NATION

PASSWORD

Hungary Experiencing "A Stunning Democratic Breakdown"

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Hunzali
Secretary
 
Posts: 37
Founded: Apr 08, 2020
Capitalizt

Hungary Experiencing "A Stunning Democratic Breakdown"

Postby Hunzali » Sat May 16, 2020 4:11 pm

The link to the article can be found here.

Hungary is no longer a democracy, Poland is about to go down the same path, democracy in the Balkans is eroding because of Chinese and Russian influence, and the EU is doing nothing to stop it all, according to the NGO Freedom House's latest Nations in Transit report, out Wednesday.

In the study, which covers 29 countries from Central Europe to Central Asia, the authors describe "a stunning democratic breakdown," saying that there are "fewer democracies in the region today than at any point since the annual report was launched in 1995."

According to the report's methodology, Hungary is now a "hybrid regime," having lost its status as a "semi-consolidated democracy" due to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's continued assaults on the country's democratic institutions.

The adoption of an emergency law that allows the government to rule by decree indefinitely, brought in after the coronavirus pandemic struck, "has further exposed the undemocratic character of Orbán's regime," the authors wrote, adding that "Hungary’s decline has been the most precipitous [they have] ever tracked."

Poland isn't far behind, according to the report, which says there have been spectacular attacks on the judiciary by the ruling Law and Justice party.


It seems that Hungary is having a rather dramatic democracy breakdown, and it makes sense too; recently Hungary also silently passed a bill which would also attempt to kill off trans rights and to ban legal recognition of transgender people. I'm not at all surprised that Hungary would experience a breakdown on this level, especially since the recently leader, Viktor Orban recently came to power. Alot of the world is in a backsliding democracy, including Brazil and possibly India, the largest democracy in the world, in the future.

So, NSG, what are your thoughts on this? Did you see this coming or not, and what's your opinion on what's happening in Hungary.

User avatar
Sundiata
Minister
 
Posts: 2631
Founded: Sep 27, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Sundiata » Sat May 16, 2020 4:13 pm

Personally, I saw this coming.
Gender: Male
Religion: Catholic (Opus Dei)
Politics: Solidarity (Catholic Social Teaching)
Economics: Rerum Novarum (The Encyclical)
Alignment: Lawful Good

"Don't say, 'That person bothers me.' Think: 'That person sanctifies me.'"
-St. Josemaria Escriva (Founder of Opus Dei)

User avatar
South Odreria 2
Minister
 
Posts: 2693
Founded: Aug 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Odreria 2 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:14 pm

Hunzali wrote:The link to the article can be found here.

Hungary is no longer a democracy, Poland is about to go down the same path, democracy in the Balkans is eroding because of Chinese and Russian influence, and the EU is doing nothing to stop it all, according to the NGO Freedom House's latest Nations in Transit report, out Wednesday.

In the study, which covers 29 countries from Central Europe to Central Asia, the authors describe "a stunning democratic breakdown," saying that there are "fewer democracies in the region today than at any point since the annual report was launched in 1995."

According to the report's methodology, Hungary is now a "hybrid regime," having lost its status as a "semi-consolidated democracy" due to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's continued assaults on the country's democratic institutions.

The adoption of an emergency law that allows the government to rule by decree indefinitely, brought in after the coronavirus pandemic struck, "has further exposed the undemocratic character of Orbán's regime," the authors wrote, adding that "Hungary’s decline has been the most precipitous [they have] ever tracked."

Poland isn't far behind, according to the report, which says there have been spectacular attacks on the judiciary by the ruling Law and Justice party.


It seems that Hungary is having a rather dramatic democracy breakdown, and it makes sense too; recently Hungary also silently passed a bill which would also attempt to kill off trans rights and to ban legal recognition of transgender people. I'm not at all surprised that Hungary would experience a breakdown on this level, especially since the recently leader, Viktor Orban recently came to power. Alot of the world is in a backsliding democracy, including Brazil and possibly India, the largest democracy in the world, in the future.

So, NSG, what are your thoughts on this? Did you see this coming or not, and what's your opinion on what's happening in Hungary.

To the list of backsliding democracies add Spain, US, Israel, and Turkey just for starters. Also I am unsure as to why the decline of Democracy in Hungary is supposedly faster than the fascist coup in Bolivia.
Last edited by South Odreria 2 on Sat May 16, 2020 4:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says

Centrist Marxist
Serial post deleter

User avatar
The Eastern Cherokee Nation
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Apr 19, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Eastern Cherokee Nation » Sat May 16, 2020 4:17 pm

I just hope people bought guns with there stimulus

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19139
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 16, 2020 4:18 pm

If you think it couldn't happen here

think again.
Last edited by Rojava Free State on Sat May 16, 2020 4:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

User avatar
The Saruvian Empire
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 11
Founded: Mar 29, 2019
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby The Saruvian Empire » Sat May 16, 2020 4:21 pm

A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19139
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 16, 2020 4:22 pm

The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!


