Araraukar wrote:Desmosthenes and Burke wrote:OOC: And encourage Ara to change his attitude immensely and do the basic research into actual practices (the primary writer should do so as well) instead of dismissing them as "something I think is stupid in general".
OOC: I'll never not think road tolls to be stupid. I think many things done by people and governments in RL are stupid. That doesn't mean I was incapable of incorprating them as mentions or reasons in a proposal. Also, the current proposal is perfectly applicable to systems with road tolls - their existence is indeed a big part of the reason for the proposal in the first place. So whether I think they're stupid or not, it has nothing to do with the proposal's contents.
Also, this got to vote at a time that was an inconvenient timing for both of us (IA's proposal having been withdrawn at the last minute), so we were perhaps a little less well prepared than we should have been, for the debate. Not that it or anything we say here, would have helped, given the delegate stomp right out of the gate. It would be useful if someone could post the reasons here, but then big delegacies rarely bother to tell anyone anything on the actual forums... which bafflingly includes IA.
OOC: The WALL delegates do generally discuss their reasoning, but since most of them aren't GA regulars, they have little reason to bother posting here.