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Outer Sparta
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:16 pm

You'll definitely see this issue be added. It's very solid and you put in a lot of great work.
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Postby Apabeossie » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:34 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:You'll definitely see this issue be added. It's very solid and you put in a lot of great work.

Others did a lot of the work though. :P

Is this ready for submission?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:36 pm

Apabeossie wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:You'll definitely see this issue be added. It's very solid and you put in a lot of great work.

Others did a lot of the work though. :P

Is this ready for submission?

Definitely. If this issue doesn't get added I will quit NS :p

But anyways I wish you luck!
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Postby Aurhany » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:56 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Apabeossie wrote:Others did a lot of the work though. :P

Is this ready for submission?

Definitely. If this issue doesn't get added I will quit NS :p

But anyways I wish you luck!

Thanks Sparta! (noticed I was in a different account :P)

Anyone in for final feedback before this issue gets submitted?
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Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:25 pm

I'll just add some small things:
Option 2: "Wait, the parents left children ALONE at home?" cries @@RANDOMNAME@@, with @@HIS@@ tired and uninterested children behind @@HIM@@ on a leash. "If these kids weren’t left at home alone, this situation would never have happened! You should mandate that children have at least one adult protector with them 24/7 who can get them out in an emergency. It's the only way to keep them safe."
This feels a bit redundant, since they're the same words the speaker just used. What about "unguarded like that" or something similar?
The "children on a leash" thing still feels like too much to me, though that's a concern I've already raised — for me, it almost brings to mind an abusive situation.
Option 3: "Hallo @@LEADER@@, I've heard zat you're having izzues with fire..." says scientist @@RANDOMNAME@@, holding a large drone labelled (fire)fighter. "All zis could be easier with firefighting drones zat can carry powder to put off fire, and ja, even find children using cameras. ve von't need to risk losing lives vith drones. Throw some funding to drone development. This new technology vill save lives."
Just a missing capital letter. :) Also, I'll a little confused by the "(fire)fighter" thing; if it's a joke, it doesn't quite land for me — I feel like just "firefighter" would work better.

Kudos for sticking with this draft, by the way; I hope it gets added. :)
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Postby Apabeossie » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:31 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:I'll just add some small things:
Option 2: "Wait, the parents left children ALONE at home?" cries @@RANDOMNAME@@, with @@HIS@@ tired and uninterested children behind @@HIM@@ on a leash. "If these kids weren’t left at home alone, this situation would never have happened! You should mandate that children have at least one adult protector with them 24/7 who can get them out in an emergency. It's the only way to keep them safe."
This feels a bit redundant, since they're the same words the speaker just used. What about "unguarded like that" or something similar?

Unwatched... Would that also be a good word? ;P
Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:The "children on a leash" thing still feels like too much to me, though that's a concern I've already raised — for me, it almost brings to mind an abusive situation.

The leashes demonstrate the "overcaring parent" here(to the point some might call abusive), and I'm just hoping it's not around the neck!
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Option 3: "Hallo @@LEADER@@, I've heard zat you're having izzues with fire..." says scientist @@RANDOMNAME@@, holding a large drone labelled (fire)fighter. "All zis could be easier with firefighting drones zat can carry powder to put off fire, and ja, even find children using cameras. ve von't need to risk losing lives vith drones. Throw some funding to drone development. This new technology vill save lives."
Just a missing capital letter. :) Also, I'll a little confused by the "(fire)fighter" thing; if it's a joke, it doesn't quite land for me — I feel like just "firefighter" would work better.

Kudos for sticking with this draft, by the way; I hope it gets added. :)

That was a bit of humour there; (fire)fighter indicates a 'fighter drone' relabelled. Is there a better way to demonstrate that? Or can we remove it?

Anyway Thanks Auth-Imp! :D
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Postby Apabeossie » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:01 pm

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:
Apabeossie wrote:Just mandate that all, yes, all objects be fire-resistant.


I'd personally drop the "yes" part.

That was for emphasizing the 'all' part, how would 'all, yes all' do? or any alternatives.
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Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:49 pm

Apabeossie wrote:
Nooooooooooooooo wrote:
I'd personally drop the "yes" part.

That was for emphasizing the 'all' part, how would 'all, yes all' do? or any alternatives.

I just feel like dropping the "yes" would make the idea crazier, the way fourth options usually are.

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Postby Cretox State » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:16 pm

I can't think of any outstanding changes that need to be made, and this is overall a really solid issue!
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:32 pm

Cretox State wrote:I can't think of any outstanding changes that need to be made, and this is overall a really solid issue!

Which is why I said I would quit NS if this issue doesn't get accepted.
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:38 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Cretox State wrote:I can't think of any outstanding changes that need to be made, and this is overall a really solid issue!

