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Postby Dollystana » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:53 am

Liberate SECFanatics
OBSERVING that SECFanatics was one of the largest connectors of regions,
HORRIFIED that The Black Hawks raided and password-protected SECFanatics, closing all its embassies,
THANKFUL that they were allowed to continue in the regions SECFanatics Reborn and SEC Fanatics,
REALIZING that The Black Hawks used said region to gain further influence in the Security Council, DISGUSTED that SECFanatics’ flag contains a Black Hawk deflating a basketball,
FURTHER NOTICING that SECfanatics’ founder, RBBF, unfortunately ceased to exist,
RECOGNIZING that this behavior might be allowed to continue, in such regions as The Embassy,
APPALLED that The Black Hawks banjected many nations from said region,
HEREBY liberates SECFanatics.

Tell me if this is legal or not, this is not just to become an ultra-rare card ok? I need your honest feedback.
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Postby Drexlore » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:14 am

DISGUSTED that SECFanatics’ flag contains a Black Hawk deflating a football,


It's a basketball.

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Postby Dollystana » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:16 am

Drexlore wrote:
DISGUSTED that SECFanatics’ flag contains a Black Hawk deflating a football,


It's a basketball.

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Postby Aurum Raider » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:21 am

Dollystana wrote:HORRIFIED that The Black Hawks raided and password-protected SECFanatics, closing all its embassies,

I actually wasn't aware TBH still had puppets and ROs in SECFanatics. Didn't the RRA clean the place up after the first raid? What happened?
That aside

Dollystana wrote:THANKFUL that they were allowed to continue in the regions SECFanatics Reborn and SEC Fanatics,

The natives have moved on... speaking of, have you consulted them for this liberation?

Dollystana wrote:RECOGNIZING that this behavior might be allowed to continue, in such regions as The Embassy,

The embassy has a password, and unless they do something especially egregious a lib will never pass.
Raiders can build as much influence as they like, the native/defender-aligned WASC will never let them pass an offensive liberation.

What exactly will this liberation accomplish for a region the natives have already moved on from?
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Postby Dollystana » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:24 am

Aurum Raider wrote:
Dollystana wrote:HORRIFIED that The Black Hawks raided and password-protected SECFanatics, closing all its embassies,

I actually wasn't aware TBH still had puppets and ROs in SECFanatics. Didn't the RRA clean the place up after the first raid? What happened?
That aside

Dollystana wrote:THANKFUL that they were allowed to continue in the regions SECFanatics Reborn and SEC Fanatics,

The natives have moved on... speaking of, have you consulted them for this liberation?

Dollystana wrote:RECOGNIZING that this behavior might be allowed to continue, in such regions as The Embassy,

The embassy has a password, and unless they do something especially egregious a lib will never pass.
Raiders can build as much influence as they like, the native/defender-aligned WASC will never let them pass an offensive liberation.

What exactly will this liberation accomplish for a region the natives have already moved on from?

For an ultra ra influence.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:25 am

I never thought I would make a flag so bad it would drive someone to include it in a liberation draft :blush:
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Postby Vedan 11 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:27 am

Wait RBBF died? I thought the mods deleted his nation for something.

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Postby United England n Wales » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:32 am

Refuge Isle wrote:I never thought I would make a flag so bad it would drive someone to include it in a condemnation draft :blush:

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Dollystana wrote:
Liberate SECFanatics
OBSERVING that SECFanatics was one of the largest connectors of regions,
HORRIFIED that The Black Hawks raided and password-protected SECFanatics, closing all its embassies,
THANKFUL that they were allowed to continue in the regions SECFanatics Reborn and SEC Fanatics,
REALIZING that The Black Hawks used said region to gain further influence in the Security Council, DISGUSTED that SECFanatics’ flag contains a Black Hawk deflating a basketball,
FURTHER NOTICING that SECfanatics’ founder, RBBF, unfortunately passed away,
RECOGNIZING that this behavior might be allowed to continue, in such regions as The Embassy,
HEREBY liberates SECFanatics.

