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Postby Meritocratic Republic of Valprinia » Thu May 07, 2020 8:00 am

What should happen:
- The working week is restructured and the home becomes the workplace for many more people than it previously was.
- Extreme environmental policy changes
^ Strict carbon limits imposed by the UN with punishments ensuring that exceeding a carbon limit cannot be profitable
^ Major shifts in the electrification of vehicles as standard, perhaps having a delayed outlawing of the production of fossil-fuel-based vehicles
^ International treaty to prevent the construction of new energy production facilities that are not carbon-neutral
^ UN resolution to encourage renewable energy production
* Consideration of international renewable energy projects, such as large-scale solar harvesting in the Sahara Desert, offshore wind turbines in the North Sea, etc.
- Formation of a global food standards assessment team within the UN to ensure that food throughout the world is kept in safe conditions
- Global shift away from the standard model of dmeocracy to one which limits candidacy to those only who are actually capable, meaning people like Donald Trump and other such objectively incompetent people cannot take office, particularly in nations that have a dramatic impact on the world as a whole (IE: a shift towards meritocratic democracy)

What will probably happen:
- People will be a bit kinder for a couple of weeks then everything goes back to normal

Specific to the UK:
- All that clapping of the NHS will not translate to actual change to support them and the Conservatives will continue to systematically gut the system to privatise it over time.

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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Thu May 07, 2020 1:11 pm

"The times they are a changing"
I think Dylan may be right on this occasion.

Firstly: We have in front of us an exceptional opportunity to act upon the changes this pandemic has already wrought, which could bring about greater well-being for the public. I say we seize this opportunity.
Who is pushing us to "go back to normal"?? Those that made fast and cheap profits at the expense of the well-being of others. The old "normal" was shite for many people. An endless cycle of grinding through the week stuck in the same patterns of work scheduling that we have observed for generations. We sought comfort and happiness in unfulfilling activities and means which left us increasingly prone to psychological ailment. The work itself was also deeply unsatisfying, grey jobs in grey buildings. How many of you have actually found some solace and cheer in all this mess? The change of pace in life, the opportunity to discover and enjoy what is right at hand, something tangible? I'm working with a team examining just that phenomenon in Europe, and so far this is mostly what we have observed, even in areas hit hard and locked down tight for weeks.
The "information revolution", to borrow a term, is still accelerating but our societies are still clunking along in ways increasingly becoming incompatible. Here we have the opportunity to change that, adopting older societal practices from the past and modernising or creating others.

Secondly: We are observing changes on national and international political levels the outcomes and ramifications of we can't even begin to fathom. Many governments have found themselves in hot water over their handling of the situation which could just be the tipping point to see them ousted especially when this virus compounds their other failings. We also have stark truths to be addressed, notably among them is the unsustainable reliance on China to produce goods. We have to ask if the cheap ticket is really worth it and save ourselves from repeating the mistakes of the past.

Lastly we have a moment to consider that if we "go back to normal" we're going to continue to run into problems like this (and worse) as we continue to burn the planet. So this is a chance to decide to take our own boot away from our collective throats.
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Global ramifications of the coronavirus crisis

Postby Deacarsia » Thu May 07, 2020 1:25 pm

China will become a global pariah. Neoliberalism will be dead, and nationalism will be on the rise.
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Postby Green October Z » Thu May 07, 2020 1:27 pm

Deacarsia wrote:China will become a global pariah. Neoliberalism will be dead, and nationalism will be on the rise.


Don't know about China becoming a global pariah. The West will certainly be at least slightly less trusting of them, but the Chinese can always count on their colonies in the third world to support them.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 07, 2020 4:32 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:China will become a global pariah. Neoliberalism will be dead, and nationalism will be on the rise.


Don't know about China becoming a global pariah. The West will certainly be at least slightly less trusting of them, but the Chinese can always count on their colonies in the third world to support them.


Not after this. Thousands of people died thanks to their bullshit, and I'm sure kicking black people out of China didn't make them any more popular with Africa and Latin America.
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Postby Green October Z » Thu May 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
Don't know about China becoming a global pariah. The West will certainly be at least slightly less trusting of them, but the Chinese can always count on their colonies in the third world to support them.


Not after this. Thousands of people died thanks to their bullshit, and I'm sure kicking black people out of China didn't make them any more popular with Africa and Latin America.


There will still be plenty of corrupt leaders that would be just fine with living in luxury off Chinese money with their people suffer and are treated as subhumans.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu May 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:China will become a global pariah. Neoliberalism will be dead, and nationalism will be on the rise.


Don't know about China becoming a global pariah. The West will certainly be at least slightly less trusting of them, but the Chinese can always count on their colonies in the third world to support them.

We said that after Tiananmen, and look where we are. Made in China is probably on your shirt, pants, computer, and keyboard.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 07, 2020 5:23 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Not after this. Thousands of people died thanks to their bullshit, and I'm sure kicking black people out of China didn't make them any more popular with Africa and Latin America.


There will still be plenty of corrupt leaders that would be just fine with living in luxury off Chinese money with their people suffer and are treated as subhumans.


This is why we need a global Hong Kong protest. The government won't stand up so China, so the mob must.
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