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Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX

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Would you support a Chinese-Style lockdown in your country to contain the Coronavirus?

Yes
157
48%
No
125
38%
Unsure
46
14%
 
Total votes : 328

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Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX

Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:32 pm


Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of RWDT


What I am about to set forth, then, is our system from the two points of view, that of ourselves and that of the NORMIES [i.e., non-reactionaries].

Remember to keep to topics related to right-wing politics- whilst the conversation may naturally meander around such areas as religion, philosophy and, of course, left-wing ideology, please, please try to limit discussion of these topics to their relevance to the political right. We leave it up to posters to decide for themselves what constitutes "right-wing" in political jargon. Respect your fellow posters, abide by the site rules and be prepared to have your views challenged, mocked, torn apart, shit on and flushed down the toilet.

MAZEL TOV

[b]Relevant subjects for discussion include:

  • The politics, philosophies, and ideologies of the right.
  • Right-wing perspectives on economics and political economy.
  • News and history relevant to the political Right.
  • Right-wing responses to current events.
  • Right-wing perspectives on social and economic problems.
  • Political, social, cultural, and economic problems and their solutions according to the political Right.
  • The problems facing particular Right-wing movements or the political right in general, and how to resolve them.

Previous Iterations:


Poll History:

Poll 1: Is Cultural Marxism a Problem? (Jochistan) - 54% Voted Yes
Poll 2: Favourite Right-Wing Politicians? (Kauthar) - 25% voted Donald Trump
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Autocrats (Unnamed Island State) - 45% voted Vladamir Putin
Poll 4: Best Right-Wing Countries (Kauthar) - Putin's Russia 21%
Poll 5: Best Right-Wing Idealogue (Legitimists)

Poll 1: What Right-Wing Ideology do you adhere to? - 55 votes for Libertarian
Poll 2 Favourite Right-Wing Economic System - 31 votes for Neoliberalism
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator - 18 Votes Kai Shek and Pinochet
Poll 4: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator PART 2 - David Cameron 49%
Poll 5: Prominent Right-Wing NSers/Favourite Future Right-Wing Dictator - Old Tyrannia 39 votes/29%
Poll 6: Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictators - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) 43 Votes/23%

Poll 0.1: Continue the Old Poll Y/N
Poll 1: Favourite Right-Wing Ideologies - Libertarianism/Minarchism

Poll 1: Favorite Centre-Right Parties - Republican Party (US) 39%
Poll 2: What should be the most important core value of a state ideology? Liberty 47%

Poll 1: Which piece of literature has been most significant to the development of right-wing ideology? - Reflections on the Revolution in France 68/237 (29%)
Poll 2: Favourite constitutional/government models? - US 166/528 (31%)

Poll 1: If you could reverse the outcomes of one of these events, which one would it be? - The Russian Revolution 116/343 (34%)
Poll 2: If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be? - The Roman Empire 119/495 (24%)

Do you drink alcohol and what's your opinion of it?
No, and I have a negative opinion of it. It should remain legal. - 57 (36%)
Total Votes: 157 (Recorded 09/01/2017)

Poll 1: Which of the following Trump picks are you most happy with? And are you overall satisfied with them? - James Norman Mattis 92/384 Terrible picks, what have we gotten ourselves into. 97/384
Poll 2: Is Islam compatible with western civilisation? No - 102/330. If reformed yes - 102/330
Poll 3: Which side, for the sake of mankind, should have won WW1? The Allied Powers - 225/385
Poll 4: Was the Reformation a good thing? Yes - 146/287

Poll 1: If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be? Treaty of Versailles - 365/564

Poll 1: What stance do you take on immigration? Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model. - 204/814

Poll 1: Which Kievan/Novrogrodian/Russian/Soviet leader was the greatest? Peter I The Great. 66/210

Poll 1: Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious? - MacArthur Shogunate :'). 289/450

Poll I: How should the government interact with religion? - Secularism 124/212 (58%)
Poll II: What's your favorite Eastern Philosophy? - Confucianism 45/206 (22%), Other/None 56/206 (27%)
Poll III: What's your favorite style of architecture? - Gothic 33/189 (17%)
Poll IV: To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe? - Natural Law Theory 20/112 (18%)

Poll I: Who is your favourite right-wing fiction writer? - JRR Tolkien 101/187 (54%)
Poll II: Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synonymous? - No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist (34%)

Poll I: Is Jair Bolsonaro's presidency a good thing for Brazil? - No 101/196 (52%)
Poll II: Has Angela Merkel's leadership been good for Germany? - No 112/222 (50%)
Poll III: Has Donald Trump's presidency so far been beneficial to the United States? - No 82/149 (55%)
Poll IV: Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan? - Unsure 52/119 (44%)

Lawful Good
41
18%
Lawful Neutral
24
10%
Lawful Evil
23
10%
Neutral Good
25
11%
Neutral Neutral
12
5%
Neutral Evil
12
5%
Chaotic Good
26
11%
Chaotic Neutral
35
15%
Chaotic Evil
32
14%

Reading Suggestions:
If you’re looking to read something relevant to right-wing politics, consider reading some of the texts below. If you think something’s missing from this list, please post a recommendation. If you think something should be removed, please explain why.

