NATION

PASSWORD

Family names among your nation's people.

A place to put national factbooks, embassy exchanges, and other information regarding the nations of the world. [In character]
User avatar
Maizan
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 21
Founded: Nov 27, 2019
Capitalist Paradise

Family names among your nation's people.

Postby Maizan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:52 pm

Most cultures have adopted by the modern era a custom of giving people an inherited surname or family name in addition to their personal name. Some have done so long ago and naturally, while others only recently and at the insistence of a modernizing bureaucracy. Still some have not adopted surnames at all, or only immediate patronymics. How do family names work among your nation's primary culture?

Code: Select all
[b]Does your nation's primary culture use surnames or family names?[/b]:
[b]From whom do they inherit the surname?[/b]:
[b]How long ago did Surnames develop?[/b]:
[b]What are a few examples of common or notable surnames in your nation. and what do they mean?[/b]:


Does your nation's primary culture use surnames or family names?: Yes
From whom do they inherit the surname?: The Father
How long ago did Surnames develop?: 1500 years before modern times.
What are a few examples of common or notable surnames in your nation. and what do they mean?: Sumāre (meaning red rose) is by far the most common surname in Maizan, held by roughly 1 in 70 Maizanese, in part due to success, and in part due to a multugenesis of the name (red roses were planted in front of a priest's home, and their families got the surname). Other common surnames include Wuku (Horn, with its roots among huntsmen and woodsmen), or Dikaebegisu (Ship-maker). The most common Maizanese surnames originated as something occupational in nature, though a variation of reasons for surnames exist.

User avatar
Gleissar
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 12
Founded: Jan 29, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Gleissar » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:29 pm

Does your nation's primary culture use surnames or family names?:It uses both. Surnames are used for history and family names are used for genealogical data. A person may and usually has both.
From whom do they inherit the surname?:Father or family name from most prominent grandparent or great-grandparent
How long ago did Surnames develop?:From olden times. appx 200 - 400 AD onward
What are a few examples of common or notable surnames in your nation. and what do they mean?:

Top 10 Surnames of Gleissar in the early 21st Century (As is Gleissarische custom, variations in spelling are ignored)

Rabenfetter (Bold Raven)
Starkizer, Sterkizzer, Sterkeiser, etc (Strong Iron)
Kormakken (Charioteer)
Befrindenstitscher (Friend Maker, Diplomat)
Skampvarliche, Skemberlok, Shamwerlock, etc (War Camp)
Kofferruyd (Red-Head)
Wiking, Osvikinne, etc (Intrepid)
Geizenstomper (Face-Puncher)
Odonner -- a Hebride Gualische name whose meaning (in Gleissar) is lost to history. but thought to mean Son/Daughter of Thunder. (IRL O'Donnell - World-Mighty)
Gekenbrandt (literally a "fool on fire" taken as a badge of honor by a valorous knight from Stanverk who beat overwhelming odds and saved the country)
Zwoordmacher, (Swordsmilth)
Last edited by Gleissar on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:47 pm, edited 5 times in total.

User avatar
The New Dog Nation
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1680
Founded: Mar 15, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The New Dog Nation » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:33 am

Does your nation's primary culture use surnames or family names?: Yes

From whom do they inherit the surname?: Most surnames are patrilineal, a few however use the "breed system" where they adopt a surname based on the breed there parents identified them as, such as our current Acting President Alexander Pomeranian. This processes has largely fallen out of favor however as it is seen as a remnant of the old empire, with cared about those things....

How long ago did Surnames develop?: The process dates back to before we even arrived in this universe. We believe its origins are human in nature.

What are a few examples of common or notable surnames in your nation. and what do they mean?:

X-Son Names (Jackson, Richardson, Ect): Originally used to indicate who the father was, they have since become used as regular surnames, even if nobody is named Jack, Richard, ect
Occupational Surnames (Gardner, Carpenter, Ect): Originally used to indicate profession but are now used as regular surnames.
Dog Themed Names (Dogston, Dogger, Ect): A Practice started after we gained sapience as a means to distance ourselves from humans.
Breed Names (Pomeranian, Lab, Ect): See Above
All Posts are Handled by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Please consult Minister Cooper Bailey for Further Questions



The ultimate source of procrastination is back baby...woot.

User avatar
TURTLESHROOM II
Minister
 
Posts: 3072
Founded: Dec 08, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:12 am

Does your nation's primary culture use surnames or family names?:
Yes. Humans used a combination of traditional English naming conventions and Russian naming conventions. A human is given a first and middle name their third name (the Russian one) is generated from their father, and their surname is inherited from the father. Turtles, meanwhile, are matriarchal and thus inherit their Russian patronym from the mother. Their surname is also inherited from the mother and married turtles always make the husband take the wife's name.

For their middle names, humans and turtles used a combination of traditional English naming conventions and Russian naming conventions. The two main forms are either "father's first name--ivich/-ovich" or "assign anything", and they are split about equal among newborns and hatchlings.

