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What is your IQ?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:13 am

>145
21
19%
130–145
25
22%
115–130
19
17%
100—115
3
3%
85—100
1
1%
70—85
1
1%
<70
10
9%
I don't know
32
29%
 
Total votes : 112

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Postby Stellonia » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:13 am

IQ refers to intelligence quotient, or an attempt to objectively measure or quantify a person's intelligence. IQ is distributed according to a Bell curve with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15 (see picture below). An IQ of 130 or above indicates genius, and an IQ of 70 or below indicates mental retardation (someone below 70 cannot face capital punishment in the United States), although these thresholds are arbitrary.

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However, IQ is a controversial subject. IQ tests have been accused of being culturally specific, meaning that they have the effect of skewing the results based on their takers' cultural background. They have also been criticized for prioritizing some forms of intelligence while disregarding others.

What do you think, NSG? If you have experience with IQ tests, what do you think about the different tests?
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Postby Arzt0zka » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:41 am

Stellonia wrote:IQ refers to intelligence quotient, or an attempt to objectively measure or quantify a person's intelligence. IQ is distributed according to a Bell curve with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15 (see picture below). An IQ of 130 or above indicates genius, and an IQ of 70 or below indicates mental retardation (someone below 70 cannot face capital punishment in the United States), although these thresholds are arbitrary.

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However, IQ is a controversial subject. IQ tests have been accused of being culturally specific, meaning that they have the effect of skewing the results based on their takers' cultural background. They have also been criticized for prioritizing some forms of intelligence while disregarding others.

What do you think, NSG? If you have experience with IQ tests, what do you think about the different tests?


IQ is the best current measure for intelligence we can find other then rigorous tests that give the same result, and I don't care that communists cry about minority IQs being slightly lower and that fascists cry about Jewish IQs being too high. It doesn't matter.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:43 am

It took me half an hour to finish the test, and then the website told me that if I want to know the result, I have to pay $9.99.Damn it. The website should told me first
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:57 am

I don't know what my IQ is.

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:It took me half an hour to finish the test, and then the website told me that if I want to know the result, I have to pay $9.99.Damn it. The website should told me first

That's how they get you. I wouldn't trust websites such as that to be honest. Get a professional to administer it to you.
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Postby The Grims » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:It took me half an hour to finish the test, and then the website told me that if I want to know the result, I have to pay $9.99.Damn it. The website should told me first

A proper IQ test takes about 3 hours, so unless you are a lightning fast supergenius the online test was probably a tad bit fraudulent anyway ;)

142 here. Cool number, but not a genius.

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Postby Silvedania » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:22 am

I agree that you shouldn't have to pay. The free ones are usually scams.





I took one for free and got 126. I am proud of it, but I'm younger than the audience the test was for. That test doesn't seem credible.
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Postby Dogmeat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:36 am

I took one professionally as part of a general test for something else. It was pretty in-depth, administered by a psychiatrist, and gave separate scores for mental and physical intelligence.

It basically left me with the sense that those online tests are all bullshit. Don't be taken in. Someone who brags about the 150 they got on an online IQ test is demonstrating a profound lack of intelligence.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:39 am

IQ's a bunch of bullshit, if you ask me. No proof that it actually quantifies how intelligent you are.
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Postby Qabea » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:40 am

Dogmeat wrote:I took one professionally as part of a general test for something else. It was pretty in-depth, administered by a psychiatrist, and gave separate scores for mental and physical intelligence.

It basically left me with the sense that those online tests are all bullshit. Don't be taken in. Someone who brags about the 150 they got on an online IQ test is demonstrating a profound lack of intelligence.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:43 am

IQ is inaccurate because it told me I'm below average and I don't like it. BAD!
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Postby Prozitia » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:48 am

Arzt0zka wrote:
Stellonia wrote:IQ refers to intelligence quotient, or an attempt to objectively measure or quantify a person's intelligence. IQ is distributed according to a Bell curve with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15 (see picture below). An IQ of 130 or above indicates genius, and an IQ of 70 or below indicates mental retardation (someone below 70 cannot face capital punishment in the United States), although these thresholds are arbitrary.

