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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:29 pm

Godular wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:Did the Maorī support this bill?


*Reads up on Maori views on abortion, finds historical articles on subject*

I'm... not entirely sure you want to go that route.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/273782/

Man, I feel angry whenever societies just flat-out treat individuals as disposables.
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:13 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
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*Reads up on Maori views on abortion, finds historical articles on subject*

I'm... not entirely sure you want to go that route.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/273782/

Man, I feel angry whenever societies just flat-out treat individuals as disposables.


That’s pretty much everybody, at some point.
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Postby New Bremerton » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:21 am

EUREKA!

I just realized that late-term "abortions" may qualify as artificially-induced premature births if we accept the idea that fetuses born more than six months into a pregnancy have a small chance of survival. Late-term "abortions" are exceedingly rare because they need not exist by definition! My position is much clearer now. Abortions should never, EVER be legally restricted under ANY circumstances.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:33 am

New Bremerton wrote:EUREKA!

I just realized that late-term "abortions" may qualify as artificially-induced premature births if we accept the idea that fetuses born more than six months into a pregnancy have a small chance of survival. Late-term "abortions" are exceedingly rare because they need not exist by definition! My position is much clearer now. Abortions should never, EVER be legally restricted under ANY circumstances.


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Postby Godular » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:50 am

New Bremerton wrote:EUREKA!

I just realized that late-term "abortions" may qualify as artificially-induced premature births if we accept the idea that fetuses born more than six months into a pregnancy have a small chance of survival. Late-term "abortions" are exceedingly rare because they need not exist by definition! My position is much clearer now. Abortions should never, EVER be legally restricted under ANY circumstances.


Rock on, friendo.

If this decision was based on the recent argument about late-term abortions and how an 'unborn child' is the same before and after taking its first breath (and the distinction being largely irrelevant because non-lethal forms of abortion exist for such instances), then I choose to revel in the irony in a wholly non-derogatory way.

The distinction being irrelevant... was relevant for somebody. Hee!
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Postby New Bremerton » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:11 pm

Godular wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:EUREKA!

I just realized that late-term "abortions" may qualify as artificially-induced premature births if we accept the idea that fetuses born more than six months into a pregnancy have a small chance of survival. Late-term "abortions" are exceedingly rare because they need not exist by definition! My position is much clearer now. Abortions should never, EVER be legally restricted under ANY circumstances.


Rock on, friendo.

If this decision was based on the recent argument about late-term abortions and how an 'unborn child' is the same before and after taking its first breath (and the distinction being largely irrelevant because non-lethal forms of abortion exist for such instances), then I choose to revel in the irony in a wholly non-derogatory way.

The distinction being irrelevant... was relevant for somebody. Hee!


My previous position was that *maybe* doctors and nurses should be fined for performing late-term "abortions". Maybe. But the woman should never, EVER be judged or punished.
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Postby Godular » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 pm

New Bremerton wrote:
Godular wrote:
Rock on, friendo.

If this decision was based on the recent argument about late-term abortions and how an 'unborn child' is the same before and after taking its first breath (and the distinction being largely irrelevant because non-lethal forms of abortion exist for such instances), then I choose to revel in the irony in a wholly non-derogatory way.

The distinction being irrelevant... was relevant for somebody. Hee!


My previous position was that *maybe* doctors and nurses should be fined for performing late-term "abortions". Maybe. But the woman should never, EVER be judged or punished.


Ah, I gotcha.
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Postby New Bremerton » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:29 pm

Godular wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:
My previous position was that *maybe* doctors and nurses should be fined for performing late-term "abortions". Maybe. But the woman should never, EVER be judged or punished.


Ah, I gotcha.


And the position I held before that was that abortions should never, EVER be legally restricted under ANY circumstances. So it's nothing, really. I'm simply reverting back to my original position. I've always been pro-choice my entire life, except when I was forced to write an essay detailing my (as yet undeveloped) views on abortion as part of a middle school assignment.
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Postby Godular » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:37 pm

New Bremerton wrote:
Godular wrote:
Ah, I gotcha.


And the position I held before that was that abortions should never, EVER be legally restricted under ANY circumstances. So it's nothing, really. I'm simply reverting back to my original position. I've always been pro-choice my entire life, except when I was forced to write an essay detailing my (as yet undeveloped) views on abortion as part of a middle school assignment.


Oo... I can bet that got contentious.
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