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Ardiveds
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Founded: Feb 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Ardiveds » Mon May 25, 2020 2:08 pm

Medwedgrad wrote:
Ardiveds wrote:OOC: I'd also like to point out that the NS multiverse has sapient creatures other than humans. There are nations whose citizens are non humans which is a reason defining 'animals' in relation to humans doesn't work in a WA resolution.


Medwedgrad doesn't acknowledge the existence of sapient non-humans, but even if we would acknowledge it, it would not change the main argument for my disagreement with this resolution.

OOC: That's fine. Its your vote, what you do with it is no one's business, and truth be told, the definition could have been easily rectified by simply adding a 'of a non sapient species' after the 'non sapient being'. But just know that this definition can not become a basis for any future redefinition of 'human' due to the way definitions work in WA proposals and even if someone did try to experiment on human fetuses or people in coma, they are gonna have pretty big non-compliance related trouble.
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Agualia
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Founded: Oct 20, 2019
Ex-Nation

Ethical Treatment of Animals in Research

Postby Agualia » Tue May 26, 2020 3:47 am

We will be voting in favor of this resolution.
Agualia believes that this is an exceptionally well-written resolution with the aims of improving our world, not only for us but for all beings calling this land home. Agualia would like to thank all nations that participated in the creation of this great resolution.
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Potted Plants United
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Founded: Jan 14, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Potted Plants United » Tue May 26, 2020 8:12 am

Medwedgrad wrote:Medwedgrad doesn't acknowledge the existence of sapient non-humans, but even if we would acknowledge it, it would not change the main argument for my disagreement with this resolution.

The hivemind's bipedal, partially see-through plant creature was, in some people's minds an improvement to an innocuous potted plant suddenly unfurling a speaking apparatus from what you had thought to be a flower bud, while others were likely somewhat creeped out, especially as it was even more difficult for them to understand that the creature they saw and heard speak, was not a single individual, but rather the interface to a vast intelligence currently spanning several planets in different universes, aware across all of its bodies, no matter if they were sessile like any other plant, mobile and resembling animals, or strange hybrids of the two, like its current "ambassador".

"The problems with treating all animals as animals, while some are sapient and some aren't, is not as great as you would like us to believe, ambassador," it said. "And whether you believe in other sapients existing or not, we are as real as you. For example, I currently work with and for at least twelve different sapient species, out of whom only five are human, and even they evolved in different universes, so calling them the same species is nonsensical. Additionally, you have to remember that if you would like to classify other sapients as animals instead, what is there to stop them doing the same to you in turn? Fortunately, under the existing resolutions of the World Assembly, you cannot renounce the sapiency of others any more than you can renounce your own sapiency, and so you, and they, are safe and cannot be classified as animals. I was never an animal to begin with, yet I am a sapient and thus afforded all the same protections under WA law as you are. Like I said, it is not as difficult as you make it sound like."
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Tinhampton
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Founded: Oct 05, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tinhampton » Tue May 26, 2020 9:01 am

Ethical Treatment of Animals in Research was passed 18,363 votes to 3,675.