Tell me if this is legal or not, this is not just to become an ultra-rare card ok? I need your honest feedback.


Legal I think.

I suggest maybe adding that they banjected natives from the region.
Other then that, I like it and fully support it.
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Vedan 11 wrote:Wait RBBF died? I thought the mods deleted his nation for something.

Yes that is right, I cannot remember why they got deleted, other people will know why.
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:31 pm

The possibility of this, or another liberation for SecFanatics, passing is slim to none.

Aurum Raider wrote:
Dollystana wrote:HORRIFIED that The Black Hawks raided and password-protected SECFanatics, closing all its embassies,

I actually wasn't aware TBH still had puppets and ROs in SECFanatics. Didn't the RRA clean the place up after the first raid? What happened?

I can kind of answer this, I guess. Around June 15th I was up really late for update after getting up at 4am that morning for work (update is at midnight for me), and in my sleep deprived state I was thinking about those really weird Femdom people we've seen over the last few years on NS that started with Jadny. I'm sure you know the ones I speak of, those who like to put scary RP crap up about men being slaves and crap.

Anyways, I noticed that the Femdom region of Queendom of Goddess Messalina had a new founder. So I was curious as to why, and I looked the region up in NS history to see what happened to the previous founder. Quelle surprise, the old founder had been deleted by the moderators. I'm not sure why, but then I decided to see when exactly RBBF had been deleted by the moderators.

Turns out, both RBBF and the old founder of the Femdom region had been deleted roughly within a minute or two of each other. You can check that out yourself in the boneyard, but RBBF was founder of SecFanatics and Queendom of Goddess Messalina both. The old founder of Queendom of Goddess Messalina was General Alexander Haig.

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Postby Bormiar » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:42 pm

Sorry, but I think I need a better explanation of why this requires liberation. SEC Fanatics has their new region. The case of Jakker and the Embassy was just pressure and politics-- nothing to worry about.
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Postby Wrapper » Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:26 pm

Dollystana wrote:FURTHER NOTICING that SECfanatics’ founder, RBBF, unfortunately passed away,

Nations don't pass away. People pass away. Doubt this clause is legal.

That said, I have absolutely no sympathy for regions like SECFanatics that send unending streams of embassy requests, even after they've been sent rejection after rejection. RIP.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:06 pm

Bormiar wrote:Sorry, but I think I need a better explanation of why this requires liberation. SEC Fanatics has their new region. The case of Jakker and the Embassy was just pressure and politics-- nothing to worry about.

Don’t think a better explanation will be forthcoming somehow.

Wrapper wrote:
Dollystana wrote:FURTHER NOTICING that SECfanatics’ founder, RBBF, unfortunately passed away,

Nations don't pass away. People pass away. Doubt this clause is legal.

Agreed, sounds like an R4 illegality.

Personally I’m more than happy to see the Hawks retain control of SECFanatics - embassy collecting regions are a pain.
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Postby Team Leo » Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:52 pm

Personally I’m more than happy to see the Hawks retain control of SECFanatics - embassy collecting regions are a pain.

And so. How would you like it if YOUR region got raided then. :eyebrow:

Tbh that's a nice founderless region there BBD
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Postby Refuge Isle » Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:55 pm

Team Leo wrote:
Personally I’m more than happy to see the Hawks retain control of SECFanatics - embassy collecting regions are a pain.

And so. How would you like it if YOUR region got raided then. :eyebrow:

Brb, pulling 185 updaters

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Postby Team Leo » Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:57 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:
Team Leo wrote:And so. How would you like it if YOUR region got raided then. :eyebrow:

Brb, pulling 185 updaters

Alright but it's password protected

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:34 am

Team Leo wrote:
Personally I’m more than happy to see the Hawks retain control of SECFanatics - embassy collecting regions are a pain.

