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(DRAFT) Age of consent

Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:08 am

age of consent
A resolution to protect child

Strongly acting on its duty to the protection of child,

Believing that child should be free from abuse,

Aware that child are unable to make good choices about sex,

But also aware that people have the right to sex,

Understanding that non-human species vary from country to country and therefore we will decline to legislate on them,

understanding that most organized faiths agree that sex should not occur before marriage,

balancing these things,

The WA sets the age of consent at 16 years old,

This age of consent shall not apply to non-human species
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Postby British Common » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:14 am

Age of consent should be 14.

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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:16 am

British Common wrote:Age of consent should be 14.


way too young!

Would you support putting 14 year olds in adult prisons?

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Cool

Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:19 am

Okay cool
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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:25 am

British Common wrote:Age of consent should be 14.


FINE, I CHANGED IT TO 16!

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Postby Emadistan » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:28 am

NOFEAR wrote:
British Common wrote:Age of consent should be 14.


FINE, I CHANGED IT TO 16!

So 2 years will prepare kids to fend off adult convicts?

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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:32 am

Emadistan wrote:
NOFEAR wrote:
FINE, I CHANGED IT TO 16!

So 2 years will prepare kids to fend off adult convicts?


No but they will be more able to make good sexual choices
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Postby Eskavashan » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:37 am

NOFEAR wrote:age of consent
A resolution to protect children

Strongly acting on its duty to the protection of children,

Believing that children should be free from abuse,

Aware that children are unable to make good choices about sex,

But also aware that people have the right to sex,

balancing these things,

The WA sets the age of consent at 16 years old,

understanding that most organized faiths agree that sex should not occur before marriage,

Hi!!! DRUS here. In your draft, you have said child instead of children. All of the bold ren is where you should add a ren to make the word children and gramatically correct

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Postby The Strangers Club » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:41 am

Let's be honest to ourselves, most kids have probably already had sex multiple times before they hit 18, partner that with most countries in the world (including some U.S. states) having lower ages of consent. I would think that 16 would only be natural, especially with kids these days maturing faster than past generations. Just my opinion btw, I mean in my nation, the age of consent is 16 (though that is probably because my death rate is very high) so I don't see a problem with it personally.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:12 am

Illegal for contradiction of GA resolution #299 'Legal Competence': Setting any such thresholds is explicitly stated there to be a matter for the individual nations, rather than something which the WA can do.
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Bears Armed wrote:Illegal for contradiction of GA resolution #299 'Legal Competence': Setting any such thresholds is explicitly stated there to be a matter for the individual nations, rather than something which the WA can do.


Not to mention #383, which bears more directly on this topic than the more general #299
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Postby Duravia » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:09 am

Age of consent should be 18

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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:13 am

Duravia wrote:Age of consent should be 18

I agree Personally, And that was in my original resolution, but, we have to reach a compromise that works for everyone and as there is currently no age of consent, setting when would be a huge milestones. Once again, I personally agree with you and I was in the original resolution, but we have to compromise and find something that all GA members will support!

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Postby Marche Verte-Bleu » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:22 am

NOFEAR wrote:
Duravia wrote:Age of consent should be 18

I agree Personally, And that was in my original resolution, but, we have to reach a compromise that works for everyone and as there is currently no age of consent, setting when would be a huge milestones. Once again, I personally agree with you and I was in the original resolution, but we have to compromise and find something that all GA members will support!


Ambassador, how does this address non-human sapient species, of which may undergo different biological changes in sexual maturity and the development of adulthood?
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Postby Atlantarctica » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:24 am

Considering that most people reach full maturity by age 25, I believe it's best that the age of consent is placed at the age of 20.
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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:31 am

Marche Verte-Bleu wrote:
NOFEAR wrote:I agree Personally, And that was in my original resolution, but, we have to reach a compromise that works for everyone and as there is currently no age of consent, setting when would be a huge milestones. Once again, I personally agree with you and I was in the original resolution, but we have to compromise and find something that all GA members will support!


Ambassador, how does this address non-human sapient species, of which may undergo different biological changes in sexual maturity and the development of adulthood?


