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What do you self-describe as, economically?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:31 pm

Communist
22
11%
Socialist
56
28%
Social
35
17%
Centrist
31
15%
Market
20
10%
Capitalist
24
12%
Laissez-Faire
13
6%
 
Total votes : 201

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Cisairse
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Your political alignment (With a twist!)

Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:27 pm

It's been awhile since we had one of these threads, and I was recently recommended a new website that gives more meaningful results based on four axes: economic, diplomatic, civil, and societal. I'm curious what y'alls outcomes are.

Here's the website: https://8values.github.io/index.html

Here's my result:
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I agree with the sliders, but I disagree with "libertarian communism." I would self-describe as a libertarian democratic socialist, not a communist. The website does include a caveat that the sliders are more accurate than the ideology names.

I like the 4-axis result way more than the 2-axis political "compass." I think it paints a clearer picture of what my values actually are, and what my ideal society is. After taking it and seeing your results, do y'all agree?

The author also made another version with even more axes, called "9axes": https://9axes.github.io/

I personally don't like it as much, but here's my results of the long-form test if you want to compare:
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Update. There's an even better test based on a 3-axis model: https://lucasnorth.uk/sapply/

I like this test much more than the other ones. Here's my result, which I feel is perfectly accurate for my political views:

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I also took the left-wing test, which is socialist/communist specific and helps place you in the broader left-wing sphere. I feel that my results are accurate.
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If you're a leftist, you can take the test yourself here: https://leftvalues.github.io/
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Vetalia
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:38 pm

Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.05

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Auristania
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Postby Auristania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:41 pm

Revoulutionary Socialist fits me.

Results
Economic Axis: Social

72.4%
27.6%

Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic

72.2%
27.8%

Civil Axis: Moderate

58.7%
41.3%

Societal Axis: Progressive

39.4%
60.6%

Closest Match: Revolutionary Socialism
Ideological matching is a work in progress, and is much less accurate than the values and axes.
You can send these results by copying and pasting the URL at the top of the page or using the image below. Think your matched ideology was wrong? Want to help us calibrate the test? Send the results along with your political ideology to us at eightvalues@gmail.com, or send us any

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Postby Nakena » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:45 pm

Here's my results:

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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:49 pm

When you go extreme-

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:52 pm

Kowani wrote:When you go extreme-



99.6% revolutionary? Damn
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Postby Zeritae » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:52 pm

Kowani wrote:When you go extreme-


So anarchism of the Communist variety?
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:55 pm

8values is old news, 9axes is all the rage now.
I believe I scored Centrist on economics when I last took it, or maybe Social. It was pretty much around the middle.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:56 pm

Cekoviu wrote:8values is old news, 9axes is all the rage now.
I believe I scored Centrist on economics when I last took it, or maybe Social. It was pretty much around the middle.


Oh woah what? I gotta check this out
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:09 pm

I took the short 9axes test, and here's what I got:

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I mostly agree with these sliders except I wouldn't describe myself as a globalist by any stretch of the imagination. I am very much a staunch protectionist.

I'll take the longer one, and rework the OP a bit to include the new test.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:55 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Kowani wrote:When you go extreme-



99.6% revolutionary? Damn

This should come as a surprise to absolutely no one.

Zeritae wrote:
Kowani wrote:When you go extreme-


So anarchism of the Communist variety?

Ô. No.
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If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:28 pm

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 0.2&s=71.7

I'm considered to be a social liberal.
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Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:46 pm

Well, the result is:

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Postby Punainen Suomi » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:55 pm

My results seem to be more or less accurate:

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:21 pm

I made one of my friends take the 8values test and he got "Centrist."
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:45 pm

Cisairse wrote:I made one of my friends take the 8values test and he got "Centrist."


Banish him to the shadow realm.
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Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:54 pm

I hate these things. The questions are always loaded, vague, or misrepresenting and I get different results every time I try to wrap my head around some of them.

Just took the longer 216 question 9axes and it gave me some weird results, the only one I can fully say I am confident in was the 71% Democratic rating. The rest were either debatable or flat-out wrong. The problem with these tests is it's difficult to actually gauge one's political leanings when the only answers you can give are "Strongly Agree", "Agree", "Neutral/Unsure", "Disagree", and "Strongly Disagree". Those answers are too vague to gauge any information out of the more complicated questions.

Maybe I'll try the shorter one tomorrow and see if I can get clearer results.
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Postby South Ccanda » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:56 pm

So are we excluding Fascism or are we grouping them with socialists or whats going on?
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:57 pm

South Ccanda wrote:So are we excluding Fascism or are we grouping them with socialists or whats going on?


Do you mean w/r/t the poll? Is fascism outside one of those options...?

I copied and pasted the choices from the possible economic values from 8values.
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Postby The Sladerstan » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:01 pm

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My Political Views have evolved overtime, very much. I used to be a highly authoritarian type, not fascist, however. I was also for a Theocratic state, but now I'm for a Semi-Democratic Constitutional Aristocracy, and not a theocratic one.

My preferred Government is one where the Aristocrats act as representatives of the constitution, and they can't really change laws. They can do pretty basic things like raise or lower taxes, place tariffs, institute conscription, open or close borders, etc. But they cannot have so much power that they can overturn laws or oppress the people.

Aristocrats select people to replace them when they die, but the people of the nation can elect governors, mayors, judges, etc. So we're sort of democratic.
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Postby Othelos » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:13 pm

The Sladerstan wrote:(Image)
My Political Views have evolved overtime, very much. I used to be a highly authoritarian type, not fascist, however. I was also for a Theocratic state, but now I'm for a Semi-Democratic Constitutional Aristocracy, and not a theocratic one.

My preferred Government is one where the Aristocrats act as representatives of the constitution, and they can't really change laws. They can do pretty basic things like raise or lower taxes, place tariffs, institute conscription, open or close borders, etc. But they cannot have so much power that they can overturn laws or oppress the people.

Aristocrats select people to replace them when they die, but the people of the nation can elect governors, mayors, judges, etc. So we're sort of democratic.

Why would that be a good system?
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:16 pm

https://9axes.github.io/results.html?a= ... &h=69&i=11
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83 % Democratic (Extreme)
84 % Globalist (Extreme)
95 % Pacifist (Fanatic)
56 % Freedom (Neutral)
87 % Equality (Extreme)
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:16 pm

The Sladerstan wrote:(Image)
My Political Views have evolved overtime, very much. I used to be a highly authoritarian type, not fascist, however. I was also for a Theocratic state, but now I'm for a Semi-Democratic Constitutional Aristocracy, and not a theocratic one.

My preferred Government is one where the Aristocrats act as representatives of the constitution, and they can't really change laws. They can do pretty basic things like raise or lower taxes, place tariffs, institute conscription, open or close borders, etc. But they cannot have so much power that they can overturn laws or oppress the people.

Aristocrats select people to replace them when they die, but the people of the nation can elect governors, mayors, judges, etc. So we're sort of democratic.


Wait, in your system, what prevents the aristocracy from raising taxes to an excessive degree as a form of oppression? Or lower them to much that the civil government collapses?
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:23 pm

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values are about right, ideological matching is pretty wrong, since my most "neoliberal" position is "the government shouldn't spend money", but I guess it's so ill-defined and vague an ideology that it could fit
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