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India vs. China - Who Would Win in a War?

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What would the result be?

Chinese Victory, Indian Defeat
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43%
Indian Victory, Chinese Defeat
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12%
Chinese Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat
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Indian Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat
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5%
Don't Know/Inconclusive
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India vs. China - Who Would Win in a War?

Postby Free Northwest Sovereign » Sun May 17, 2020 6:43 pm

As you may know, China and India's shared border has been a point of tension for decades. Since the escalating tensions in the 50s and the violent border dispute in the 60s, the area in between the two nations has been in a state of armed coexistence. China and India haven't been able to resolve the coldness between each other entirely even as China is on the path to be the most powerful empire and India is poised become a pivotal part of world affairs. This begs the questions: what if a second, much larger Sino-Indian War breaks out?

Hypothetically speaking, this war would accentuate India's improving relations with the America. However, it would also challenge common allies such as Russia, Iran, and Israel. It would provide a chance for countries harassed by China such as Vietnam, Taiwan, and nations in the Pacific to take sides. South Korea and Japan would be on India's side, while the North would support China. Pakistan would benefit from having an enemy of their enemy.

Alliances aside, both countries have similar populations and rapidly growing militaries. China's armed forces are arguably better. India will have an easier time defending mountainous areas, but the border is very wide and current defenses are inadequate. India has more volunteers, but China's army is larger. They also have a high GDP.

Overall, I think that China has the quantity and quality, but India has less enemies and would not be sanctioned for defending rightful land. In my opinion, China would likely win more battles and would look better when in comes to numbers, but would suffer greatly by making an offensive move and their relations with other countries would deteriorate. What do you think would happen?

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Postby Qabea » Sun May 17, 2020 6:45 pm

Both are nuclear powers that would never go to war because of deterrence.
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Postby Flair » Sun May 17, 2020 6:50 pm

In addition, they both have No-First-Use policies so thankfully, nuclear weapons would probably not be involved.

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Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun May 17, 2020 6:51 pm

Both armies fail to cross the Himalayas and then an armistice is signed because they realize the war is dumb and pointless.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun May 17, 2020 6:51 pm

Flair wrote:In addition, they both have No-First-Use policies so thankfully, nuclear weapons would probably not be involved.

That lasts exactly as long as it takes for one side to start losing.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 17, 2020 6:55 pm

The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun May 17, 2020 6:56 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.

Didn't stop them the last time they attacked India.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 6:56 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.


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Postby Mastodon » Sun May 17, 2020 6:58 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.


Hmm, there's some more recent regions of China that would like to challenge that statement...

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Postby Drongonia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:00 pm

Excluding any international alliances, China would likely be the victor as it has much more advanced manufacturing capacity, as well as an all-round better equipped and more organised armed forces.

I would still prefer India won of course, but nah, doubt.
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Postby Eckie-Cola » Sun May 17, 2020 7:00 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.


China wants to “trade“ as much as the British Empire wanted “trade” with other nations back in it’s heyday.

As to the OP, I’d lean to say China winning militarily until India nukes them.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:01 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.


China wants to “trade“ as much as the British Empire wanted “trade” with other nations back in it’s heyday.

As to the OP, I’d lean to say China winning militarily until India nukes them.


China has more nukes than India.
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Postby Eckie-Cola » Sun May 17, 2020 7:03 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:
China wants to “trade“ as much as the British Empire wanted “trade” with other nations back in it’s heyday.

As to the OP, I’d lean to say China winning militarily until India nukes them.


China has more nukes than India.

Just a few nukes from India hitting China would be devastating, even if China is capable of several more times the destruction in return it’s who shoots first.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun May 17, 2020 7:04 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:
China wants to “trade“ as much as the British Empire wanted “trade” with other nations back in it’s heyday.

As to the OP, I’d lean to say China winning militarily until India nukes them.


China has more nukes than India.

It's like two people standing waist deep in a pool of gasoline, and one is bragging that he has more matches than the other.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:04 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
China has more nukes than India.

Just a few nukes from India hitting China would be devastating, even if China is capable of several more times the destruction in return it’s who shoots first.


It would be more devastating for India since China has more nukes and India is more densely populated and less developed.
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Postby Eckie-Cola » Sun May 17, 2020 7:06 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:Just a few nukes from India hitting China would be devastating, even if China is capable of several more times the destruction in return it’s who shoots first.


It would be more devastating for India since China has more nukes and India is more densely populated and less developed.


Both would be fucked, it doesn’t matter if one gets more fucked in a nuclear exchange than the other.
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India vs. China - Who Would Win in a War?

Postby Deacarsia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:06 pm

China would win in a war against India.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:07 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Both armies fail to cross the Himalayas and then an armistice is signed because they realize the war is dumb and pointless.


Nah, both will try to pull a Manstein maneuver and bypass the Himalayas by charging through other countries. Southeast Asia would probably become the hottest area of conflict, not to mention the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea.
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Postby Free Northwest Sovereign » Sun May 17, 2020 7:08 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.

India has no reason to attack, they recognize the official legitimacy of their lands and those of nations such as Bhutan and Nepal. As for not being an empire, that is obviously untrue. China has threatened the sovereignty of neighbors and denies countries their own waters. I believe that China with renew hostilities against the democratic Taiwan and cause trouble within the next few years and the violations of foreign waters isn't going to end anytime soon.

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Postby Baja California Autonoma » Sun May 17, 2020 7:08 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
China has more nukes than India.

It's like two people standing waist deep in a pool of gasoline, and one is bragging that he has more matches than the other.


One of the best analogies for M.A.D. I've ever seen

India would win, reason:China depends/will depend on trade routes and resources from Africa and to sell goods to US. US and Euro, the other south Asian allies would blockade China. It doesnt matter how many nukes or troops China has if their economy tanks and their people starve or riot. Don't consider China invincible, in its history much smaller nations and people have humbled them.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:09 pm

India has to climb the Himalayas to attack China. But China can strike from a high point down.And to be honest, India's army is too weak. In the first Sino Indian War, China estimated that the level of Indian army was similar to that of South Korea or Turkey.Emmmmm.....It's a good thing not to underestimate the strength of the enemy.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:11 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:India has to climb the Himalayas to attack China. But China can strike from a high point down

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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:12 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
It would be more devastating for India since China has more nukes and India is more densely populated and less developed.


Both would be fucked, it doesn’t matter if one gets more fucked in a nuclear exchange than the other.


Yes, both would get fucked pretty bad. But India would get fucked the hardest and would take much longer to get back up and walk away from it :p
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