and Malaya once they annexed the territory. However, it doesn't cause much strife today, and both nations have promised to sort this out, eventually.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.


How does this sound?


Yep. Accepted. All ASEAN members are invited to a series of economic conventions to bolster trade between our countries and increase foreign investments, as discussed in the IC thread. You are welcome as well, since ASEAN is still comprised of basically the same members.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:55 pm

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Hey Hyper, are you going to send a communique or something to us?


Yeah.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:56 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Republic (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

During the Velvet Revolution, each state was given the option to remain a part of Indonesia or leave. Sulawesi, being a fairly democratic state, opted to leave Indonesia. Makassar became the capital of the short lived, Republic of Sualwesi. This country existed for 3 years, before finally joining Pilipinas and Malaya. During it's time independent, Sulawesi and Indonesia had a dispute over the Wakatobi Islands and who administered them, Indonesia claiming it's a part of the State of the Sunda Islands, while Sulawesi claiming it's a part of South East Sulawesi. This dispute was eventually transferred to Pilipinas and Malaya once they annexed the territory. However, it doesn't cause much strife today, and both nations have promised to sort this out, eventually.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.


How does this sound?


Cool, but I'm the Dutch, and I'm not 'the Dutch Republic,' I'm the Dutch Confederacy/Holland.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:07 am

I don't have any problems w/ retroactively gaining colonies, lmao, but I had all IRL Dutch Empire land plus some new stuff, though the Indonesia dude did get that right that I focused on Asia, but Patagonia was a success though.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:13 am

HypErcApitAl wrote:I don't have any problems w/ retroactively gaining colonies, lmao, but I had all IRL Dutch Empire land plus some new stuff, though the Indonesia dude did get that right that I focused on Asia, but Patagonia was a success though.


*sigh* Ok, one more change to the app! Man, I need to make sure I read all the relevant apps more carefully next time, lol.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:14 am

Nuverikstan wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:App;

NS Nation: Nuverikstan
RP Nation: Federated Socialist States of Indonesia
Real or Fictional: Fictional

Capital: Nieuw Zwolle (Port Moresby irl)
Leader: Lars Meijer
Leader Title: President
Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation
Population: 270,000,000
Manpower (Note; Manpower must not exceed 10% of population, and if it goes above 7%, it will be severely underfunded as will your other needs): 3,000,000 active; 6,000,000 reserve
Nuclear Weapons (Y or N; Note that only nations with population exceeding 50m and full 10% of population enlisted can have nukes): N
Location: Remaining Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, Solomon Islands, Nauru, Palau
Brief History:

The Dutch Empire was an imposing force on the East Indies and surrounding islands. Forgoing their attempt at a North American colonial empire, they focus their efforts on the East. Instead of merely ruling Indonesia, the Dutch expand as far as Papua New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Ship loads of colonists are sent in, not only to maintain power in the region, but to tip the demographic balance as well.

This was a decent enough plan, until the Dutch government began neglecting and abusing their own people, leading the Dutch minority to rise up against the colonial government. The Dutch Indonesian rebellion took place in conjunction with the Pilipinas and Malaya rebellion. Both sides assisted each other against each’s respective colonial government. For the remainder of the 19th century and part of the 20th, Pilipinas and Malaya was Indonesia’s closest ally. In the end, the rebels wrestled control of all Dutch colonies previously mentioned, moving the capital from Djakarta to the predominantly Dutch city of Nieuw Zwolle on New Guinea. Initially, the seat of government was centered in Djakarta to better exert control over the native Indonesian parts of the colony. After the revolution, it was moved closer to the Dutch East (New Guinea, as well as the Solomon Islands, had far more Dutchmen than Sumatra, Java, or Borneo).

During the Great War, Indonesia occupied the islands of Nauru and Palau (these were under German control). Indonesia had become a powerhouse in the region and had purchased warships from the Dutch Confederacy (who are now Indonesia’s closes friends). These warships allowed them to win multiple naval battles against the Germans, taking these two small islands.

For the entirety of Indonesia’s existence, it had been Dutch minority ran. In the beginning, they adopted a similar constitution to the US constitution which, in addition to many other attributes, only allowed land owners to vote. Some Indonesian natives were legal landowners, but the vast majority weren’t. This system continued until 1936 when a new constitution was adopted. A federation was established, with Nieuw Zwolle as a capital territory. Each of these states were led by a Premier, while a president was elected by the state congressmen, and a Prime Minister chosen by the President. This system led to greater unity between the regions, as well as greater unity between Indonesia’s people.

During the Velvet Revolution, each state was given the option to remain a part of Indonesia or leave. Sulawesi, being a fairly democratic state, opted to leave Indonesia. Makassar became the capital of the short lived, Republic of Sualwesi. This country existed for 3 years, before finally joining Pilipinas and Malaya. During it's time independent, Sulawesi and Indonesia had a dispute over the Wakatobi Islands and who administered them, Indonesia claiming it's a part of the State of the Sunda Islands, while Sulawesi claiming it's a part of South East Sulawesi. This dispute was eventually transferred to Pilipinas and Malaya once they annexed the territory. However, it doesn't cause much strife today, and both nations have promised to sort this out, eventually.

One of the events that prompted the constitutional reforms was Indonesia increasing ties with the Soviet Union. They were sympathetic to their Communist ideals, but had no intent to go through a violent revolution. Rather, the Dutch minority and Indonesian majority came together in a peaceful revolution to give more power to the people. Land ownership requirements were abolished and most industries were either federalized or repossessed by the individual states.

Since the 1936 Velvet Revolution, Indonesia has been relatively peaceful. A handful of terrorist attacks here and there, leading to Indonesian intervention in Pakistan. Besides this, however, no major internal conflicts. During the Cold War, Indonesia flipped sides at the inception of the European Union. This was at the behest of the Dutch Helm at the time. With Western Europe becoming Indonesia’s new dominant trading partner, the economy boomed! Tons of money began flowing into the state and federal businesses, money that could’ve never come from the Soviet Union. This led Indonesia, specifically Java and Papua, to become very rich.

Post Cold War and into the 21st century, Indonesia has remained a very close ally of Europe. Dutch Indonesians now number about 20% of the population, with both Protestantism and atheism/agnosticism rising since independence. Indonesia does maintain good relations with the current owner of Mecca, however. This is because just under 50% of Indonesia remains Muslim, and is still the #1 nationality represented on the Hajj.


How does this sound?


I did say forgoing a, "North American," colonial empire, so it's not untrue.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:33 am

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:
How does this sound?


Yep. Accepted. All ASEAN members are invited to a series of economic conventions to bolster trade between our countries and increase foreign investments, as discussed in the IC thread. You are welcome as well, since ASEAN is still comprised of basically the same members.

I did some preliminary research into ASEAN (aka, I read part of a wikipedia article). It's very funny that one of their irl goals was containing Communism, while in our game two of its biggest nations are socialist, lol. Either way, I'll definitely involve myself in ASEAN. But where is the secretariat? Is it in Singapura, Nieuw Zwolle, Saigon City, somewhere else?
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