Vistulange wrote:Insaanistan wrote:We all go to the same heaven. But because A, B, and C have different lives. They must do different things to attain it. The poor person must do less and is able to do less to get to heaven. The richer person is able to do more, so he must do more.
Which comes back to what I am saying. The wealthy person, by virtue of being born to a place where he will naturally be predisposed to be wealthier than the poorest in the world, has more burden placed on his shoulders just to get the same reward as the poorest.Insaanistan wrote:Additionally, there are seven levels of heaven.
So sayeth Ibn Abbas, some random Arab tribesman who happens to be a relative of Mohammad; not the Quran, so this is bullshit, not to mention that the concept of different levels of heaven is logically incompatible with everybody going to the same heaven. Tossing it right out. Alternatively, relatives of Mohammad are also somehow sources of Islam, despite the Quran itself stating otherwise:An-Nahl, 16:89 wrote:And [mention] the Day when We will resurrect among every nation a witness over them from themselves. And We will bring you, [O Muhammad], as a witness over your nation. And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.
Let's repeat that: "... And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things". Clarification for all things. Ergo, there should not be a thing that the Quran does not explain. Therefore, I should not need some Arab tribesman to explain something to me, because the Quran already proclaims to do so. But let's look further.Al-An'am, 6:110 wrote:And We will turn away their hearts and their eyes just as they refused to believe in it the first time. And We will leave them in their transgression, wandering blindly.
Oh, look. Some infidels who are permanently being renderred unable to convert by divine intervention, thus condemning them to eternal hellfire. Anyway, this is a digression meant to put the following in context. What we want is Al-An'am, verse 114:Al-An'am, 6:114 wrote:[Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.
So, again, we have the Book being "explained in detail". In fact, as an-Nahl came after al-An'am, God is simply reiterating and reinforcing the exclusively sufficient nature of the Quran.Insaanistan wrote:A rich person who gave 5% every year out of duty to God and goodness in his heart can go to the highest level heaven, and be with the poor person who simply lived his life as best he could and was thankful to God for what little he had.
Addressed why this was rubbish, moving on.Insaanistan wrote:What a soul can bear is not simply they have been scarred. Everyone’s situation could somehow get worse.
And yet, that does not mean that you should subject them to abuse in the first place.Insaanistan wrote:You think I don’t want the Sierra Leonian fed? Many of my family members used live like him. Some still do.
What you want is not what we are discussing here; we are discussing what your God wants. He doesn't seem to be inclined to feed them.Insaanistan wrote:And as I have said before, if those billionaires were giving zakat and sadaqa, his situation would not be nearly as bad.
And yet, they aren't. God, having demonstrated his capacity and willingness to interfere in human minds and actions - refer to 6:110 - is refraining from acting when he obviously can.Insaanistan wrote:And as for the one about pregnant women:
https://www.livescience.com/amp/8146-pr ... blems.html
Read your sources before posting them.Livescience.com wrote:"We know for sure that sex steroids at high levels can have damaging effects on neurons," Farrar told LiveScience, though she added that it's impossible to know if this is indeed the case from this study alone.
Emphasis mine.Livescience.com wrote:"We can't really check to see what's happening, so it's pretty difficult really," Farrar said. "We can only speculate that it could be the sex steroid levels that are affecting cognitive function."
Emphasis mine.Livescience.com wrote:Farrar noted that not all pregnant women will experience this decline in memory. But for those who do seem to think they're having more memory problems as their pregnancy progresses, it might help if scientists could determine that it was a normal reaction that dissipated after birth.
Emphasis mine.
Try again.
He has to do more for the same reward, because he has the ability to do more. If a kid with asthma runs 1/10 of a mile in late spring, why should he not get a bigger reaction from the PE teacher than a student with no health complications who did the same. Yes, you ran, good job, but you can do more than the kid with asthma.
Read Qur’ân verses 2:29 and 78:12. Maybe that will jog your memory on where Ibn Ābbas got that idea.
There is no problem with the Qur’ân. The problem is us: we are not 7th century Arabs. Despite this being the first time Islam was revealed as a religion for all of mankind, it still was revealed to the Arabs. Why? Possibly, you have noticed that many Arabs seem to see themselves as better than other Muslims because the Qur’ân was revealed to them. However, it is quite the opposite: God reveals his message to whomever needs it most. So, why should you understand all the references? When the Qur’ân says, “stop burying babies just because their female”, and you don’t know what it’s talking about, that doesn’t make it invalid.
I don’t understand what you are trying to say here. You didn’t refute any of my claims on memory loss and pregnancy. You just did what all “Islamists” and Islamophobes do: cherrypick.
Since you obviously need more convincing:
https://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditi ... index.html
https://amp.theguardian.com/science/200 ... .pregnancy
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 1.html?amp