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Kollafjordur
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(Draft)Police Funding Act

Postby Kollafjordur » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:49 pm

This is my new proposal,please tell me what you think of it.If I don't reply back,it does not mean I am not listening to your suggestions.

Creation of an International Police Funding Office
Section I:“Creation of an International Police Funding Office”,
Section II: Regarding the Creation of an International Police Funding Office,
Subsection I: Many officers lack the funding needed to keep criminals at bay,which in turn affects the safety of the nation.This may affect tourism or the happiness of the citizens,as their belief in the nations law keeping system has fallen.
Section III: Regarding the Amount of money required from each nation to fund the Police
Subsection I: Each country shall pay 50,000 per year(Currency Varies) ,no exceptions.Total money should equal 1,078,100,000 in money(currently).
Section IV:The PFO office
Subsection I: The PFO office shall oversee that the funds are distributed equally,and will forever hold the right to change the amount of money required from the nations.The secretary would also hold this same right.

-If executed properly,the amount of crime in the GA nations will deteriorate.

Don't be that harsh.
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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:23 am

(OOC: GA #002, Rights and Duties of WA States bans a WA police force.)
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:31 am

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: GA #002, Rights and Duties of WA States bans a WA police force.)

This proposal has nothing to do with establishing a WA police force, only funding police forces in various WA nation.
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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:51 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: GA #002, Rights and Duties of WA States bans a WA police force.)

This proposal has nothing to do with establishing a WA police force, only funding police forces in various WA nation.

(OOC: I view having an international funding office as ‘otherwise participating’ in police actions, since the money would be distributed by a WA committee to police forces.)
Rights and Duties of WA States wrote:the WA will not engage in commanding, organising, ratifying, denouncing, or otherwise participating in armed conflicts, police actions, or military activities
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:15 am

OOC: In my opinion, Kenmoria has the right of this, extant legislation would prohibit this as it would be a de facto creation of an international police through the funding committee
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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:56 am

Grays Harbor wrote:OOC: In my opinion, Kenmoria has the right of this, extant legislation would prohibit this as it would be a de facto creation of an international police through the funding committee


I think it would be worth it at some point to formally force GenSec, in a ruling, to state it is giving such a reading to police action. Especially since the standard meaning of "police action" in political science absolutely does not accord.

See, for example:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/police%20action
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/police-action
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/police-action
https://www.britannica.com/topic/police-action

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:20 am

Desmosthenes and Burke wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:OOC: In my opinion, Kenmoria has the right of this, extant legislation would prohibit this as it would be a de facto creation of an international police through the funding committee


I think it would be worth it at some point to formally force GenSec, in a ruling, to state it is giving such a reading to police action. Especially since the standard meaning of "police action" in political science absolutely does not accord.

See, for example:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/police%20action
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/police-action
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/police-action
https://www.britannica.com/topic/police-action

and the list goes on.

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On this post’s rulings we have one GenSec member agreeing with you, and three disagreeing, with the other two not actually addressing that aspect of the proposal in question. I can remember (although unfortunately, cannot find at present despite searching for nearly half an hour...) a related discussion in which the vote was 1:5.
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Postby Kollafjordur » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:50 am

Ok,so do you want me to throw away this idea,or just edit out those parts

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:52 am

KOLLAFJORDUR wrote:Ok,so do you want me to throw away this idea,or just edit out those parts

Is there even an idea left if those parts are edited out? :eyebrow:
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Kollafjordur
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Postby Kollafjordur » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:58 am

The New California Republic wrote:
KOLLAFJORDUR wrote:Ok,so do you want me to throw away this idea,or just edit out those parts

Is there even an idea left if those parts are edited out? :eyebrow:


Good Point.What do you guys suggest I do with this proposal.While I don't feel like throwing this away,I will if something like this is deemed illegal.

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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:48 am

KOLLAFJORDUR wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Is there even an idea left if those parts are edited out? :eyebrow:


Good Point.What do you guys suggest I do with this proposal.While I don't feel like throwing this away,I will if something like this is deemed illegal.

(OOC: I think this proposal is, unfortunately, not one that should be continued. The contradiction issue is one that can’t be fixed without completely changing the legislation, and it would be easier to pursue a different idea.)
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
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Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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Kollafjordur
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Postby Kollafjordur » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:59 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
KOLLAFJORDUR wrote:
Good Point.What do you guys suggest I do with this proposal.While I don't feel like throwing this away,I will if something like this is deemed illegal.

(OOC: I think this proposal is, unfortunately, not one that should be continued. The contradiction issue is one that can’t be fixed without completely changing the legislation, and it would be easier to pursue a different idea.)


Alright.Thanks for the feedback

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Postby Terttia » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:13 pm

KOLLAFJORDUR wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: I think this proposal is, unfortunately, not one that should be continued. The contradiction issue is one that can’t be fixed without completely changing the legislation, and it would be easier to pursue a different idea.)


Alright.Thanks for the feedback

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