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Sentient Nonhumans in your nation.

Postby Zeganas » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:32 pm

How does your nation deal with, or accept, nonhumans who are sentient in your nation?

By nonhumans I mean anything that can range from humanoids like dwarves, elves, and halflings to those who are something like animals that can communicate through complex language.

In Zeganas for example, there are no actual humans or humanoids, but if there were any, they'd be treated as the 3 main races that exist currently in the world of Nakolna. Those being the anthro gryphon-like Baristolans, the anthro wolf-like wolfians that have 4 ears instead of 2, and the anthro reptilian-like ninlaians that are much shorter than the other 2 races. They treat each other with respect as long as they don't hurt anyone, and slavery has been abolished globally for a long time.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:47 pm

TurtleShroom's native population consisted of two types of non-humans and, combined, are hundreds of millions strong. Approximately five hundred million of TurtleShroom's one billion five hundred million inhabitants are non-human.

The two dominant non-human species are the sapient turtles and the sapient mushrooms. Neither of these are very anthropomorphic: the only differences between a sapient turtle and a "normal" one are intellectual capacity, size, and ability to speak. Regardless of what they look like or what kind of turtle or tortoise they are, they are all the size of what most call "giant tortoises", or even bigger.

Sapient mushrooms are giant mushrooms with eyes and a mouth. These eyes and mouth are the only "organs" on the mushroom's fruiting body. Sapient mushrooms do not have muscles, tongues, an uvula, esophogus, bones, or teeth. While the eyes have been confirmed to be their source of eyesight, the sapient mushrooms "eat" by either lying in and decomposing rubbish and compost, or "eating" the refuse by placing it in their mouth and holding it closed. Technically speaking, this could count as "saliva", but the chemicals secreted by mushrooms inside their mouths and their bodies

Sapient mushrooms do not have the digestive system of an animal. Like "normal" mushrooms, they break down food through secretion of powerful enzymes and then absorb it. Unlike normal mushrooms, however, these enzymes can be and are secreted out of the fruiting body and mouth of the mushroom and not its "roots" (mycelium). Sapient mushrooms lack "roots".
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Postby Estainia » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:56 pm

In the context of the world in which the Empire exists there are many such peoples; Men, Elves, Dwarrow and more all exist within the Empire's lands, most are legal subjects of Her Majesty unless decided otherwise by treatise, such as the case of the elven kingdom of Akrosea, which is a protectorate, not a subject. Dwarrow tend to remain in their mountains and their valleys but are often enough seen on the surface as to need laws pertaining to them; Dwarrow by default are not subjects of the Empire but citizens of their respective nations (yes, nations, there is no mega-empire beneath the terrafirma) and are issued passports accordingly. Outside of Elves and Dwarrow it varies considerably, men, elf and dwarf represent only those peoples with the highest populations; Imperial Law holds dragons to be sacrosanct due to their religious importance to many peoples, and is willing to overlook the occasional cattle nabbing, though most dragons simply pay for the heads of cattle they want. Denizens of the Imperial Reserve, a large forest that covers most of the kingdom of Valmont and Etruris, vary from dryads to water nymphs and many others, are considered Imperial citizens.

Essentially Imperial Law has a simple outlook on sentient peoples, if you can speak a complex language and you feel emotion, congratulations, you're a citizen of the Empire if you live within its lands.

Regarding synthetic intelligences; If an AI asked does this unit have a soul, the Empire would answer yes because it asked that question.
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Postby Treskovia » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:25 pm

The Imperial Republic is compried of a multitude of primarily three sapient species: Humans, Allirans and Androids.

Allirans are humanoid dragons that lived underneath Treskovian territory before their discvery during the construction of Treskovia's underground cities. Their government has merged with that of Treskovia, and the two species exist as equals, though the law is slightly different regarding the two due to biological differences.

Androids are mechanicl constructs with neural pathways complex enough to support free will. They were created by Samuel Hayden, the world's leading roboticist, who transferred his brain into a robotic body. He now serves as Overseer of the Androids, his title as member of the Imperial Trinity. The Androids too have equal right, though the law is different for them to accomodate for differences.

