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Would you play golf with Donald Trump?

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Would You Play Golf with Trump?

Yes
149
42%
No
86
24%
You'd have to pay me
18
5%
He'd have to pay me
43
12%
For political favours
16
4%
If I could leverage the opportunity to achieve my own goals
47
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Would you play golf with Donald Trump?

Postby Forsher » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:36 am

Okay, let's ignore that there's a major public health crisis at the moment. Imagine it's some time in the future where Covid-19 is like SARS or whatever... incurable, but rare and containable. Or, alternatively, pretend it's, say, 4 June 2018.

Would you play Golf with Trump?

If you're wondering why I care, this is why. Do I know why that was a headline? No. But it was. If you're wondering... yes we know if John Key pisses in the shower. The answer is yes. The man will tell you anything. And apparently it's headline news even when he's no longer the prime minister.

Since I know NSG can be funny with the rules... these are the inviolable facts:

  • you are you... you're only as well known, rich, old, educated, male, white etc. etc. as you actually are (I feel Trump might like you more if you're a rich white guy that lots people know)
  • Trump is Trump
  • it's just golf... but it could be more, depending on your conversation goes :rofl:
  • Trump has a spare set of clubs if you need 'em

Since it's Trump, if he really likes you, there's a good chance he might make you the boss of something. I wouldn't bank on having much job security though.

I don't know if golf has to be played in a quartet or not but if that's the case the other two people are... random secret service guys. If you really want them to have personalities: Secret Service Guy A likes well done steaks and Secret Service Guy B says he likes well done steaks.

Okay... so, my answer is "Sure, why not?"

I've never played golf* nor ever spent one on one time with anyone important, it'd be interesting. Playing golf with a dude, even one as awful and image-dependent as Trump, does not make you complicit in anything other than "playing golf with a dude". Likewise, if you think Trump's the bees knees, you don't somehow get to share in his magnificence merely by playing golf with him (and, honestly, if you tried to I don't think Trump would like it). Interesting, as they say, is a cop out: it's a wholly amoral term, and the friend of the fence sitter.

*I have, however, whacked a golf ball with a golf club... I strongly recommend wearing gloves.

Actually, I strongly suspect any conversation with Trump would quite rapidly become uninteresting, but I really want to know what covfefe means :rofl: And, besides, there are the secret service guys.

Related question... you and any three other people are playing golf, who are your other three people? They can be dead or alive. Like the dinner party guest game. I'll pick Tiger Woods (because, hey, then I could say I played golf against him), Lebron James and James Comey ('cause they're tall and don't seem like complete idiots).
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:42 am

I'm a terrible golfer. The question should be, would he play with me?

Trump has a handicap of 2.8 which is good. It might be the one thing on Earth that he does well.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:44 am

That just sounds like two ways to ruin a nice walk.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:44 am

I can't golf for shit so probably not.
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Postby Surrealist Patagonia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:46 am

I have seen pictures of Trump looking dummy thicc when golfing so why not.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:47 am

Surrealist Patagonia wrote:I have seen pictures of Trump looking dummy thicc when golfing so why not.


He's thicc-er when playing tennis.

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Postby Skyhooked » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:48 am

I ain't that kind of guy, who ever played golf, and I don't agree with ol' Trump on at least half of the issues, but why not? Cuz I could get some awesome things out of this, besides, I'll have an awesome story to tell at home to all the relatives.

But... why the heck would Trump play gold with random Ukrainian dude?
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Postby Surrealist Patagonia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:52 am

Skyhooked wrote:I ain't that kind of guy, who ever played golf, and I don't agree with ol' Trump on at least half of the issues, but why not? Cuz I could get some awesome things out of this, besides, I'll have an awesome story to tell at home to all the relatives.

But... why the heck would Trump play gold with random Ukrainian dude?


He's trying to find dirt on Biden
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I can't golf for shit so probably not.


I golf backwards. Ie flog.
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Postby Skyhooked » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:06 am

Surrealist Patagonia wrote:He's trying to find dirt on Biden


Well, I don't know a thing about Biden, except he's a politician and he is disliked. But... why diggin' if ya' can make it all up?