  • ”Leviathan”
    — Thomas Hobbes. [size=85](Read Here)
  • ”Two Treatises of Government”
    — John Locke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Protestant Work Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.”
    — Max Weber.
  • ”Reflections on the Revolution in France”
    — Edmund Burke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Wealth Of Nations”
    — Adam Smith. (Read Here)
  • ”Essay on the Generative Principle of Political Constitutions and other Human Institutions”
    — Joseph de Maistre. (Read Here)
  • ”Rerum novarum”
    — Pope Leo XIII. (Read Here)
  • ”The Crisis of the Modern World”
    — Rene Guenon. (Read Here)
  • ”The Doctrine Of Fascism”
    — Benito Mussolini. (Read Here)
  • ”The Conservative Mind”
    — Russell Kirk.
  • "On the Constutution of Church and State"
    — Samuel Taylor Coleridge
  • "Political Theology"
    — Carl Schmitt (Read Here)
  • "Revolt Against The Modern World"
    — Julius Evola
  • "How To Be A Conservative"
    — Roger Scruton

If you have a penchant for the colour red and the thought of top hats and canes stirs your bloodlust, you might find yourself fitting in better over at the Left-Wing Discussion Thread.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:37 pm

New thread!

EDIT: Also, first!
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:38 pm

Second
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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:38 pm

Third for goodposting!

Edit: beaten to the punch!
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:39 pm

Poll's gotta be better man. That's such a broad question with so many answers.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:40 pm

I actually don't know too many right-wing songs when you take out fascist marches, ditties about Dixie, and anti-communist tunes.
there is a loneliness in this world so great
that you can see it in the slow movement of
the hands of a clock

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:41 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Poll's gotta be better man. That's such a broad question with so many answers.

It's a placeholder until we have more substantial polls proposed. If you have poll suggestions, TG me
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:41 pm

Fahran wrote:I actually don't know too many right-wing songs when you take out fascist marches, ditties about Dixie, and anti-communist tunes.

We always have crusader songs.
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The token voice of dissent has arrived.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:41 pm

Fahran wrote:I actually don't know too many right-wing songs when you take out fascist marches, ditties about Dixie, and anti-communist tunes.

Have you heard of right-wing rap?
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:42 pm

So right wing, conservative, republican ?
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:43 pm

I admit I'm partial to the old mostaccioli songs myself

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Postby Turbofolkia » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:43 pm

This poll needs an “other” option.

I nominate Sude Mi or Bojna Čavoglave, naturally.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:43 pm

Turbofolkia wrote:This poll needs an “other” option.

I nominate Sude Mi or Bojna Čavoglave, naturally.

Seconded.
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Postby Magnum Exitium » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:So right wing, conservative, republican ?

Anything that fits under this



Outer Sparta wrote:Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm

Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.
social democracy, environmental protection, universal healthcare, free college, social equality, LGBT, pro-choice,
GOP, corporate socialism, Trump, neoconservatism, white supremacy, extreme political views, corruption

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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Fahran wrote:I actually don't know too many right-wing songs when you take out fascist marches, ditties about Dixie, and anti-communist tunes.

Have you heard of right-wing rap?

Does that include Lil’ Pump?
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm

Gentlemen, I propose we oppress the Scots

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Postby Magnum Exitium » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:47 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.

This is definitely worthy of a sig



Outer Sparta wrote:Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.

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Kowani wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Have you heard of right-wing rap?

Does that include Lil’ Pump?


You know why they really killed Juice Wrld

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Postby Magnum Exitium » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:48 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Gentlemen, I propose we oppress the Scots

I second this motion



Outer Sparta wrote:Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:SHALOM, GOYS AND GOYLS

This, epic is ok



Outer Sparta wrote:Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:49 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Ahh yes, the best right-wing conversations start off with who's first or second in the thread.

I came out to have a good time and I'm honestly feel so attacked right now.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:50 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Kowani wrote:Does that include Lil’ Pump?


You know why they really killed Juice Wrld

He was reported on by 6ix9ine?
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“The rocks were covered with blackbirds and there were the Geirfugles ... They walked slowly. Jón Brandsson crept up with his arms open. The bird that Jón got went into a corner but mine was going to the edge of the cliff. It walked like a man ... but moved its feet quickly. [I] caught it close to the edge – a precipice many fathoms deep. Its wings lay close to the sides – not hanging out. I took him by the neck and he flapped his wings. He made no cry. I strangled him.

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