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[DRAFT] Ending School Segregation

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:50 am

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Ending School Segregation
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Whereas the exclusion of minority students from education with the majority population in separate educational facilities creates an inherently unequal quality of education by neglecting the student's ability to discuss and exchange views with other students:

And whereas racial and class motivated biases, along with the costs of private education, produce self-segregation that negatively affects students' ability to engage with society writ large:

And whereas the only way to prevent this self-segregation is for the state to promote values of pluralism and tolerance in the realm of schooling:

And whereas, if the Assembly is to ensure minority students' inclusion in schools, safeguards are required to prevent staff from treating those students poorly and to protect such students from being harassed:

Now therefore, be it enacted by this august World Assembly as follows:

  1. Rights of the child. Children have a right, by education, to develop competence to interact in a pluralistic society. Unless a child is physically unfit to attend a school or an undue hardship is imposed on the child by this requirement, member states must to the best of their ability advance this goal through schooling; to that end, among other things, they shall prohibit segregation and self-segregation of students by parental income, race, religion, or other protected classes.

  2. Ensuring school quality. Member nations shall ensure that educational services not under their direct control meet or exceed the same standards as those under their direct control on the following criteria: educational goals, facilities, instructors' training, and other standards that member nations may by law or resolution create. Member nations may not use accreditation in a way that encourages segregation by classes in section 1.

  3. School authorities' duty to parents. Parents may, with the advice and consent of an administrative law (or other suitably empowered) officer, require school authorities to take action to prevent their children from being poorly treated by other children or staff on account of background, beliefs, and other rights protected by World Assembly legislation.

  4. Clarification. In this resolution,
    1. resolution refers to World Assembly resolutions and
    2. parent includes guardians.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:50 am

Réservé.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:55 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:1. Rights of the child. Children have a right, by education, to develop competence to interact in a pluralistic society. Unless a child is physically unfit to attend a school or an undue hardship is imposed on the child by this requirement, member states shall to the best of their ability advance this goal through schooling.

Erm... is this the "member states can force parents to let their children attend school" resolution that you've been teasing us about for the past few days? I don't have the right to pay taxes and you don't have the right to get a background check before buying a gun - because they are responsibilities that are imposed upon us.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:11 am

Sure and I don't have a right to beat my children (not that I have any) because the child has a right not to be abused. It is almost as if rights are not absolute and that some rights trade off each other. When it comes to homeschooling, I am entirely fine with people homeschooling their children as long as they also engage with other students from different backgrounds so to achieve the specified goal. If you think that bans homeschooling, then you need to accept that and weigh the consequences.
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Postby Unthank » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:10 am

It does look rather like what happens is this:
I take my precious little darling out of school because she's undergoing "hardship."
I'm forced to send her back again because I can't provide the same facilities as a mainstream school.

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Postby Disembodied Voice » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:14 am

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Postby Kyundao » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:02 pm

Just because private schools cost money doesn't always mean that children are going to be segregated, nor does it mean that the education is going to be of poor quality. Also, what if the child doesn't want to interact with the other children?

Since you haven't accounted for those two, I'm opposed to this.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:07 pm

Kyundao wrote:Just because private schools cost money doesn't always mean that children are going to be segregated, nor does it mean that the education is going to be of poor quality. Also, what if the child doesn't want to interact with the other children?

Since you haven't accounted for those two, I'm opposed to this.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:44 pm

Kyundao wrote:Just because private schools cost money doesn't always mean that children are going to be segregated, nor does it mean that the education is going to be of poor quality. Also, what if the child doesn't want to interact with the other children?

Since you haven't accounted for those two, I'm opposed to this.

So this is how I interpret this response—

School: You have to pay 100 thousand a year to go here.

Disadvantaged class excluded from socioeconomic opportunities on basis of skin colour: But I don't have 100 thousand.

School: Sucks to suck.

Me: Let's do something about that

Kyundao: But what if we pretend racism didn't exist?
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:21 pm

In any event, opposed. Scholarships for disadvantaged students who wish to attend fee-paying schools are commendable but broadly a domestic matter, and I most certainly do not support its being lumped in with a shadowban on homeschooling.
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Postby Deacarsia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:31 pm

I strongly oppose this proposal.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Deacarsia wrote:I strongly oppose this proposal.

OOC: From what I know, that, too, is a badge of honor.