And so. How would you like it if YOUR region got raided then. :eyebrow:

Tbh that's a nice founderless region there BBD

You do realise that all the game-created regions are founderless and cannot be password protected (except during the Zombie apocalypse)? And the likelihood of the West Pacific being raided is extremely small with an 800+ endorsement Delegate. While your region has a 2 endorsements Delegate and no password....... Anyone for tag?

Anyway that’s off topic, but I thought you could do with a bit of enlightenment.
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Postby Boda » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:55 am

Liberate SEC Fanatics? Really?

They have spammed embassy requests even when their initial requests we're denied. They were confronted about this many times, but all along the lines of ”If you don't want embassies you can just deny it”. The only way to have this stop was to ultimately ban RBBF from your region.

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Postby Team Leo » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:15 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Team Leo wrote:And so. How would you like it if YOUR region got raided then. :eyebrow:

Tbh that's a nice founderless region there BBD

You do realise that all the game-created regions are founderless and cannot be password protected (except during the Zombie apocalypse)? And the likelihood of the West Pacific being raided is extremely small with an 800+ endorsement Delegate. While your region has a 2 endorsements Delegate and no password....... Anyone for tag?

Anyway that’s off topic, but I thought you could do with a bit of enlightenment.

Yes I realize but I never said I would raid your region.

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Postby Team Leo » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:22 am

Boda wrote:Liberate SEC Fanatics? Really?

They have spammed embassy requests even when their initial requests we're denied. They were confronted about this many times, but all along the lines of ”If you don't want embassies you can just deny it”. The only way to have this stop was to ultimately ban RBBF from your region.

Against.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:34 am

Echoing what Kuriko said, SECFanatics founder was 1) a weirdo 2) a raider. They don't deserve a liberation, and even if they did, no one's going to liberate it. Also, TBH could easy refound and get a liberation badge as a trophy. It's best to drop this.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:43 am

Kuriko wrote:Turns out, both RBBF and the old founder of the Femdom region had been deleted roughly within a minute or two of each other. You can check that out yourself in the boneyard, but RBBF was founder of SecFanatics and Queendom of Goddess Messalina both. The old founder of Queendom of Goddess Messalina was General Alexander Haig.

Rumour has it that they were part of a group of nations caught indulging in non PG-13 roleplaying via telegram. Don't know how true it is, but quite a number of nations got DEATed at the same time for something that happened gameside.
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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Turns out, both RBBF and the old founder of the Femdom region had been deleted roughly within a minute or two of each other. You can check that out yourself in the boneyard, but RBBF was founder of SecFanatics and Queendom of Goddess Messalina both. The old founder of Queendom of Goddess Messalina was General Alexander Haig.

Rumour has it that they were part of a group of nations caught indulging in non PG-13 roleplaying via telegram. Don't know how true it is, but quite a number of nations got DEATed at the same time for something that happened gameside.

Wasn't that a while ago?
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Postby Wayneactia » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:59 am

Team Leo wrote:
Boda wrote:Liberate SEC Fanatics? Really?

They have spammed embassy requests even when their initial requests we're denied. They were confronted about this many times, but all along the lines of ”If you don't want embassies you can just deny it”. The only way to have this stop was to ultimately ban RBBF from your region.

Against.

Yo SECFanatics is my allies. You gotta help em you know :eyebrow:

No we don't. If this means that much to you, then I would go about writing a decent liberation, getting it to quorum, and then telegramming every WA nation to vote for it. That MAY overcome the massive delegate stomp. Best pull out your credit card son. You'll be needin' it.....

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:28 am

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Rumour has it that they were part of a group of nations caught indulging in non PG-13 roleplaying via telegram. Don't know how true it is, but quite a number of nations got DEATed at the same time for something that happened gameside.

Wasn't that a while ago?

RBBF got DEATed about the beginning of this month and the Hawks went in for the first time just after. I know, seems longer - must be lockdown fever. :)
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