Utah Bans Conversion Therapy

[Auze]

This is still going on in 31 states. Much like Saudi Arabia legalizing women driving, I find it hard to celebrate because it's goddamn 2020.

I'm not sure why we are suddenly obligated to have every progressive reform because the year is 2020. It's been barely 100 years since women got the right to vote.

[San Lumen]

This is still going on in 31 states. Much like Saudi Arabia legalizing women driving, I find it hard to celebrate because it's goddamn 2020.

I'm not sure why we are suddenly obligated to have every progressive reform because the year is 2020. It's been barely 100 years since women got the right to vote.

Exactly there are still many places in the county were same sex marriage and adoption is frowned upon and one can be fired or evicted from their apartment for being gay

[The Huskar Social Union]

Good.

[Loben The 2nd]

I'm not sure why we are suddenly obligated to have every progressive reform because the year is 2020. It's been barely 100 years since women got the right to vote.

Exactly there are still many places in the county were same sex marriage and adoption is frowned upon and one can be fired or evicted from their apartment for being gay

how do you plan on solving that?

[The Black Forrest]

Exactly there are still many places in the county were same sex marriage and adoption is frowned upon and one can be fired or evicted from their apartment for being gay

how do you plan on solving that?

Laws and regulations...you know oppress their religion.

[Loben The 2nd]

how do you plan on solving that?

Laws and regulations...you know oppress their religion.

not what im going for.

im thinking the more educational approach.

[The Black Forrest]

Laws and regulations...you know oppress their religion.

not what im going for.

im thinking the more educational approach.

It won’t work in heavy religious areas. It would take at least 10 years and that’s being rather generous.

[San Lumen]

Exactly there are still many places in the county were same sex marriage and adoption is frowned upon and one can be fired or evicted from their apartment for being gay

how do you plan on solving that?

You don’t have too. Clergy should not be forced to marry someone they don’t want too. County clerks should not have the right to refuse as they government employees and neither should LGBT people be prevented from adopting no matter what county they are in

[The Rich Port]

I think it says a lot that there is a schism... In Utah, between the governor, and a bunch of nutjob Senators defending "freedom of religion" (but not the freedom to choose your sexuality).

I ask the Mormons to please support their governor and put an end to this fringe nutjob nonsense. Isn't it bad enough there's fundamentalists in the desert marrying children and practicing polygamy with same children?

[Senkaku]

This is still going on in 31 states. Much like Saudi Arabia legalizing women driving, I find it hard to celebrate because it's goddamn 2020.

I'm not sure why we are suddenly obligated to have every progressive reform because the year is 2020. It's been barely 100 years since women got the right to vote.

Well we were supposed to actually do it all at once back then but there was a scheduling mix-up and now we have to have like a billion different make-up appointments to do each item on the list

[Eotenses]

I'm seeing a trend lately and I am very much liking it.

[The Sherpa Empire]

Surprising to see this from Utah, but I support banning conversion therapy. There have been too many issues with child abuse being passed off as "therapy."

[The Rich Port]

not what im going for.

im thinking the more educational approach.

It won’t work in heavy religious areas. It would take at least 10 years and that’s being rather generous.

And that's not even accounting for the Mormon Church's tolerance for what it sees as heresy.

There's still fundamentalist cult enclaves out there in Utah, most likely doing perverse things in secret, and the Church seems to not care.

Homosexuality being a sin is part of their teachings. If they don't react progressively to polygamy and pedophilia, I doubt they're going to be progressive about this.

[San Lumen]

I think it says a lot that there is a schism... In Utah, between the governor, and a bunch of nutjob Senators defending "freedom of religion" (but not the freedom to choose your sexuality).

I ask the Mormons to please support their governor and put an end to this fringe nutjob nonsense. Isn't it bad enough there's fundamentalists in the desert marrying children and practicing polygamy with same children?

The Governor did outlaw it with his executive order.

Utah is doing something about those cults. One of their leaders was arrested and imprisoned several years ago and is serving a life sentence. Warren Jeff is his name and he is a scary individual.

[The Rich Port]

I think it says a lot that there is a schism... In Utah, between the governor, and a bunch of nutjob Senators defending "freedom of religion" (but not the freedom to choose your sexuality).

I ask the Mormons to please support their governor and put an end to this fringe nutjob nonsense. Isn't it bad enough there's fundamentalists in the desert marrying children and practicing polygamy with same children?

The Governor did outlaw it with his executive order.

Utah is doing something about those cults. One of their leaders was arrested and imprisoned several years ago and is serving a life sentence. Warren Jeff is his name and he is a scary individual.

I'm intimately familiar with the story, I've been following the Mormon Church's insanity since the South Park episode.

Those cults are still there, even if their leaders are locked up.

The FLDS Church in particular had their assets seized in Texas, but their main bases in Utah remain intact, and their bizarre practices continue uninterrupted.

[San Lumen]

The Governor did outlaw it with his executive order.

Utah is doing something about those cults. One of their leaders was arrested and imprisoned several years ago and is serving a life sentence. Warren Jeff is his name and he is a scary individual.

I'm intimately familiar with the story, I've been following the Mormon Church's insanity since the South Park episode.

Those cults are still there, even if their leaders are locked up.

The FLDS Church in particular had their assets seized in Texas, but their main bases in Utah remain intact, and their bizarre practices continue uninterrupted.

Im not sure what if anything the state can do about it. There must be a reason they haven't raided their bases.

[The Rich Port]

I'm intimately familiar with the story, I've been following the Mormon Church's insanity since the South Park episode.

Those cults are still there, even if their leaders are locked up.

The FLDS Church in particular had their assets seized in Texas, but their main bases in Utah remain intact, and their bizarre practices continue uninterrupted.

Im not sure what if anything the state can do about it. There must be a reason they haven't raided their bases.

Because the Church tolerates them so long as they don't make waves.

If I were a Mormon, I would protest and bring attention to their existence.

I realize Mormons are polite to a fault, but pedophilia and polygamy are nothing to be polite about.

[San Lumen]

Im not sure what if anything the state can do about it. There must be a reason they haven't raided their bases.

Because the Church tolerates them so long as they don't make waves.

If I were a Mormon, I would protest and bring attention to their existence.

I realize Mormons are polite to a fault, but pedophilia and polygamy are nothing to be polite about.

How and why was Jeffs arrested then?