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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:21 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:The first break in voting since April?

Since late May, starting with 488 if i'm not wrong
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:45 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:The first break in voting since April?

Since late May, starting with 488 if i'm not wrong

Since April 20th, with Prevention of Forced Sterilization.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:24 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:3. Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death

This clause, in effect, permits the continuation of so-called "blood sports." Cockfights, for example, do not pose "a significant possibility of serious injury or death." You'd be hard-pressed to find a cockfight where somebody died or was seriously injured.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:48 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:3. Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death

This clause, in effect, permits the continuation of so-called "blood sports." Cockfights, for example, do not pose "a significant possibility of serious injury or death." You'd be hard-pressed to find a cockfight where somebody died or was seriously injured.

Pretty sure the cocks have a good chance of dying.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:54 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:This clause, in effect, permits the continuation of so-called "blood sports." Cockfights, for example, do not pose "a significant possibility of serious injury or death." You'd be hard-pressed to find a cockfight where somebody died or was seriously injured.

Pretty sure the cocks have a good chance of dying.

Indeed, but the resolution is unclear on that point. It can easily be interpreted to mean: "Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death [to people]."
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
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GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

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^ repealed resolution
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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:00 am

Christian Democrats wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Pretty sure the cocks have a good chance of dying.

Indeed, but the resolution is unclear on that point. It can easily be interpreted to mean: "Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death [to people]."

That sounds like bad faith compliance
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:04 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:Indeed, but the resolution is unclear on that point. It can easily be interpreted to mean: "Prohibits all forms of blood sports involving animals in which there is a significant possibility of serious injury or death [to people]."

That sounds like bad faith compliance

That is bad faith compliance. Member states don't get to introduce additional qualifiers and pretend that was the meaning of the mandate all along.
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:43 am

OOC: Bad faith or not, it would still allow "blood sports" (including cockfights) where "serious injury or death" is prevented in some way (like people separating the animals before they can cause serious injuries to one another, or having them wear protective gear). So basically, CD is half right.
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Postby Flying Eagles » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:14 am

These arguments are irrelevant, as a blood sport must involve "maiming or killing" per Clause 1a. Blood sports that do not involve "maiming or killing" are not technically considered to be blood sports per this resolution, and a reasonable good-faith compliance would consider "maiming" to be a "serious injury" and "killing" to be a "death".

OOC: Read the repeal attempt. Clause 3 is superfluous.
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