Kosovo president indicted as war criminal, resists

[Novus America]

Why don't we just let the region fix the Fluster Cluck of made up borders NATO made after the invasion? We use UN Peacekeepers to insure there's no Genocide or anything like that and let the region fix the borders (Ethnically, Religiously, Linguistically, ETC)

It's like Africa. The Balkans are violent because the world powers muddled with stuff and made artificial borders with no thought or regard of the local divisions.

Eh, actually the borders of Srpska were drawn to match the local divisions. That is why they are awkward. The local divisions are messy and awkward, the people are not necessarily clustered in a compact contiguous area.
So “fixing them” is not easy. Especially as governments of the region do not necessarily agree on where the borders should be.

[Shofercia]

Yep, but you need money to achieve that, and no one was willing to give loans to Yugoslavia that were necessary to accomplish the task. Moving's a complicated process, especially when you're moving millions of people.

Poorer countries with more ethnic hatred managed to do the same thing plenty of times. Yes it would have been hard but it isn't like that is an unheard of thing in Europe. It would have been the best way to prevent another out break of fighting because X ethnic enclave didn't want to live near Y. You wouldn't need to worry about far flung outposts being strangled by the enemy because you have a town surrounded by a hostile ethnic map.

People need an incentive to move, and when you're incentive is "don't get killed" you're essentially bullying them to move, meaning that you'll end up with the very same hostility you've tried to prevent. Yugoslavia needed loans, and was denied said loans. If Yugoslavia got the desperately needed loans, we could've seen the Balkan History unfolding differently, and much less tragically.

Why don't we just let the region fix the Fluster Cluck of made up borders NATO made after the invasion? We use UN Peacekeepers to insure there's no Genocide or anything like that and let the region fix the borders (Ethnically, Religiously, Linguistically, ETC)

It's like Africa. The Balkans are violent because the world powers muddled with stuff and made artificial borders with no thought or regard of the local divisions.

That can work, as just one of the solutions of a solution package.

Can we stop with this Kosovo is Serbia drivel? They voted overwhelmingly to not be Serbia, most of it's inhabitants aren't Serbs, etc etc. And to those who say "Well, right then, let's just partition it!"

Are you fucking kidding? What happened, pray tell, the last time we tried to split the Balkan states into entities where it's inhabitants hated one another? Did that go well? I can't seem to recall...

Edit: I'm sure the charges against the Kosovoan President are legitimate, just as they've been legitimate for every single fucking Balkan leader that ever served during the armed conflicts of the 1990s. That alone doesn't undermine Kosovo's rightful sovereignty and right to remain independent from Serbia.

Good point

Horrific point if you're a Serb living in North Kosovo. Returning North Kosovo to Serbia, de jure, wouldn't be complicated, since it already has clearly defined borders which are rather easy to defend. And it's a part of it de facto. I'm also confused as to what makes Kosovo's sovereignty rightful - was it the ethnic cleansing or the organ trade? Here's an actual map of North Kosovo:

[Cisairse]

To solve this problem the Kosovon proletariat should rise up and transform Kosovo into a transitional proletarian state

[Thermodolia]

Tbh Srpska should be its own nation or part of Serbia. No sense in keeping peacekeepers in place permanently

True, but it'd be pretty border-gore-y.

Can’t be any worse than some of my EU4/HOI4 runs

[Shofercia]

True, but it'd be pretty border-gore-y.

Can’t be any worse than some of my EU4/HOI4 runs

Maps or it didn't happen, nao!

[Atheris]

Can’t be any worse than some of my EU4/HOI4 runs

Maps or it didn't happen, nao!

I don't have a map, but one game Germany lost WW2 over Czechoslovakia, turned democratic, and then immediately invaded Poland.

Suffice to say, Poland steamrolled them, and they were annexed.

[Cisairse]

Maps or it didn't happen, nao!

I don't have a map, but one game Germany lost WW2 over Czechoslovakia, turned democratic, and then immediately invaded Poland.

Suffice to say, Poland steamrolled them, and they were annexed.

based

[Shofercia]

I don't have a map, but one game Germany lost WW2 over Czechoslovakia, turned democratic, and then immediately invaded Poland.

Suffice to say, Poland steamrolled them, and they were annexed.

based

Poland does quite well... in computer games

[Vassenor]

Maps or it didn't happen, nao!

I don't have a map, but one game Germany lost WW2 over Czechoslovakia, turned democratic, and then immediately invaded Poland.

Suffice to say, Poland steamrolled them, and they were annexed.

F.

[Kowani]

Maps or it didn't happen, nao!

I don't have a map, but one game Germany lost WW2 over Czechoslovakia, turned democratic, and then immediately invaded Poland.

Suffice to say, Poland steamrolled them, and they were annexed.

Anchluss request denied.