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Postby Neuer Deutsches Reich » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:02 pm

What is the best colonial empire? Your own opinion, debate it with others and if I don’t include yours I am sorry.

Also do not just look at size but at what impact it had on the world and/or it’s potential of one event didn’t happen.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:04 pm

None, they're all reflections of western barbarism and greed. I'm glad we're freer from their oppression now than before.
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Postby A z a n i a » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:09 pm

In terms of size, the British Empire. At its height, it was comparable in size to the surface area of the moon.

That said, I agree with Amenria's point.
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Postby Lillorainen » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:12 pm

In terms of furtherment of economic development and industrial advancement within the colonies, probably Japan. Then again, they can hardly be called 'better' than any Western empire when it comes to brutality ... (Thus, I agree with Amenria, even though Japan can't pass as 'Western'.)
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Postby Qvebeque » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:17 pm

But.. but... muh roads... muh clothes... it helped Africans... No, all colonial empires were brutal.

If I had to make a list of colonial empires based on land influence, and prosperity (all these empires are at their greatest extent when selected):

1. The British Empire, duh
2. Rome (It could be counted as a colonial empire, they did colonize, just in Europe.)
3. France
4. Portugal
5. Ottomans
6. Spain
7. The Dutch
8. The USA
9. Italy
10. Germany
11. Russia
12. Japan
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:17 pm

Probably the British Empire, in terms of sheer influence.

If whatever the US is running counts as an empire, perhaps that (although it's not really colonial).

A m e n r i a wrote:None, they're all reflections of western barbarism and greed. I'm glad we're freer from their oppression now than before.

Not all of the barbaric, greedy, and/or oppressive empires were western.
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Postby Elvectica » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:18 pm

Probably the Dutch Empire's the most impressive imo. Starting from being swamp Germans to controlling vast amounts of land and resources around the world, not to mention their influence in other cultures, for example with Japan.

For my personal opinion though? It's hard to say. I'm tempted to say the German Empire (just because I like "the aesthetic") but even in their short and mistaken endeavours of owning colonies, they too did horrible, horrible things.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:22 pm

I mean if were talking about sheer size and power then the British Empire no question. If were talking about morals then that is more complicated but really I don't think any of these empires have much of a leg to stand on.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:25 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:None, they're all reflections of western barbarism and greed. I'm glad we're freer from their oppression now than before.


We weren't more greedy than others in the world, we were just more efficient at being greedy. Also boats, it apparently only counts as colonialism if boats are involved.
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Postby Cetacea » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:26 pm

USA
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Postby Cetacea » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:29 pm

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A m e n r i a wrote:None, they're all reflections of western barbarism and greed. I'm glad we're freer from their oppression now than before.


We weren't more greedy than others in the world, we were just more efficient at being greedy. Also boats, it apparently only counts as colonialism if boats are involved.


No, Britain was certainly more greedy than others. People are still Fighting the English to get their stuff back.

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Postby Nakena » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:37 pm

1: Roman Empire
2: Islamic Caliphate
3: Chinese Empire
4: British Empire
5: American Empire
6: Achaemenid Empire
7: German Empire
8: French Empire
9: Russian Empire

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Postby Vetalia » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:48 pm

Probably the Macedonian Empire; really, their introduction of Greek culture into a vast swath of the known world had massive effects on the empires that followed it...there would be no Roman Empire without Macedon and no British Empire without Rome, and those two empires are easily the most influential the world has ever seen.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:52 pm

A z a n i a wrote:In terms of size, the British Empire. At its height, it was comparable in size to the surface area of the moon.

That said, I agree with Amenria's point.


Wait, really? The damn moon?

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SD_Film Artists wrote:
We weren't more greedy than others in the world, we were just more efficient at being greedy. Also boats, it apparently only counts as colonialism if boats are involved.


No, Britain was certainly more greedy than others. People are still Fighting the English to get their stuff back.


*Cough cough* Netherlands
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Postby Pangurstan » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:33 pm

The british empire was the most influential empire that was truly colonial. However it could easily be replaced by other late-19th century colonial empires.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:41 pm

Most influential? I'd say the British Empire. Well, they leave a lasting legacy that their language now is used worldwide.
Best colonial empire? None since they don't really develop their colonies save for a few exceptions.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:43 pm

Aside from a few historical exceptions, the British Empire was for the most part, a very benevolent world-unifying force.

I do believe they take title as history’s most influential empire. They ruled 1/4 of the world, many of their ideas live on today and many ex colonies are successful today (that can’t be said of other colonial empires). For instance, Australia, the USA, and NZ were all once part of the Empire.

Technology was massively improved through worldwide over the long term through trade and industrialization.
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Postby Magnum Exitium » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:45 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:None, they're all reflections of western barbarism and greed. I'm glad we're freer from their oppression now than before.

Casually ignoring, say, caliphates and Persia, but whatever



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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:53 pm

Magnum Exitium wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:None, they're all reflections of western barbarism and greed. I'm glad we're freer from their oppression now than before.

Casually ignoring, say, caliphates and Persia, but whatever

Considering where he lives, the Middle East is still pretty much western to him.
Well, I can't say for the other Asians, but for me Japan is the on the first list of eastern colonialism though perhaps that's because they used to rule the land where I live not too long ago.

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Postby Kubra » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:55 pm

Roman, simply because of how long-lasting their influence was/is. Spain as second, for the same reason.
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Postby Godborn Devildung » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:55 pm

Rome.

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Postby Magnum Exitium » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:56 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Magnum Exitium wrote:Casually ignoring, say, caliphates and Persia, but whatever

Considering where he lives, the Middle East is still pretty much western to him.
Well, I can't say for the other Asians, but for me Japan is the on the first list of eastern colonialism though perhaps that's because they used to rule the land where I live not too long ago.

China, Japan, Korea, etc.



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