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[WITHDRAWN] Commend Deruuu

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[WITHDRAWN] Commend Deruuu

Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:27 am

Oh boy, kinda frightened by the response this may have.

So people may believe that this an attempt to get a badge. I can assure you it is not. I don't necessarily even expect this resolution to pass if it even gets to a vote. I hope that if it is up however that Durnil may be informed of it in some way and make another video on NS.

The main purpose of this proposed resolution is much bigger than any normal SC resolution. It is my hope that through commendation, or at least attempted commendation, that Drew Durnil or a YouTuber friend of him may bring future exposure to NS. This commendation hopes to achieve this by painting the game's community in a positive light and possibly motivating Durnil to return to the game because he may notice his commendation and give more exposure to NS or for one of his YouTuber friends to see the positive feedback from the NS community (and not be put off by the negativity on display) and to make a video on NS at least partially because of that.

This resolution is also in part a response to the Condemn Deruuu resolution currently up to vote as it relies heavily on the only negative thing you may be able to argue is the fault of Deruuu, which was the site's issues, and to instead point out that Deruuu's positive impacts outnumber the negative. Also, I feel it is important to point out that nations may be angered by the lack of knowledge or misbehaving that new nations may have. I respond to this by saying that any new player regardless of when or why they start playing NS will not understand the game perfectly and that some may not think to read the Help section and that you cannot pin the blame of any of his follower's possible misbehaving onto Durnil as he didn't encourage that at all.

Also, some may argue that the SC shouldn't be used to willy nilly commend a YouTuber for bringing exposure to the game. I understand that some may be put off by the fact that Durnil is just a YouTuber and that may somehow make him ineligible for commendation but I further push the fact that exposure is one of the best things for any game, including NS. Few people can do that for NS and Durnil is one of those few.

This is my first attempt to make a resolution and though I did my research I hope for actual feedback on whether or not my draft is legal or not and how it may be improved.

Thank you. :p

If you are somehow unaware to to the situation, Deruuu is owned by YouTuber Drew Durnil (https://www.youtube.com/user/BAStartGaming) who made a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7g17minbsE) about NationStates and he generated a lot of traffic to the game and introduced tons of new nations to NS!

Welcoming Deruuu (also referenced as simply Deruuu in this commendation) and it's follower nations into our universe,

Acknowledging the indirect positive impacts of Deruuu,

I. Introducing thousands of new nations to our universe through giving it exposure,

II. Excited at the future positive impacts new nations introduced to our universe by Deruuu may have upon the universe,

III. For possibly convincing older fallen nations to rise again,

IV. For exposing the weakness in the universal infrastructure,

V. And by boosting the popularity of Confederacy of Layem which is a region dedicated towards promoting freedom of speech and freedom of expression,

However understanding that in the short term Deruuu may have had negative impacts upon the universe by bringing the processes of the universe to a halt and/or slow for a short period of time,

Arguing that this was not the fault of Deruuu or it's followers and instead simply the fault of the universe's infrastructure,

Arguing instead that Deruuu will have positive lasting impacts upon the universe,

Hoping that through commendation Deruuu may bring more positive impacts to the universe by promoting it further,

Seeking to commemorate the indirect actions of Deruuu,

Hereby commends Deruuu.
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Postby Daytime to Night » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:30 am

This is an illegal proposal due to repeated references to the game and website.

World Assembly proposals need to be in character (as nations referring only to the context within the NS world).

Also, I think people are probably extremely tired of Deruuu proposals so it probably isn't worth a re-write. Commendations and Condemnations are usually reserved for those who have invested a lot of time and achieved a lot (good or bad) within the game, rather than based on single events.
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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:32 am

Daytime to Night wrote:This is an illegal proposal due to repeated references to the game and website.

World Assembly proposals need to be in character (as nations referring only to the context within the NS world).

Also, I think people are probably extremely tired of Deruuu proposals so it probably isn't worth a re-write. Commendations and Condemnations are usually reserved for those who have invested a lot of time and achieved a lot (good or bad) within the game, rather than based on single events.

Thank you for responding. How do you propose I avoid the repeated references to the game? Also I do understand people's exhaustion with this whole Deruuu event but I feel that the purpose I hope to achieve still stands.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:40 am

Totally illegal for all the references to NS as a game. Once you take all of those out there’s nothing left.

Deruuu has done nothing in the game, does not deserve either a Commendation or Condemnation.

