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I think..

..he was guilty and he should not do this
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..he was not guilty but he still shouldn't do this
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..he was guilty but he should do this
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..he was not guilty and should totally do this
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The Zimmerman Files..

Postby Bombadil » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:56 pm

So, George Zimmerman, the guy who was told not to follow someone but did so anyway and then Trayvon Martin died as a result.. is back burnishing his reputation again by filing a USD100M lawsuit against Trayvon Martin's family.

Stay classy George.

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer cleared of murdering an unarmed black teenager in one of Florida’s most high-profile criminal cases, launched a $100m lawsuit on Wednesday against the dead boy’s family, their lawyer and prosecutors.

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Apparently he feels his reputation was destroyed but also makes some specific allegations..

..that the state’s attorney, Angela Corey, and her team of prosecutors relied on a witness who falsely claimed to be Martin’s girlfriend to testify against him.

He further alleges that Benjamin Crump, the civil rights attorney who has represented Martin’s parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, since their son’s death, defames him in Crump’s recent book Open Season: Legalized Genocide of Colored People.


To the first..

The allegations about a fake witness center on a teenager called Rachel Jeantel, whom the lawsuit claims gave testimony as Martin’s girlfriend as “an imposter” for her half-sister Brittany Diamond Eugene, Martin’s “real” girlfriend at the time.

Although the prosector responded..

“This plaintiff continues to display a callous disregard for everyone but himself. He would have us believe that he is the victim of a deep conspiracy despite the complete lack of any credible evidence to support his outlandish claims.”

By continuing he might be referring to the fact that George Zimmerman tried to auction the gun he used to shoot Trayvon Martin to raise funds to fight the cause of Black Lives Matter.

However.. obviously he has a right to do this if he feels he's been wrongly victimised and god knows he's certainly received threats and it's had a major impact on his life.

One year earlier, a violent road rage incident resulted in a Florida man, Matthew Apperson, being sentenced to 20 years in prison for attempted murder after shooting at Zimmerman.

Yet the specific question is not what you think of him but, given criteria, whether you think he should?

I personally think he shouldn't myself, but then I think he should have been convicted for manslaughter so I accept that taints my view.

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:05 pm

Douchebag got away with killing their son and now wants to bill them for the "privilege".
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:12 pm

Zimmerman was in the right legally for the whole shooting incident but this is just dumb.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:12 pm

I remember Rachel Jeantel's testimony. It was the source of many memes, largely due to the fact that she could barely comprehend the questions and spoke rather incoherently. Also this:
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:19 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I remember Rachel Jeantel's testimony. It was the source of many memes, largely due to the fact that she could barely comprehend the questions and spoke rather incoherently. Also this:


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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:24 pm

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Zimmerman was in the right legally for the whole shooting incident but this is just dumb.

So if his sense of justice "wasn't" warped when he went after Trayvon, why's it warped here?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:34 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Zimmerman was in the right legally for the whole shooting incident but this is just dumb.

So if his sense of justice "wasn't" warped when he went after Trayvon, why's it warped here?


The notoriety/fame went to his head?
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:36 pm

Is he gunning for the Scumbag Steve Award?
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:38 pm

I swear this man just thrives off the negative attention and actively seeks it out.

That or he's aggressively stupid.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:40 pm

Valrifell wrote:I swear this man just thrives off the negative attention and actively seeks it out.

That or he's aggressively stupid.


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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:42 pm

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:45 pm

You know that reality's just a cruel, macabre joke of itself when this bullshit is actually real and happening in our lifetime.

Fuck that murderous bastard Zimmerman. Things would be ever so slightly better if Martin had survived and this fuckwit wasn't able to get away with this shit.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:09 pm

Wow. And I thought trying to sell the gun he shot Trayvon Martin with for $250,000 was the lowest he could sink. He's almost ready for politics!
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:10 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Wow. And I thought trying to sell the gun he shot Trayvon Martin with for $250,000 was the lowest he could sink. He's almost ready for politics!


that better be one of the finest handguns ever made if its for that price.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:You know that reality's just a cruel, macabre joke of itself when this bullshit is actually real and happening in our lifetime.

