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[DRAFT] Liberate The New Iron Order

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Ballpit
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[DRAFT] Liberate The New Iron Order

Postby Ballpit » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:12 pm

The Security Council,

Acknowledging that The New Iron Order is currently foundered;

Appalled by the region's promotion of Fascism and self identification as such;

Abhorred that The New Iron Order supports an ideology of hatred and discrimination;

Concerned that The New Iron Order will attempt to indoctrinate new nations into the ideology of Fascism;

Believing that any such region does not deserve the luxury of border protection;

Further Believing that Liberating The New Iron Order will serve as a warning to other regions of the dangers of promoting an ideology of hatred and intolerance;

Noting that Liberating The New Iron Order will leave it open to invasion when the founder ceases to exist;

Hereby Liberates The New Iron Order
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:22 am

OOC: No, giving them attention doesn't shrink them
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Postby Malphe » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:30 am

All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:32 am

We should do it for the hell of it
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Postby Ballpit » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:05 pm

Malphe wrote:All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.


I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD. Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO. Excellent points made though, Malphe. Thanks! :)
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Postby Wayneactia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:23 am

Ballpit wrote:
Malphe wrote:All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.


I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD. Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO. Excellent points made though, Malphe. Thanks! :)


And the liberation of the CCD has accomplished absolutely nothing, other than give them more attention.

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Postby Tupolite » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:03 pm

Ballpit wrote:Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO.


Although the founder of the so-called New Iron Order is indeed the same individual (Hispanyo) as the founder of the Iron Confederacy, I feel obligated to inform you that TNIO is not the legitimate successor state to TIC. Instead, that honor belongs to Nuevo Amanecer.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:09 pm

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Ballpit
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Postby Ballpit » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:38 pm

Tupolite wrote:
Ballpit wrote:Not to mention TNIO is the successor region of TIC, which fell due to the deletion of the founder, who is the same founder of TNIO.


Although the founder of the so-called New Iron Order is indeed the same individual (Hispanyo) as the founder of the Iron Confederacy, I feel obligated to inform you that TNIO is not the legitimate successor state to TIC. Instead, that honor belongs to Nuevo Amanecer.

Does it though? :thinking:
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BlackLight Covenant
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Postby BlackLight Covenant » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:25 am

Never heard of them before until this proposal showed up, so either I'm living under a rock, which is definitely possible all things considered, or TNIO is fairly irrelevant, which would turn this proposal into a free ad for them.

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:52 am

This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.
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Postby Aclion » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:41 am

Ballpit wrote:
Malphe wrote:All for messing with fascists but the region is tiny and the founder is showing no signs of CTEing soon, unless they get themselves DEAT again. Don't think regions with 15 nations, a good amount of which are probably sleepers anyways, is worth an offensive lib before the founder has CTE'd.


I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD.

Which was a stupid idea of which the people involved should be ashamed and which we should not repeat.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:08 pm

Aclion wrote:
Ballpit wrote:
I concede, the region is indeed small. And while it is true, the founder is alive and not showing signs of CTEing soon, that didn't stop a proposal from being written, drafted, and approved as an offensive liberation for CCD.

Which was a stupid idea of which the people involved should be ashamed and which we should not repeat.

I don't plan on feeling shame for that any time soon.

In regards to this proposal, the target region appears to lack size or general notoriety outside a specific group of Gameplay, for which I am thus opposed.
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Munkcestrian Republic
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:54 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals :roll:
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:54 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals :roll:

like the early WA proposals are bad enough... imagine what it was like in the UN days!
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:36 am

Just because someone is more experienced in the SC doesn't mean they can't call out lazy badgehunt attempts.
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:08 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals :roll:

Hardly. If you read some of the early passed SC proposals they’re pretty poorly written and one or two would be illegal by current rules.

Anyway haven’t you got better things to do like getting an independent Northumbria. :)
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Postby Ary Turn Bla » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:52 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:This is the worst of all types of badge hunt; it’s a lazy badge hunt.

You’ve aimed to do the least amount of work possible to try and get a proposal passed. Your clauses are unoriginal and derivative. It’s like you’ve taken a checklist of phrases and inserted them.

Fascist/Nazi region - check.
Hateful ideology - check.
Indoctrinate new nations - check.

It’s a paint by numbers exercise and totally unworthy of ever making the SC books.

self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals :roll:

Well it is quite clearly a badge hunt and not blind accusations

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Munkcestrian Republic
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:16 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:self-described "old farts" getting angry over new(er) nations (well, compared to them) proposing things so they accuse them of going on a badge hunt

because back in your day you lot made much better proposals :roll:

Hardly. If you read some of the early passed SC proposals they’re pretty poorly written and one or two would be illegal by current rules.

Anyway haven’t you got better things to do like getting an independent Northumbria. :)

no shit!

damn! you have revealed my participation in NSG, what will I do now :( anyway no b/c the mods told me to stop posting Northumbrian independence threads
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:07 pm

Against. The offensive liberation craze is done, and that’s a good thing.
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Gagium
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Postby Gagium » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:25 am

Against, they don't deserve a badge or recognization from the Security Council in any form or manner.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:01 am

Gagium wrote:Against, they don't deserve a badge or recognization from the Security Council in any form or manner.

Why not?
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Postby Borjkir Prime » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:09 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Gagium wrote:Against, they don't deserve a badge or recognization from the Security Council in any form or manner.

Why not?

Because they are fascists, allowing them to spread their message will spread hateful ideology

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:41 pm

Borjkir Prime wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Why not?

Because they are fascists, allowing them to spread their message will spread hateful ideology

Fascism isn't Nazism.
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Postby Wayneactia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:39 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Borjkir Prime wrote:Because they are fascists, allowing them to spread their message will spread hateful ideology

Fascism isn't Nazism.

The main core principals of fascism are xenophobia and racism. It is close enough. Now if I was you I would stop while you are ahead here.
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