And why ol' Biden is hated anyway? I live a lil' bit far from the land of the free and the home of the brave, so... those news didn't concern me too much.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:07 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I can't golf for shit so probably not.

Same. Also the man is a cunt and frankly dont wana deal with him.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:09 am

Crazy golf and he pays for hamburgers after.
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Postby Aikoriland » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:12 am

Why not?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:13 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Crazy golf and he pays for hamburgers after.


Something tells me you're good at crazy golf ...
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:13 am

Skyhooked wrote:
Surrealist Patagonia wrote:He's trying to find dirt on Biden


Well, I don't know a thing about Biden, except he's a politician and he is disliked. But... why diggin' if ya' can make it all up?

And why ol' Biden is hated anyway? I live a lil' bit far from the land of the free and the home of the brave, so... those news didn't concern me too much.


He's a Democrat, he's got a somewhat creepy habit of invading personal space of everyone, he's been accused of rape (obviously though, unproven in court) and he has a strange habit of saying senile-sounding things at times such as "vote for the other Biden".

Which still makes him waaaay better than Trump, who can at least equal him on all those things sometimes. Hell, he was even a Democrat voter not so long ago.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:14 am

Aikoriland wrote:Why not?


You might say the wrong thing and never get a job again in your life?
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Postby Aikoriland » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:14 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aikoriland wrote:Why not?


You might say the wrong thing and never get a job again in your life?


How?
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:15 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aikoriland wrote:Why not?


You might say the wrong thing and never get a job again in your life?


Trump has absolutely no ability to stop me getting a job?
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Postby Mzeusia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:15 am

I've never played golf before and Trump doesn't seem like the person to teach it to anyone. As to the three people who I might want to golf with, I'm not sure, but they would have to be people I would want to talk to regardless of golf. That way, at least I can have interesting conversations while I try to block out the fact that golf pitches are just places to put balls down holes and I could be doing the same thing in my garden.
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Postby Skyhooked » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:19 am

Albrenia wrote:He's a Democrat, he's got a somewhat creepy habit of invading personal space of everyone, he's been accused of rape (obviously though, unproven in court) and he has a strange habit of saying senile-sounding things at times such as "vote for the other Biden".

Which still makes him waaaay better than Trump, who can at least equal him on all those things sometimes. Hell, he was even a Democrat voter not so long ago.


Well, that explains things somehow. Thanks. Either way, I am a sorta anarchist dude, so I don't exactly care. I disagree with both Republicans and Democrats, so... I won't derail this further.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:27 am

Fuck no.
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Postby Forsher » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:33 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:I'm a terrible golfer. The question should be, would he play with me?

Trump has a handicap of 2.8 which is good. It might be the one thing on Earth that he does well.


I mean... Trump strikes me as the kind of guy that loves winning way more than he loves sport.

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Have to say, I'm surprised you object. Weren't you one of the "as long as the Electoral College gets my guy in, it's all good" people?
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Postby Telconi » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:34 am

Forsher wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:I'm a terrible golfer. The question should be, would he play with me?

Trump has a handicap of 2.8 which is good. It might be the one thing on Earth that he does well.


I mean... Trump strikes me as the kind of guy that loves winning way more than he loves sport.

Telconi wrote:Fuck no.


Have to say, I'm surprised you object. Weren't you one of the "as long as the Electoral College gets my guy in, it's all good" people?


Just because he's a useful piece of shit doesn't make him less of a piece of shit.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:46 am

Aikoriland wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You might say the wrong thing and never get a job again in your life?


How?


He sacks anyone who disagrees with him. You're not taking me seriously I hope?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:57 am

I'm kind of blind so my golfing is really shit, obviously, I've more chance of hitting myself through an over-enthusiastic swing than the ball, so no.
Would I meet Trump in another social situation though? Sure, who wouldn't want a chance to talk to one of the most powerful people in the world. I'm a rich white guy so we might get along.
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