For: 18,363: McMasterdonia (1,414), Aumeltopia (1,133), Marrabuk (1,024), Kuriko (846), East Durthang (638), Aexnidaral (488), Imperium Anglorum (388), North East Somerset (315), Dead I Jack (284), OF Arian Hellas (225), ShrewLlamaLand (175), Dekks (172), Titanne (170), Dome Artan (148), Takura (133), Nulkia (127), Zentata (125), Laurennia (115), Bietzopolis (108), Yodle (105), Ransium (104), God-King Rorschach (99), Lesser Velutaria (93), The Salaxalans (80), Koiho (73), Mikeswill (67), Dabberwocky (65), Enlais (61), These United Socialists (60), Pure Blooded Whites (54), Bretislavia (51), Rain Delay (48), United Calanworie (47), Greater Victora (45), Kamchakta (44), Mother Bear (43), Ex Patrian SSR (41), Karteria (39), Asian Lands (39), Lauchenoiria (36), Altorthfnara (36), Thembria SSR (34), New Luciannova (32), Candensia (29), Alcala-Cordel (27), Dua Sicilia (26), Aynia Moreaux (26), Switzar (25), Breadoria (25), South Krimelski (24), Halcyon Nova (24), Renevar (23), New Nationale Einheit (23), Ukraniumstan (22), Neo Kerala (21), Scaneland (20), ScotlandSerenity (18), Greater Cuba (17), United Massachusetts (17), Newreath (16), Vetiaca (16), Ile Morice (16), Kustonia (15), Palsada (15), Akarea (15), Ariusgrad (15), Catterborough (15), Albarusija (15), Wuunime (14), Nekomimea (14), FireFox15 (13), Orca and Narwhal (13), Durchhalten (13), Acaciatropole (13), The New North Republic (12), Wanarpu (12), The Flyin (12), Lead Keion (11), The Sheika (11), Sylh Alanor (11), The Soviet state of Svalbard (11), Auxorii (11), Otaku Stratus (11), Arrstotzka (10), The Regalian Underland (10), Canogally (10), Potato Valley Region (10), FORKTASTICSTAN (9), Sail Nation (9), San Lumen (9), Luxenermy (9), Marlida (8), The States of France (8), Draganisia (8), Riocht mor Daraen (8), OmegaShenron (8), Utralia (8), Dildar (8), Ascoobis (8), Ferroviaire (8), Lorthanien (8), Conservativealia (8), Sutland rep (8), Auruga (8), Golanchia (8), Mundane (8), Winfallow (7), Yermaney (7), 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Against: 3,675: Bran Astor (915), Llorens (253), New Jaedonstan (208), One Small Island (94), Bonnie Blue Republic (82), New Gandor (43), NewTexas (31), Bearded Dragones (28), Christian Democrats (28), Johanneslanden (24), Austrovik-Germania (13), Notty Swaras (12), Prodstrazka (11), Crupt Quela (8), Whims (8), The Newest of Virginia (7), Aelythium (7), Alatoma (6), Danieldan0 (6), Davelands (6), Teekerbocker (6), Lodhs beard (5), Of Britannia and Hibernia (5), SOUTH WANISTAN (5), Sovereign Red (5), AlMualin (5), RBBF (4), Pan-Asiatic States (4), Swuoz Smua WA Delegate (4), Harmonic Empire (4), ColdHeartedBastards (4), The Eastern Pacific Islands (4), Het Solen (4), The Palentine (4), The Begnion Regime (4), Voroslavl (4), Dux Gloriosus (4), Dollystana (4), The Lancistarian Archipelago (3), The Greater Union of Man (3), Meretica (3), Sanctity Moonlands (3), Communist Volkstrad (3), Beinirham (3), Vavido (3), Bettisia (3), Ilstur (3), Sedgistan (3), United Dependencies (3), Tanuvar (3), Oriental Merchants (3), Vladilan (3), Jasque (3), Communist East Prussia (3), Little Podemitas (3), GreatEstate (3), Dump 64 (2), The Shenopentefarhinniaistan (2), Archidamus (2), FedeRAtion of sARAwak (2), North Texia (2), Portuguese Southeast Asia Timor (2), West Axeton (2), New Aradania (2), Lacmhacarh (2), Corporate Triumvirate (2), The Anarchist State of Hentai (2), Deepnest (2), Cylithia (2), Panamit (2), Ygdengelus (2), Preblion (2), Aln Island (2), Erop (2), ErykCarrillo (2), Victores (2), South Yunchaek (2), Erina Athe (2), Azaghal (2), Lamebrainia (2), A Deadly Wasteland (2), Kuruzubek (2), Livernus (2), Okinowa (2), Am Yisrael Chai (2), Malvator (2), Otogal (2), Papa Fetter (2), XKrieg (2), Vampiric Hollandia (2), Sober Wisconsin (2), President Pro Tempore (2), Ideam-aKer (2), Somalwilandia (2), Rtx2080ti (2), The Svalbard Islands (2), Perelingo (2), Rivgalia (2), Laissez-faire Federated States (2), and (1,666) individual member nations.
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Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356, GA#559, GA#562, GA#567, GA#578, SC#374, GA#582, SC#375, GA#589, GA#590, SC#382, SC#385*, GA#597, GA#607, SC#415, GA#647, GA#656, GA#664, GA#671, GA#674, GA#675, GA#677, GA#680, Issue #1580, GA#682, GA#683, GA#684, GA#692, GA#693, GA#715
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