If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?
Last edited by Rojava Free State on Sat May 16, 2020 4:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

User avatar
Atheris
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1759
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Atheris » Sat May 16, 2020 4:23 pm

The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!

What do you mean you've seen this one? It's brand new!
Dollystana wrote:The one nation that you can’t get rid of.
Ceranapis wrote:"Who needs a country when you can write Ace Attorney fan fiction?"
Current Character on Flag: Damon Gant, AA1
touch deprived and slowly going insane ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Asexual and questioning aromantic. Cis male ally!
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist Lutheran Christian.
I write AA fanfiction. Fuck you if you judge me. Links in my factbook.
WA RP nation: Union of Sovereign States and Republics
"People really don't die that easily, as long as they have something to live for." - Phoenix Wright

User avatar
La Paz de Los Ricos
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 408
Founded: Oct 26, 2017
Left-wing Utopia

Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Sat May 16, 2020 4:26 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!


If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?


So, are we gonna call it World War III or World War II II?
▲ - The Treangolist Triultarchy of La Paz de Los Ricos -▲
OVERVIEW HISTORY CULTURE LEGISLATION


Humble archipelago nation vying for power as humanity battles itself to colonize the solar system. Current year is 2720. More to come.

User avatar
Atheris
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1759
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Atheris » Sat May 16, 2020 4:27 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?


So, are we gonna call it World War III or World War II II?

hee hee, tutu
Dollystana wrote:The one nation that you can’t get rid of.
Ceranapis wrote:"Who needs a country when you can write Ace Attorney fan fiction?"
Current Character on Flag: Damon Gant, AA1
touch deprived and slowly going insane ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Asexual and questioning aromantic. Cis male ally!
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist Lutheran Christian.
I write AA fanfiction. Fuck you if you judge me. Links in my factbook.
WA RP nation: Union of Sovereign States and Republics
"People really don't die that easily, as long as they have something to live for." - Phoenix Wright

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19139
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 16, 2020 4:28 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?


So, are we gonna call it World War III or World War II II?


World War: Last Blood.

Lmao.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

User avatar
Thermodolia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 58837
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 16, 2020 4:28 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!


If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Well Trump is german so....
Male, Titoist cultural nationalist, lives somewhere in the Deep South, give me any good Irish, Canadian, or Scottish whiskey and I will be your friend for life. I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies
Click Here for RP Info Embassy Program
Ambassadors to the WA:
Ambassador to the GA Jon Æthr
Ambassador to the SC Eve Šanœ

RIP Dya

User avatar
Atheris
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1759
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Atheris » Sat May 16, 2020 4:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Well Trump is german so....

orange man bad?

also, the name trump derives from the netherlands, not germany iirc
Dollystana wrote:The one nation that you can’t get rid of.
Ceranapis wrote:"Who needs a country when you can write Ace Attorney fan fiction?"
Current Character on Flag: Damon Gant, AA1
touch deprived and slowly going insane ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Asexual and questioning aromantic. Cis male ally!
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist Lutheran Christian.
I write AA fanfiction. Fuck you if you judge me. Links in my factbook.
WA RP nation: Union of Sovereign States and Republics
"People really don't die that easily, as long as they have something to live for." - Phoenix Wright

User avatar
Kathol Rift
Envoy
 
Posts: 341
Founded: Mar 12, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kathol Rift » Sat May 16, 2020 4:31 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!


If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Oh dear. And the fact that this is happening in Hungary also, which used to be part of Austria, which is where that Angry German Mustache Model was from...
And there is an international European organization that is doing nothing about it...
I’d say we’re in trouble.
| As a nerd, I do use NS stats | the three B’s: Big Guns, Big Robots, Big Tanks |

Stop acting like all cops are evil. It’s a tiny minority of cops that do things like what happened to George Floyd

User avatar
VVerkia
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 181
Founded: Mar 01, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby VVerkia » Sat May 16, 2020 4:31 pm

Rising of lawful evil :(

User avatar
La Paz de Los Ricos
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 408
Founded: Oct 26, 2017
Left-wing Utopia

Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Sat May 16, 2020 4:31 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:
So, are we gonna call it World War III or World War II II?


World War: Last Blood.

Lmao.


The Amazing World War?
▲ - The Treangolist Triultarchy of La Paz de Los Ricos -▲
OVERVIEW HISTORY CULTURE LEGISLATION


Humble archipelago nation vying for power as humanity battles itself to colonize the solar system. Current year is 2720. More to come.

User avatar
Atheris
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1759
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Atheris » Sat May 16, 2020 4:32 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Oh dear. And the fact that this is happening in Hungary also, which used to be part of Austria, which is where that Angry German Mustache Model was from...
And there is an international European organization that is doing nothing about it...
I’d say we’re in trouble.

