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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:45 pm

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So? The Killdozer with it's Barrett .50 cal would've been able to take on actual tanks from the 1st World War and Interwar periods.

How, crashing into a museum?


Again, by using it’s .50 cal.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:51 pm

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The Emerald Legion wrote:Which means....? Again. Just because you can buy disarmed military surplus doesn't mean that there are civilian production tanks.

Besides a tank needs more than one person to crew effectively. So presumably, the four or so people crewing the tank would each pitch in part of the funding.

Iirc civilians can own a fully armed tank as long as they have a federal Destructive Device permit. It's a lot of money and you have to be a model citizen in order to acquire a permit, but its doable.

So I really could speed my summertime friday evening commute on the long island expressway?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:55 pm

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The Emerald Legion wrote:Which means....? Again. Just because you can buy disarmed military surplus doesn't mean that there are civilian production tanks.

Besides a tank needs more than one person to crew effectively. So presumably, the four or so people crewing the tank would each pitch in part of the funding.

Iirc civilians can own a fully armed tank as long as they have a federal Destructive Device permit. It's a lot of money and you have to be a model citizen in order to acquire a permit, but its doable.


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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:41 pm

Dylar wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:Which means....? Again. Just because you can buy disarmed military surplus doesn't mean that there are civilian production tanks.

Besides a tank needs more than one person to crew effectively. So presumably, the four or so people crewing the tank would each pitch in part of the funding.

Iirc civilians can own a fully armed tank as long as they have a federal Destructive Device permit. It's a lot of money and you have to be a model citizen in order to acquire a permit, but its doable.


Just have money and don't be a felon.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:54 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How, crashing into a museum?


Again, by using it’s .50 cal.

On tanks that are literal museum pieces. What, do they come to life at night because of the Tablet of Ahkmentah?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:15 pm

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Again, by using it’s .50 cal.

On tanks that are literal museum pieces. What, do they come to life at night because of the Tablet of Ahkmentah?


And armored cars such as MRAPs used by SWAT and the Nat Guard. Also, just replace the .50 with a 20mm. And thanks for justifying why we should keep the many Destructive Devices and RPGs in private hands.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Dylar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:34 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Dylar wrote:Iirc civilians can own a fully armed tank as long as they have a federal Destructive Device permit. It's a lot of money and you have to be a model citizen in order to acquire a permit, but its doable.

So I really could speed my summertime friday evening commute on the long island expressway?

Well, unfortunately I'm sure most states would not allow tanks on the road. Since their treads can tear roads up pretty badly.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:37 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Dylar wrote:Iirc civilians can own a fully armed tank as long as they have a federal Destructive Device permit. It's a lot of money and you have to be a model citizen in order to acquire a permit, but its doable.

So I really could speed my summertime friday evening commute on the long island expressway?

What you really want is an M18 Hellcat.
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Postby Dylar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:39 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:So I really could speed my summertime friday evening commute on the long island expressway?

What you really want is an M18 Hellcat.

M10 GMC, so that you can get that open top that you've always wanted and be able to one shot literally everything
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:43 pm

This just another guns thread now, then?

Not that I mind, just it seems the 'emergency' passed with a refreshing amount of sanity.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:05 pm

Dylar wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:What you really want is an M18 Hellcat.

M10 GMC, so that you can get that open top that you've always wanted and be able to one shot literally everything

Do you mean the M36 GMC? M10 had the 3-inch M7, its performance was practically the same as the M18's 76mm M1.

The advantage of the M18 is that you can keep up with traffic on the highway.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:06 pm

Albrenia wrote:This just another guns thread now, then?

Not that I mind, just it seems the 'emergency' passed with a refreshing amount of sanity.

This makes me wonder why the thread is still active.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:07 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Albrenia wrote:This just another guns thread now, then?

Not that I mind, just it seems the 'emergency' passed with a refreshing amount of sanity.

This makes me wonder why the thread is still active.

Please. People here will post and post and post ... Anyway, yeah, locked.
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