That is a matter of individual states as it is not about the protection of humans

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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:32 am

Atlantarctica wrote:Considering that most people reach full maturity by age 25, I believe it's best that the age of consent is placed at the age of 20.


I agree the age consent should be higher than 16, but if you want meaningful reform, we’re going to have to compromise. Currently, there is no age of consent.

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Postby Marche Verte-Bleu » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:33 am

NOFEAR wrote:
Atlantarctica wrote:Considering that most people reach full maturity by age 25, I believe it's best that the age of consent is placed at the age of 20.


I agree the age consent should be higher than 16, but if you want meaningful reform, we’re going to have to compromise. Currently, there is no age of consent.


Doesn't GA legislation indicate mandatory reasonable ages of consent for all WA members?
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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:33 am

Marche Verte-Bleu wrote:
NOFEAR wrote:
I agree the age consent should be higher than 16, but if you want meaningful reform, we’re going to have to compromise. Currently, there is no age of consent.


Doesn't GA legislation indicate mandatory reasonable ages of consent for all WA members?


There is no mandatory reasonable age, it just says biologically appropriate which is open to vague interpretation.

You could argue as some others have in this thread that you are not biologically appropriate until 25, or you could argue that once you hit the age of puberty or for girls your first period. That you are biologically ready. It’s too open to interpretation.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:36 am

NOFEAR wrote:
Marche Verte-Bleu wrote:
Doesn't GA legislation indicate mandatory reasonable ages of consent for all WA members?


There is no mandatory reasonable age, it just says biologically appropriate which is open to vague interpretation.

You could argue as some others have in this thread that you are not biologically appropriate until 25, or you could argue that once you hit the age of puberty or for girls your first period. That you are biologically ready. It’s too open to interpretation.

"That sounds like a concern profoundly linked to domestic cultural, legal, and social concerns, and not a rallying cry for a universal age that ignores such factors."

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:37 am

So now a species whose life expectancy is 1000 years (what is a year anyway? A Pluto year? A Saturn year?) is commanded by you to acknowledge their 16 year old infants as adults (that's an equivalent of 1.6 years in human years ftr). This is called one-size-fits-none ambassador.
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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:40 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
NOFEAR wrote:
There is no mandatory reasonable age, it just says biologically appropriate which is open to vague interpretation.

You could argue as some others have in this thread that you are not biologically appropriate until 25, or you could argue that once you hit the age of puberty or for girls your first period. That you are biologically ready. It’s too open to interpretation.

"That sounds like a concern profoundly linked to domestic cultural, legal, and social concerns, and not a rallying cry for a universal age that ignores such factors."



It is a rallying cry, as we can all agree that a 10-year-old or 12-year-old should not be of the age of consent, we can all agree that a 16-year-old Is able to make that decision. In those concerns will be adequately addressed in the drafting of this resolution

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Postby NOFEAR » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:41 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So now a species whose life expectancy is 1000 years (what is a year anyway? A Pluto year? A Saturn year?) is commanded by you to acknowledge their 16 year old infants as adults (that's an equivalent of 1.6 years in human years ftr). This is called one-size-fits-none ambassador.



Already responded to this point, but I will do it again, this does not apply to non-humans

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Postby Marche Verte-Bleu » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:41 am

NOFEAR wrote:
Marche Verte-Bleu wrote:
Doesn't GA legislation indicate mandatory reasonable ages of consent for all WA members?


There is no mandatory reasonable age, it just says biologically appropriate which is open to vague interpretation.

You could argue as some others have in this thread that you are not biologically appropriate until 25, or you could argue that once you hit the age of puberty or for girls your first period. That you are biologically ready. It’s too open to interpretation.


§2 of GAR#299 states that it "Requires all member nations to have clear and fair rules about when and how a person becomes recognised as possessing Legal Competence within their jurisdiction..." and continues to state "The only criteria that can be used for denying a person Legal Competence are immaturity (defined by chronological age and/or psychological testing), mental illness, very low intelligence, or physical injuries or illnesses that currently make it impossible for that person to exercise informed consent;"

There appears to be required reasonable ages of consent based on biological factors and psychological factors, presuming you don't repeal this. 10 year or 12 year old ages of consent are not valid under GAR#299. If your intent is well-meant, it should stay that way.
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