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Postby Serbersia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:49 pm

"Forgive me if I am incorrect, Ambassador, but am I wrong in saying that School Segregation as referenced in your resolution when you say 'the exclusion of minority students from education with the majority population in separate educational facilities' is already prohibited by General Assembly Resolution 35?

Do I misunderstand the nature of this proposal? Is it attempting to micromanage the individual schools programmes themselves? They already may not discriminate on an institutional level as per Resolution 35."
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Postby Kyundao » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:52 am

Serbersia's right. This duplicates existing legislation, specifically section c of the first article in GA resolution #35. This entire proposal is illegal by default.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:59 am

Kyundao wrote:Serbersia's right. This duplicates existing legislation, specifically section c of the first article in GA resolution #35. This entire proposal is illegal by default.

Ooc: no, it isn't.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:21 am

"As sensible as most of this resolution is, I am entirely unconvinced that classroom bullying is a matter that this body needs to address."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:18 am

Bump.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:22 am

protected classes


Gender included?
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Postby Great Robertia » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:49 am

"The delegation from Great Robertia supports this resolution and its intent, and will gladly vote in favour once this motion inevitably reaches the floor.

We only had one question, Ambassador. When this resolution speaks of 'protected classes', does that also imply the inclusion of sexual orientation or gender? While I never considered my own sexuality to be a part of its own societal class, it may be that the definition in Great Robertia differs from your nation's.

Naturally, I understand that all rights and obligations conferred onto citizens in this motion are automatically conferred onto citizens belonging to any sexual minorities, through the working of the resolutions on that subject. Yet this question was more borne out of personal curiosity than concern for the content of this resolution draft, which in my humble opinion, has been expertly written."
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:02 am

Great Robertia wrote:"The delegation from Great Robertia supports this resolution and its intent, and will gladly vote in favour once this motion inevitably reaches the floor.

We only had one question, Ambassador. When this resolution speaks of 'protected classes', does that also imply the inclusion of sexual orientation or gender, as the delegation before me mentioned? While I never considered my own sexuality to be a part of its own societal class, it may be that the definition in Great Robertia differs from your nation's.

Naturally, I understand that all rights and obligations conferred onto citizens in this motion are automatically conferred onto citizens belonging to any sexual minorities, through the working of the resolutions on that subject. Yet this question was more borne out of personal curiosity than concern for the content of this resolution draft, which in my humble opinion, has been expertly written."

Just a note, I was speaking OOC, so you can't actually see what I said as your character
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Honeydewistania wrote:Just a note, I was speaking OOC, so you can't actually see what I said as your character


OOC: Apologies! Fixed it :)
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Postby Old Hope » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:11 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
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Ending School Segregation
Category: Education and Creativity | Area of Effect: Educational



[...]

[*]Rights of the child. Children have a right, by education, to develop competence to interact in a pluralistic society. Unless a child is physically unfit to attend a school or an undue hardship is imposed on the child by this requirement
... or on the other children? Some psychological abnormalities result in undue disruption of education.
, member states must to the best of their ability advance this goal through schooling; to that end, among other things, they shall prohibit segregation and self-segregation of students by parental income, race, religion, or other protected classes.
This looks like a good idea. It isn`t. It might force schools to seperate good friends based on them being of a similar income status, lower or higher... Including religion is an even more idiotic idea because these people not only share a common interest but this also de facto bans religious education by members of the religion even if they want to have it - it says STUDENTS here, not children! Bad clause.

[*]Ensuring school quality. Member nations shall ensure that educational services not under their direct control meet the same standards as those under their direct control on the following criteria: educational goals, facilities, instructors' training, and other standards that member nations may by law or resolution create. Member nations may not use accreditation in a way that encourages segregation by classes in section 1.
The last sentence is only problematic because clause 1 is problematic. The rest here is good enough.

[*]School authorities' duty to parents. Parents may, with the advice and consent of an administrative law (or other suitably empowered) officer, require school authorities to take action to prevent their children from being poorly treated by other children or staff on account of background, beliefs, and other rights protected by World Assembly legislation.
Depends on what poorly treated means, but this seems good.

[*]Clarification. In this resolution,
[*]resolution refers to World Assembly resolutions and
[*]parent includes guardians.

Opposed.
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Please for the love of god format this in a way that makes it readable; this is ludicrous.
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Tinfect wrote:OOC:
Please for the love of god format this in a way that makes it readable; this is ludicrous.


OOC: How is the format of the proposal unreadable? I could read it just fine.
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