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However, IQ is a controversial subject. IQ tests have been accused of being culturally specific, meaning that they have the effect of skewing the results based on their takers' cultural background. They have also been criticized for prioritizing some forms of intelligence while disregarding others.

What do you think, NSG? If you have experience with IQ tests, what do you think about the different tests?


IQ is the best current measure for intelligence we can find other then rigorous tests that give the same result, and I don't care that communists cry about minority IQs being slightly lower and that fascists cry about Jewish IQs being too high. It doesn't matter.

Damn, can't you talk about anything without mentioning "muh totalitarian communists"? Pure ideology, dude.
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:01 am

Marginally useful for one of 2 purposes:

1. As a screening tool so you can not discrepancies and diagnose (as part of a wide spectrum of assessments) learning or developmental differences. Most useful in children, but can be applied to adults too - however these days most learning differences are diagnosed at school.

2. As a way of scamming moderately bright but quite lazy 20-30 somethings out of money. Set up a test, get them to fill it in and that, charge a few quid and then give them a participation trophy that says they're super bright and they could totally be the next Einstein if they wanted to be.
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Postby Stellonia » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:25 am

As of this post, two out of 24 people have responded to the poll by saying their IQ is less than 70. Normally, I would assume that they are joking, but having seen some of the people on NSG, I suspect that they might be serious.

Prozitia wrote:
Arzt0zka wrote:IQ is the best current measure for intelligence we can find other then rigorous tests that give the same result, and I don't care that communists cry about minority IQs being slightly lower and that fascists cry about Jewish IQs being too high. It doesn't matter.

Damn, can't you talk about anything without mentioning "muh totalitarian communists"? Pure ideology, dude.

To be fair, they also mentioned fascists.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:28 am

The only thing an IQ test measures is the ability to take IQ tests. It is very good at measuring that.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:29 am

IQ isn't really a measure of intelligence in any meaningful sense.
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Postby Stellonia » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:30 am

Ethel mermania wrote:The only thing an IQ test measures is the ability to take IQ tests. It is very good at measuring that.

This is a simplistic take. IQ tests also measure intellectual traits that one must marshal in order to take an IQ test.

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Postby Italios » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:31 am

i've been professionally tested and the results suggested i had an IQ of over 140
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:32 am

NSG post count is a much more reliable indicator of intelligence.
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Postby Stellonia » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:32 am

Italios wrote:i've been professionally tested and the results suggested i had an IQ of over 140

Congratulations! Which test did you take?

Dumb Ideologies wrote:NSG post count is a much more reliable indicator of intelligence.

I agree.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:33 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:NSG post count is a much more reliable indicator of intelligence.

People who escape before they hit double digits are the real geniuses.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:36 am

Stellonia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The only thing an IQ test measures is the ability to take IQ tests. It is very good at measuring that.

This is a simplistic take. IQ tests also measure intellectual traits that one must marshal in order to take an IQ test.

Disagree. It may be simplistic, but is still accurate. There is by definition bias in the test. Scoring well is dependent on fitting in to the assumptions of the test makers.

At least with an SAT test there is some correlation and an external feedback mechanism between it and the ability to do well in an American colleges
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:36 am

Ifreann wrote:IQ isn't really a measure of intelligence in any meaningful sense.

It can be useful in some circumstances as a diagnostic tool to help spot issues like learning difficulties etc, but beyond that there is not any real point to it.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:36 am

Stellonia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:NSG post count is a much more reliable indicator of intelligence.

I agree.


I'm reassured to have secured the support of someone confirmed 20 times smarter than me under this proposed methodology.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:38 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:NSG post count is a much more reliable indicator of intelligence.

People who escape before they hit double digits are the real geniuses.


^ this
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Postby Stellonia » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:38 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Stellonia wrote:This is a simplistic take. IQ tests also measure intellectual traits that one must marshal in order to take an IQ test.

Disagree. It may be simplistic, but is still accurate. There is by definition bias in the test. Scoring well is dependent on fitting in to the assumptions of the test makers.

Satisfying these assumptions require one to be intelligent.

At least with an SAT test there is some correlation and a feedback mechanism between it and the ability to do well in an American colleges

There is also a correlation between IQ and ability to do well at American colleges.

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