Fuck that murderous bastard Zimmerman. Things would be ever so slightly better if Martin had survived and this fuckwit wasn't able to get away with this shit.

If he had survived both of them would be in prison for assault and battery.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:12 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Wow. And I thought trying to sell the gun he shot Trayvon Martin with for $250,000 was the lowest he could sink. He's almost ready for politics!


The Thompson submachine guns use by Bonnie and Clyde went for $1,000,000 in an auction.

OJ Simpson's Bronco has received bids of over $5,000,000

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:15 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Torrocca wrote:You know that reality's just a cruel, macabre joke of itself when this bullshit is actually real and happening in our lifetime.

Fuck that murderous bastard Zimmerman. Things would be ever so slightly better if Martin had survived and this fuckwit wasn't able to get away with this shit.

If he had survived both of them would be in prison for assault and battery.


I can't actually speak for the dead, but if I had to guess, I'm pretty sure that Trayvon would've much rather been alive and imprisoned than murdered.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:17 pm

I would buy OJ Simpson's Bronco and mount Bonnie and Clyde's machine guns on the roof, while being double-strapped with Aaron Burr's flintlock and George Zimmerman's pistol. Furthermore, I would wear the suit JFK was killed in while I drove it around.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:20 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I would buy OJ Simpson's Bronco and mount Bonnie and Clyde's machine guns on the roof, while being double-strapped with Aaron Burr's flintlock and George Zimmerman's pistol. Furthermore, I would wear the suit JFK was killed in while I drove it around.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:30 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Torrocca wrote:You know that reality's just a cruel, macabre joke of itself when this bullshit is actually real and happening in our lifetime.

Fuck that murderous bastard Zimmerman. Things would be ever so slightly better if Martin had survived and this fuckwit wasn't able to get away with this shit.

If he had survived both of them would be in prison for assault and battery.

Or Trayvon would have successfully argued that he was defending himself. We will never know.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:32 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:If he had survived both of them would be in prison for assault and battery.


I can't actually speak for the dead, but if I had to guess, I'm pretty sure that Trayvon would've much rather been alive and imprisoned than murdered.

Would it have been murder if Trayvon had beaten Zimmerman to death if Zimmerman had been unarmed that night?

There lies the question, if he had been unarmed, Trayvon might have been the one doing the murdering that night.

Really it's ironic that it looked like they both foolishly wanted to do the same thing that night, look like a badass by getting someone they thought was bad.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I can't actually speak for the dead, but if I had to guess, I'm pretty sure that Trayvon would've much rather been alive and imprisoned than murdered.

Would it have been murder if Trayvon had beaten Zimmerman to death if Zimmerman had been unarmed that night?

There lies the question, if he had been unarmed, Trayvon might have been the one doing the murdering that night.

Really it's ironic that it looked like they both foolishly wanted to do the same thing that night, look like a badass by getting someone they thought was bad.


Let’s not forget the 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman not to engage.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:38 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Torrocca wrote:You know that reality's just a cruel, macabre joke of itself when this bullshit is actually real and happening in our lifetime.

Fuck that murderous bastard Zimmerman. Things would be ever so slightly better if Martin had survived and this fuckwit wasn't able to get away with this shit.

If he had survived both of them would be in prison for assault and battery.


Trayvon surviving implies that he probably killed Zimmerman because it was Trayvon who assaulted him first. So instead we've have another case of violent crime committed by a black male but nobody would really care and it wouldn't even be a blip on the local news because we as Americans are so desensitized to this.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:40 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I can't actually speak for the dead, but if I had to guess, I'm pretty sure that Trayvon would've much rather been alive and imprisoned than murdered.

Would it have been murder if Trayvon had beaten Zimmerman to death if Zimmerman had been unarmed that night?

There lies the question, if he had been unarmed, Trayvon might have been the one doing the murdering that night.

Really it's ironic that it looked like they both foolishly wanted to do the same thing that night, look like a badass by getting someone they thought was bad.


I mean, Trayvon wasn't stalkerishly hunting down Zimmerman on what was practically a racist, murderous bent. It was the other way around, in fact.
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