Is a male with low testosterone not biologically male? Is a male with two X chromosomes (i.e. XXY) not biologically male? What if this person has typical female brain stucture and function? (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 112351.htm)
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by ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:59 am
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:20 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:OOC: Somone who has male biological features: an Y chromosome, balance of testosterone and estrogen, the reproductive system, the type of gonad, and external genitalia.
Is a male with low testosterone not biologically male? Is a male with two X chromosomes (i.e. XXY) not biologically male? What if this person has typical female brain stucture and function? (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 112351.htm)
by ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:30 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Is a male with low testosterone not biologically male? Is a male with two X chromosomes (i.e. XXY) not biologically male? What if this person has typical female brain stucture and function? (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 112351.htm)
OOC: Someome with Klinefelter syndrome has an Y chromosome and so that wouldn't make him "not biologically male". It is possible that people share sex factors from both sexes, in which case the term "intersex" is used.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:OOC: Someome with Klinefelter syndrome has an Y chromosome and so that wouldn't make him "not biologically male". It is possible that people share sex factors from both sexes, in which case the term "intersex" is used.
Women with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome also have a Y chromosome. Are they biologically male?
by Araraukar » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:39 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Nevertopia » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:53 am
1. Defines "transgender" as an umbrella term referring to those with a gender identity that differs from their sex assigned at birth. This encompasses the following people:
a) transgender women;
b) transgender men;
c) gender non-binary people;
d) agender people;
e) any personal gender identity that does not match those above.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:11 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Women with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome also have a Y chromosome. Are they biologically male?
OOC: Let's look at what I actually said:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:OOC: Somone who has male biological features: an Y chromosome, balance of testosterone and estrogen, the reproductive system, the type of gonad, and external genitalia.
Note that I never said that everyone with an Y chromosome is biologically male, instead, I listed it as one of several male biological features. Later, I also noted that someone with Klinefelter syndrome is not "not biologically male" per se, because he has an Y chromosome. So the suggestion that everyone with an Y chromosome is biologically male did not come from me.
Then, let's address the question of complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS). Someone affected by CAIS has an Y chromosome, but has female external genitalia. CAIS is also associated with high levels of testosterone, and a lack of an uterus. Now, as I noted before, if "people share sex factors from both sexes", we use the term "intersex". It, then, isn't suprising, that androgen insensitivity syndrome (including CAIS) is an intersex disorder (https://doi.org/10.1348/135910704322778740).
Nevertopia wrote:1. Defines "transgender" as an umbrella term referring to those with a gender identity that differs from their sex assigned at birth. This encompasses the following people:
a) transgender women;
b) transgender men;
c) gender non-binary people;
d) agender people;
e) any personal gender identity that does not match those above.
Wouldn't it be more clear to refer to it as "sex determined at birth" instead of "sex assigned at birth"? It sounds like biological sex is a choice instead of a trait.
Nevertopia wrote:On item e), how do you recognize or define a personal gender identity that doesn't match the above?
Nevertopia wrote:How does the law address someone who's gender fluid that changes from these different identifications sporadically?
Lastly in terms of legal identification, how do you refer to someone who is biologically male but gendered female,vice-versa,etc?
by DACOROMANIA » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:16 am
by Ardiveds » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:02 am
DACOROMANIA wrote:Transgender are not really the Third Gender which in fact was stolen from the rarest Hermaphrodites (half-male, half-female). When about this the Transgender people are the most racist against Hermaphrodites.
Quoting a transgender "shemale": "What? hermaphrodites? even if they may exist they shall have no right, they don't deserve to live but only tranny ones". And this is not a singular case but often many of them believes same. You can find these opinions everywhere on internet, even in chat servers.
Everywhere there is no mention of Hermaphrodites on the Third Gender. Isn't this discrimination? And coming from certain Trans-people.
So fix this issue somehow. Or shall we let this Anti-Hermaphrodite racism continue?
"Transgender Rights Act" might fit better within a "Third-Gender Rights Act" to include all rights and duties, especially when about Hermaphrodites Rights.
by Araraukar » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:16 pm
DACOROMANIA wrote:Quoting a transgender "shemale": "What? hermaphrodites? even if they may exist they shall have no right, they don't deserve to live but only tranny ones".
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
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by Araraukar » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:09 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:24 am
Araraukar wrote:-snip-
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