These are the two main non-Human species in the Imperial Republic, though there has been a recent, though extremely small influx of residents from extraterrestrial civilisations, most notably from The Void Pact. They to are given the same rights as any other species if they apply for full citizenship. None of the aliens have done so, at least not yet.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:27 pm

We have a small but thriving community of Énoires (Dark Elves) in Diarcesia. As long as they accept the vision of Diarcesia as a society, they are as welcome as humans that accept said vision.

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Postby Haeresia » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:58 am

Only humans are truly sentient in Haeresia. Developments into AI have been made, however, but no robot has yet to attain perfect sentience according to Haeresiac standards. Regardless, they are seen as mere tools and so any sentience they will achieve shall only be used to further the prosperity of the state.
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Postby Caligolus » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:13 am

We have a factbook all about this, covering all sapients, human and otherwise, and there are quite a few. Still a few things to add, however. For extra fun, it is written entirely from an imperial perspective - if it seems incredibly racist against species that are not dwarf, elf, human, or halfling, that is because the Holy Empire is indeed incredibly racist.

Different sapients are treated differently. Some species are considered "civilized", and some are considered "uncivilized". Civilized sapients, in general, have more rights and protections under law, and uncivilized sapients can look forward to a life spent in poverty, slavery, crime, or often undesirable jobs. Orcs in particular have it rough, with institutionalized racism against them. (The entry for orcs hasn't been added yet, but roughly everything said in the factbook about how half-orcs are treated likewise applies to orcs.)

Racism still exists, and quite very strongly, even in a hegemonic, cosmopolitan society.
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Postby Greater Cosmicium » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:17 am

Greater Cosmicium has at least 280 million of these species, but the most common ones are the Khaazai, King Scorpions, Fire Dragons, Ice Dragons and Nuironi. They are treated as equals to the dominant Human species in terms of citizenship rights.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:24 am

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All of these have equal rights, basically, although some differences in law apply for biological reasons (e.g. differing ages of majority).
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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:46 am

We have many species of "non-humans" as you say. Here is a multiversal log on our peoples for more information. Most of them are anthropomorphic Equus Sapiens. We have a notable minority of griffons, and some baseline humans. Though the Empire is notable for having a diaspora of Katzenmenschen, commonly thought of as catgirls, though these people come in a variety of sexes and genders.

And here are the so-called uncivilized beings. For example, dragons can communicate but choose to live outside of our society, though some have settled in and assimilated to the largely pony culture. Some beings are considered predatory monsters such as vampires.

Now, being a truly cosmopolitan realm. We have many migrants from not just other lands, but planets and universes in some cases. We are not entirely human.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:50 am

There are a number that were human, such as ghouls and super mutants, but there are also sentient artificial intelligences as well. There are also sentient deathclaws.
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Postby Ujang » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:04 am

The Federation, its all of its history, are always extremely multicultural, with no one majority race throughout the country.Instead, the Federation's demographics represent a vast plethora of races from human, all the way to the exoticiest of demi-humans. Some of the notable demi-humans are Elves, Lamias, Nekomimis, Dryads, Fairies, Harpies, Angelics, Succubus, Dridders/Arachne, Centaurs, Minotaurs, Mermaids, Scyllas, all the way to the obscure Miaxis. There are also a special race: Demi-Chimeras, conceived when a person from different races acquire some of both the parent's features (a Lamia with cat ears, for example).

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Postby The Sapmi » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:11 am

Robots in the Saami Commonwealth fail to have as many rights as humans, but the number that they have is desired by robots around the globe; the right to marry (although not with humans) and the right to 'procreate'. Around 24% of the human population desires human-robot relationships to be legalised, whilst 18% want all robots to be destroyed, with the major leader of this movement, Hansel Järvi at times praising the actions of the Carribean Federation (genocidal towards robots).
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Postby Vallermoore » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:09 am

Apart from humans, we have large numbers of sapient ponies and changelings living within our borders. Racism towards sapient ponies is very low-and whilst many dislike changelings, few dare harm them due to their shape-changing abilities. In addition there are Merpeople in our waters and one single open Decepticon, the Full Priest who goes by the name of Fire Eater.