All TurtleShroomers officially have four names on their birth certificate and in legal documentation, but when speaking or writing outside of the utmost formal circumstances, only three are used. On birth certificates, the creature's four names is listed as FIRST NAME/MIDDLE NAME/RUSSIAN SUFFIX/SURNAME. If the middle name is the same as the Russian patronym convention, three names are listed.


From whom do they inherit the surname?:
Turtles inherit their surname and Russian patronym from their mother. Their first name is given. A turtle's middle name (if they give one instead of just using the patronym) is also given.

Humans inherit their surname and Russian patronym from their father. Their first name is given. A turtle's middle name, if they choose one instead of just using the patronym, is also given.

Sapient mushrooms are more complex. They mature to adult-level cognizance and maturity in five years or much less, though they have to learn at the same rate as all the other creatures. After a certain number of years, mushrooms are given the opportunity to either choose their own first and last name or have one generated for them. (Most mushrooms choose generation, which leads to names like "Jesse Rod".)


How long ago did Surnames develop?:
The original founders of the Missionary colony that would go on to convert and unite TurtleShroom were a mix of English and Russian settlers. Both brought their naming conventions, which were finalized in 1800 AD when TurtleShroom officially switched from Russian to English as her national language.


This was sourced, in part, from previous posts.
Last edited by TURTLESHROOM II on Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
Jesus loves you and died for you!
World Factbook
First Constitution
Legation Quarter
"NOOKULAR" STOCKPILE: 821,333.
CM wrote:Have I reached peak enlightened centrism yet? I'm getting chills just thinking about taking an actual position.
News ticker (updated 8/03/2019 AD):

Doctors lead protest to re-legalize cocaine as medicine, overturn 1985 GAT precedent -|- X86 MS-DOS perfected -|- PEACE AT LAST: TURTLESHROOM CIVIL WAR ENDS ON 10-12-2018 AD, FIRST TURTLESHROOMIAN STATE DISSOLVED

User avatar
Victorious Decepticons
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8160
Founded: Sep 15, 2008
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:27 pm

Does your nation's primary culture use surnames or family names?: No. Each Decepticon is his own person, and not property of his Coder or any other ancestors.
From whom do they inherit the surname?: There aren't any. In fact, at maturity, we will choose our own first names and jettison the ones our Coders gave us. This is a strong, though unofficial, rite of adulthood.
How long ago did Surnames develop?: They never did.
What are a few examples of common or notable surnames in your nation. and what do they mean?: N/A

Foreigners that use non-sapient computers that are unable to deal with single names typically break our first names into "two names." This is because many of us use compound words as our names, like Soundwave, Thundercracker, etc. However, not all of our names can be broken down this way. Megatron is probably the most notable of these. In his case, foreign systems often use "Leader" as his first name.

Some other individuals do not get so lucky when it comes the respectability of a name made up just to fill the blank name fields, not that they would necessarily recognize being called things like "Thief" and "Fraudster" as the insults and warnings such sobriquets are generally intended to be when used by outsiders.
No war RPs; no open RPs.

Explosive .50 cal shells vs. Decepticons: REAL, IRL PROOF the Decepticons would laugh at them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeVTZlNQfPA
Newaswa wrote:What is the greatest threat to your nation?
Vallermoore wrote:The Victorious Decepticons.

Bluquse wrote:Imperialist, aggressive, and genociding aliens or interdimensional beings that would most likely slaughter or enslave us
rather than meet up to have a talk. :(

TurtleShroom wrote:Also, like any sane, civilized nation, we always consider the Victorious Decepticons a clear, present, and obvious threat we must respect, honor, and leave alone in all circumstances. Always fear the Victorious Decepticons.


The Huskar Social Union wrote: ... massive empires of genocidal machines.

User avatar
Xanthal
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1033
Founded: Apr 16, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Xanthal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:19 pm

Xanthal is a federation of equals, it has no "primary culture." Naming conventions vary. Some examples follow.

In Trasnia, you can name your child anything you want; most commonly this includes one or two surnames. The surname(s) are often inherited from one or both parents or derived from a cultural touchstone, but can be entirely original. They can also be legally changed at any time for a fee, which is not rare. Married couples may or may not adopt a shared last name.

Mirfakan surnames are traditionally matrilineal and generally kept for life.

Than are born in communal egg clutches thousands at a time; only after metamorphosis are they identified individually, first by pheromones and later choosing their own given names, which may include a name by which they can be called among humanoids. Everyone who participated in the spawn is family- there are no surnames.

Talmaraani surnames are derived from the names of former lords. Nuclear families will commonly adopt a common family name on the basis of status.

Aellis does not provide for the use of legal surnames- the state is the most important parent- however it's fairly common for a child to inherit the given name of an ancestor.

Many people in Shinra use a chain naming system.

By tradition, Xanthalian Abh assign the mother's or father's family name to a child on the basis of its sex.

Nekolan most often use matrilineal or aspirational surnames.
General Assembly IC
Security Council OOC


Return to Factbooks and National Information

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Gallade, Gallia-, Harmonic Empire, Valentian Elysium

Advertisement

Remove ads