Something's wrong, I can feel it.
Dollystana wrote:The one nation that you can’t get rid of.
Ceranapis wrote:"Who needs a country when you can write Ace Attorney fan fiction?"
Current Character on Flag: Damon Gant, AA1
touch deprived and slowly going insane ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Asexual and questioning aromantic. Cis male ally!
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist Lutheran Christian.
I write AA fanfiction. Fuck you if you judge me. Links in my factbook.
WA RP nation: Union of Sovereign States and Republics
"People really don't die that easily, as long as they have something to live for." - Phoenix Wright

User avatar
Kargintina the Third
Minister
 
Posts: 2747
Founded: Dec 17, 2019
Corporate Bordello

Postby Kargintina the Third » Sat May 16, 2020 4:32 pm

Kinda based ngl
Former nation of Kargintina 2013-2017, add several thousand posts to current amount.

Kanye/Musk 2020

User avatar
Nap the Magnificent
Diplomat
 
Posts: 916
Founded: Apr 02, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sat May 16, 2020 4:37 pm

Atheris wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well Trump is german so....

orange man bad?

also, the name trump derives from the netherlands, not germany iirc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_(surname)#German_surname
Orthodox Christian. Counter-Enlightenment. Communitarian. Working towards medical school. Pro-Achaemenid, anti-Athenian. Western civilization doesn't exist.
"The heart has its reasons, of which reason knows nothing." - Blaise Pascal

User avatar
Atheris
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1759
Founded: Oct 05, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Atheris » Sat May 16, 2020 4:37 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
Atheris wrote:orange man bad?

also, the name trump derives from the netherlands, not germany iirc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_(surname)#German_surname

ah, i stand corrected
Dollystana wrote:The one nation that you can’t get rid of.
Ceranapis wrote:"Who needs a country when you can write Ace Attorney fan fiction?"
Current Character on Flag: Damon Gant, AA1
touch deprived and slowly going insane ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
The self-proclaimed Resident Shitposter of NSG.
Asexual and questioning aromantic. Cis male ally!
"To comment is human, to preview, divine." - Godot
Orthodox Preterist Lutheran Christian.
I write AA fanfiction. Fuck you if you judge me. Links in my factbook.
WA RP nation: Union of Sovereign States and Republics
"People really don't die that easily, as long as they have something to live for." - Phoenix Wright

User avatar
South Odreria 2
Minister
 
Posts: 2693
Founded: Aug 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Odreria 2 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:38 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!


If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Image
Image
Image
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says

Centrist Marxist
Serial post deleter

User avatar
Agarntrop
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7902
Founded: May 14, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Agarntrop » Sat May 16, 2020 4:39 pm

Well boys we did it, human rights are no more!
Last edited by Agarntrop on Sat May 16, 2020 4:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
IC: The State of Taliana
Soft Left Social Democratic Labour Party Supporter (UK), Pragmatic Progressive Democrat (US)

Sanders 2020 Biden 2020

Starmer 2024 - Nobody be stoppin that FACTION FREE FURY
Views
Join NS P2TM's pre-eminent US politics RP!
Land of the Free
Representative John Atang (D-NY-03)
Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)
Governor Max Smith (R-AZ)
Fmr. Acting Secretary for Homeland Security Tara Misra (R-KY)

User avatar
Diahon
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1470
Founded: Apr 01, 2020
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Diahon » Sat May 16, 2020 4:39 pm

This was inevitable once Fidesz got the nod, again.

They've been spending most of the last decade consolidating their power and shutting up all opposition to their rule; this contagion may have given them a convenient excuse, but they'll have done what they did anyway, under some other pretext.

The European Union really should've struck and asserted its democratic bonafides to its eastern members well before this, instead of playing the Neville Chamberlain; now it can only play that role ever more feebly, as the plague of tribalism spreads throughout Europe and threatens to make mincemeat of postwar European democracy altogether.
FLEE.

User avatar
Nap the Magnificent
Diplomat
 
Posts: 916
Founded: Apr 02, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sat May 16, 2020 4:40 pm

I mean, in of themselves hybrid regimes or non-democratic regimes are not necessarily bad but Orban is a piece of shit tbh.
Orthodox Christian. Counter-Enlightenment. Communitarian. Working towards medical school. Pro-Achaemenid, anti-Athenian. Western civilization doesn't exist.
"The heart has its reasons, of which reason knows nothing." - Blaise Pascal

User avatar
The Greater Ohio Valley
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5634
Founded: Jan 19, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat May 16, 2020 4:40 pm

Hungary is pretty much doomed to reverting back into an authoritarian hellscape at this point, and Poland is not too far behind it, it might be time to look into seriously considering cutting that half of the Visegrád Group loose from NATO and the EU, they’re becoming nothing more than liabilities.
28 year old pansexual H. sapien male who likes naps and PS1-era Resident Evil.
Hey, it's up to us to take out Umbrella.

Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

Eternally craving chicken nuggies and chimichangas.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Alcala-Cordel, Austria-Bohemia-Hungary, Fahran, Foxfound, Gormwood, Greater Miami Shores, Greed and Death, Grinning Dragon, Hurdergaryp, Jerzylvania, Jetan, Kannap, La xinga, New Terrasol, Post War America, Senkaku, Sundiata, The Black Forrest, The Emerald Legion, The Greater Ohio Valley, The Reformed American Republic, Uiiop, Your ex wife

Advertisement

Remove ads