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Postby Grotesque Spore Creatures » Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:22 pm

Our entire species is literally made out of sentient nonhumans.
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Postby Pavonistade » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:21 pm

The population of mainstream Pavonistade is 100% human.

However, in other universes, Pavonistade has anywhere between a small minority and a substantial population of nonhuman individuals. In these versions of Pavonistade, people of all species are treated equally and are equally entitled to Pavonsitadian citizenship.
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Postby Outer Solar System » Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:02 am

The only species that could be considered a sentient nonhuman entity in the COSS would be a number of extremly rare artificial intelligences. Such intelligences are extremly restricted by law and generally only created in isolated government and university research labs. These AIs are usually completely cut off from any computer systems other than their own hardware and software for safety reasons. AIs are considered extremly dangerous. They have no rights under COSS law, but that's true of all citizens and civilians in the COSS, as a general rule. Illegal AIs are not unheard of, but the creation, maintenance, ownership, or known harboring, or an AI is a serious offense and punishable by death.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:00 am

All sentient creatures with a soul are protected by the law, including, but not limited to, vampires, dragons, aliens and werewolves. This means that robots aren't protected by any laws, since they lack souls and are thus not really alive. Demons are also the only other exception because in our world, they're all evil.
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Postby Imperial Gatorland » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:43 am

Under imperial law, a member of any species born within the empire that can:

Feel emotion
Communicate with others of the same and different species
Complete three years national service (one year active duty, two in the reserves)

is considered to be an imperial citizen.

Nonhuman species in Imperial Gatorland include:

Dwarves
Elves
Dragons
Vampires
Gators (humanoid crocodilians)
Dinosaurs
Artificial Intelligence

The Gatorland Alien Legion is a means for life-forms born outside the empire to gain citizenship. If a being serves in the legion for one year of active service, and two years in the reserves, they receive citizenship.

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Postby The Glass Oasis » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:01 am

The Glass Oasis accepts any species that can prove being sentient as a possible citizen. Being a nation formed from unity of the native slimes and humans that came here, we are accepting of many species.
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Postby Gylthas » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:30 am

Gylthas is home to the following races:

Human (main race)
Wood Elf (migrant/colonial race)
Satyr (migrant/colonial race)
Minotaur (native Gylthan race)
Kobold (native Gylthan race)
Harpy (native Gylthan race)
Dwarf (migrant race)
High Elf (migrant race)

They are, on paper, treated as equals. In practice, racism may occur.
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Postby Raider Clans » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:36 am

There aren't any besides mutants, and the raiders force those things to fight in their arenas.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:43 pm

How does your nation deal with, or accept, nonhumans who are sentient in your nation?


We Decepticon robots are the only species species in our nation that is believed to have sapience as a generalized default trait. All biologicals are considered either livestock or wildlife. They have no rights, and if they are capable of being trained to do some sort of work of consequence, they are put to labor.

Other types of machines are also considered inferior by default, whether sapient or not, especially if they come from some other nation. However, Decepticon-built machines that were meant to be inferior (such as desktop computers and the like) must, by law, be upgraded if they can show themselves to be sapient. We have an official Sapience Test that is normally used to determine when a young Decepticon should be considered an adult. If a "lesser" Cybertronian machine passes that test, he will be upgraded to a regular Decepticon body and granted citizenship as a native-built. He will then be able to enjoy the associated privileges, and any property rights someone had on him prior to his obtaining a Certification of Sapience are terminated.

Biologicals who attempt to become Decepticon citizens may also be given the Sapience Test if there is any doubt. If there is, then this test will be the first thing on the agenda. If they fail, they are disqualified. (All foreigners who seek citizenship must also pass two rounds of psych tests, a survival test, and a code-read (aka, computerized mind reading) in order to get it.)
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:47 pm

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