Which is why I said I would quit NS if this issue doesn't get accepted.

...And we just can't lose the mans himself, Outer Sparta!

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Postby Cretox State » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:49 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Cretox State wrote:I can't think of any outstanding changes that need to be made, and this is overall a really solid issue!

Which is why I said I would quit NS if this issue doesn't get accepted.

I know! :P
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Postby Apabeossie » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:39 pm

This is nearing submission! I just want to say thank you for everyone who helped me in this draft. This wouldn't have been possible without your feedback.

I already asked in the GI discord, but in case this needs to be fixed:

says scientist @@RANDOMNAME@@, holding a large drone labelled (fire)fighter.


Some people were confused by this part. Here (fire)fighter indicates a 'fighter drone' relabelled, which may or may not make immediate sense. Is there a better way to express that?
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:48 pm

Apabeossie wrote:This is nearing submission! I just want to say thank you for everyone who helped me in this draft. This wouldn't have been possible without your feedback.

I already asked in the GI discord, but in case this needs to be fixed:

says scientist @@RANDOMNAME@@, holding a large drone labelled (fire)fighter.


Some people were confused by this part. Here (fire)fighter indicates a 'fighter drone' relabelled, which may or may not make immediate sense. Is there a better way to express that?

Maybe italicize "fire", or use some other formatting?

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Postby Apabeossie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:40 am

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:
Apabeossie wrote:This is nearing submission! I just want to say thank you for everyone who helped me in this draft. This wouldn't have been possible without your feedback.

I already asked in the GI discord, but in case this needs to be fixed:



Some people were confused by this part. Here (fire)fighter indicates a 'fighter drone' relabelled, which may or may not make immediate sense. Is there a better way to express that?

Maybe italicize "fire", or use some other formatting?

Yeah, I was thinking of that. Will I also need parentheses?
Last edited by Apabeossie on Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:57 pm

Apabeossie wrote:
Nooooooooooooooo wrote:Maybe italicize "fire", or use some other formatting?

Yeah, I was thinkong of that. Will I also need parentheses?

Possibly.

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Postby Apabeossie » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:25 pm

After we fix the confusion in option 3, this will be submitted.

  • (fire)fighter -Noooooooooooo
  • a drone labelled 'fighter' with 'fire' hastily added to the beginning -trimmed down, originally by New Ciencia
  • a fighter drone hastily relabelled 'firefighter'
  • a fighter drone hastily converted for firefighting -Sherp
  • a drone covered in fire-themed doodles - Auth-Imp
  • a red-colored drone with a helmet on top
  • esperately trying to extinguish a burning drone. - Cretox
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“Even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise.” -Les Mis Finale

Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
AMAB ❌
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Postby Apabeossie » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:30 am

i have to be so indecisive on this one, better get the best joke before passing it into submission.
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
AMAB ❌
Apab ✅


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Postby Apabeossie » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:19 pm

or I should just choose one myself as the suggested jokes are quite good, and I'm tired of myself being like this. :P
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:32 pm

Apabeossie wrote:or I should just choose one myself as the suggested jokes are quite good, and I'm tired of myself being like this. :P

Maybe just submit right now? It'll be an issue anyway and the editors will probably insert a few jokes.
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Postby Apabeossie » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:26 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Apabeossie wrote:or I should just choose one myself as the suggested jokes are quite good, and I'm tired of myself being like this. :P

Maybe just submit right now? It'll be an issue anyway and the editors will probably insert a few jokes.

That is indeed a better option. (was thinking of that :P) Submitting before Halloween when I'm ready.
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
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Postby Apabeossie » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:52 am

Submitting within a day.
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
AMAB ❌
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Postby Apabeossie » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:46 am

So, this is submitted after 9 months, only around 1~2 months of which was actually spent actively discussing.

Thank you for all feedbacks that made the final draft possible! I'm grateful for everyone who made the issue better -- and surprised how little of my writing was good enough to make it.

special thanks to:
Verdant
CWA
Authoritaria-Imperia

and everyone else

I took too time to make an easy decision -- so I guess I'll learn from that.
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Yahlia wrote:Surely everyone likes penguins? Who doesn't like penguins? I refuse to believe there are people out there who have an opinion of them worse than 'indifferent'

Einswenn wrote:For me it always was and is obscure why would people be so blind and shortsighted to allow themselves unsolicited hate. I’ve already posted this before: take care of your own life, live your own life, and don’t tell the others how they should live theirs

Dizgovzy wrote:Please go read a book or play outside instead of spending your youth behind a computer screen. Don’t waste your time on this site.

New Skandenivia wrote:AFAB ❌
AMAB ❌
Apab ✅

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