Best to bury this in a 6 foot pit.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:40 am

Oh great not another Deruuu resolution...
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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:43 am

I fixed the references to the game in a way that is hopefully acceptable.

I really do understand the feelings you all have towards ANOTHER Deruuu resolution but please do understand that this resolution has a goal behind it.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:45 am

Melenavenia wrote:I fixed the references to the game in a way that is hopefully acceptable.

I really do understand the feelings you all have towards ANOTHER Deruuu resolution but please do understand that this resolution has a goal behind it.

Yes and those of us experienced in the SC know that goal. It’s called a badge hunt.

And it’s still illegal, so not a very clever badge hunt.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:47 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Melenavenia wrote:I fixed the references to the game in a way that is hopefully acceptable.

I really do understand the feelings you all have towards ANOTHER Deruuu resolution but please do understand that this resolution has a goal behind it.

Yes and those of us experienced in the SC know that goal. It’s called a badge hunt.

The goal is to possibly get more exposure for NationStates. I understand that the chances of this resolution being passed are probably low and just getting this up to vote I hope would maybe give more exposure to the game.

Could you please inform me how it is illegal? I want to make sure it is legal.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:51 am

Melenavenia wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Yes and those of us experienced in the SC know that goal. It’s called a badge hunt.

The goal is to possibly get more exposure for NationStates. I understand that the chances of this resolution being passed are probably low and just getting this up to vote I hope would maybe give more exposure to the game.

Could you please inform me how it is illegal? I want to make sure it is legal.

Oh how noble, more exposure for NS. Tres altruistic.

Have a read of the rules and see if you can figure out where you’ve gone wrong.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:08 am

So, I believe I fixed the issues with references to the game. I have learned that I cannot read.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:23 am

Melenavenia wrote:So, I believe I fixed the issues with references to the game. I have learned that I cannot read.

It’s still utter crap.

As was said previously by Daytime to Night:

Commendations and Condemnations are usually reserved for those who have invested a lot of time and achieved a lot (good or bad) within the game, rather than based on single events.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:27 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Melenavenia wrote:So, I believe I fixed the issues with references to the game. I have learned that I cannot read.

As was said previously by Daytime to Night:

Commendations and Condemnations are usually reserved for those who have invested a lot of time and achieved a lot (good or bad) within the game, rather than based on single events.

Usually but not always. There is no rule that involves how long a nation has been involved or how much that nation has been involved.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:30 am

Nah Deruuu doesn't deserve any badge. His actions don't have much significance at all and I would argue that he didn't cause them, but his fans decided to check the site for himself because he just made a video.
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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:05 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Nah Deruuu doesn't deserve any badge. His actions don't have much significance at all and I would argue that he didn't cause them, but his fans decided to check the site for himself because he just made a video.

I acknowledged this by declaring that what I am putting him up for commendation for him was indirect.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:14 pm

Melenavenia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Nah Deruuu doesn't deserve any badge. His actions don't have much significance at all and I would argue that he didn't cause them, but his fans decided to check the site for himself because he just made a video.

I acknowledged this by declaring that what I am putting him up for commendation for him was indirect.

Nah it's not getting anywhere. I wouldn't advise putting this up for approval.
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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:22 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Melenavenia wrote:I acknowledged this by declaring that what I am putting him up for commendation for him was indirect.

Nah it's not getting anywhere. I wouldn't advise putting this up for approval.

Perhaps. I certainly wasn't expecting the stress that this involved due to my inexperience. I don't think it is worth trying to pursue this anymore. Thank you for being socially kind. :p
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:24 pm

Melenavenia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Nah it's not getting anywhere. I wouldn't advise putting this up for approval.

Perhaps. I certainly wasn't expecting the stress that this involved due to my inexperience. I don't think it is worth trying to pursue this anymore. Thank you for being socially kind. :p

At least you put up a draft to get feedback. You can definitely use this experience for future SC proposals you have down the road. And hey, it doesn't hurt to try even if such Deruuu proposals are quite unpopular.
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Postby Melenavenia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:26 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Melenavenia wrote:Perhaps. I certainly wasn't expecting the stress that this involved due to my inexperience. I don't think it is worth trying to pursue this anymore. Thank you for being socially kind. :p

At least you put up a draft to get feedback. You can definitely use this experience for future SC proposals you have down the road. And hey, it doesn't hurt to try even if such Deruuu proposals are quite unpopular.

You're right. If I ever do attempt to make another resolution I know what to expect now.
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