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East Gondwana
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Postby East Gondwana » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:42 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Pangurstan wrote:What about sun bears?
They live in the rainforest, so ironically, they might not see that much sun.

They don't need sun because they're so bright and warm all by themselves
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:16 am

Trotterdam wrote:I don't care that much about weather. It's nice to have, but I'm trying to make a nation that's good across-the-board, not one that maximizes one thing to the exclusion of everything else. Plus, the game's simplistic "sunny weather is better" interpretation is questionable anyway. Farmers need rain occasionally, and thunderstorms are cool, and kids like playing in the snow.


NS stats unrealistic? NEVER!

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Valentine Z
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#2-10: Public Education (Y) vs Public Transport (X)

Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:35 pm

Sorry for the delay, but here's the next one! Public Education vs Public Transport!

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So... what do we have here? Another strong correlation! Though, of course, not as strong as the previous one. Let's look into it deeper.

There is a general increase between Public Education and Public Transport, so if you have a government willing to spend large amounts of their budget on Public Education, they will do the same with Public Transports as well! Let's look at some exceptions, of course.

Out of the data appended, 249 nations are below 1700th for Public Transport.

Only 132 nations are below 1700th (Top 1%) for Public Transport AND Public Education. Some of the exceptions below:
  • Ransium at it again with 8877.50 / 909th for Public Transport, and -10.95 / 169228th for Public Education!
  • Mad Citizens at 7938.64 / 1266th for Public Transport, and -21.91 / 170224th for Public Education.
  • 6 nations with < 1700th for Public Transport, but less than 1000 score for Public Education.

The opposite can happen.
  • Tweekia at -30.98 / 170408th for Public Transport, and 26646.70 / 639th for Public Education.
  • Nova Prussia at -32.86 / 170398th for Public Transport, and 33291.61 / 271st for Public Education.
  • 11 nations with < 1700th for Public Education, but less than 1000 score for Public Transport.
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Postby Ransium » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:01 pm

Glad I can consistently defy your correlations :p

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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:08 pm

Ransium wrote:Glad I can consistently defy your correlations :p

Maybe minus Public Transport vs Public Healthcare. 2 out of 3 defied, though, 2 out of 3. :clap:
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:31 am

Valentine Z wrote:There is a general increase between Public Education and Public Transport, so if you have a government willing to spend large amounts of their budget on Public Education, they will do the same with Public Transports as well! Let's look at some exceptions, of course.

Out of the data appended, 249 nations are below 1700th for Public Transport.

Only 132 nations are below 1700th (Top 1%) for Public Transport AND Public Education. Some of the exceptions below:
  • Ransium at it again with 8877.50 / 909th for Public Transport, and -10.95 / 169228th for Public Education!
  • Mad Citizens at 7938.64 / 1266th for Public Transport, and -21.91 / 170224th for Public Education.
  • 6 nations with < 1700th for Public Transport, but less than 1000 score for Public Education.

The opposite can happen.
  • Tweekia at -30.98 / 170408th for Public Transport, and 26646.70 / 639th for Public Education.
  • Nova Prussia at -32.86 / 170398th for Public Transport, and 33291.61 / 271st for Public Education.
  • 11 nations with < 1700th for Public Education, but less than 1000 score for Public Transport.

For comparison: Bears Armed is in the top 08% for Public Education, bottom 01% for Public Transport...
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:01 am

Bears Armed wrote:For comparison: Bears Armed is in the top 08% for Public Education, bottom 01% for Public Transport...

WA Census Takers forgot the fact that people in your country uses bears for transport instead of the normal buses, trains, taxis, etc... They missed the bears! :P

Top 8% for Pub Education, Bottom for Pub Healthcare as well, oh noes. Err... Bear Herbs? Sorry, my jokes are unbearable...
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:07 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:For comparison: Bears Armed is in the top 08% for Public Education, bottom 01% for Public Transport...

WA Census Takers forgot the fact that people in your country uses bears for transport instead of the normal buses, trains, taxis, etc...

In the sense that most of urrs generally prefer to walk, rather than to rely on machines, and often aren't very interested in long-distance travel, yes.
Also, the survey seems to consider only state-organised systems as 'public' and thus to ignore the possibility of commercially-run railways... which is what this nation has.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:09 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:WA Census Takers forgot the fact that people in your country uses bears for transport instead of the normal buses, trains, taxis, etc...

In the sense that most of urrs generally prefer to walk, rather than to rely on machines, and often aren't very interested in long-distance travel, yes.
Also, the survey seems to consider only state-organised systems as 'public' and thus to ignore the possibility of commercially-run railways... which is what this nation has.

Huh... never thought of that last part! Makes sense, actually... Maybe there is no state-run public transport, but there are still commercially-run public transport. They're owned by private companies, but technically still public transport if these companies allow everyone to use it instead of "Umbrella Corp's Employees Only!"

At least... I think so! ^^;
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:27 pm

Yeah, I'd consider it "public transport" even if a private company is running it. That's a nuance the game can't currently model. (Conversely, there are also many "industry sectors" which are assumed to be privately-run by default, and while it's possible for a nation to have wholly or partly state-owned industry, that's a blanket effect that applies to the whole economy, without the simulation granularity to just nationalize one industry while keeping others privatized.)

Though in reality every viable public transportation system (except maybe taxis, which are ridiculously expensive) is going to have at least a bit of government support in the form of zoning bus stops, building railways or at least setting aside suitable areas of land for them, etc., even if private companies are operating the actual vehicles.

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Postby Angshire » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:42 am

Wow, it seems like I have a lot of suggestions! Since I really liked that original one with Economy vs. Economic Freedom, I thought of a couple others.

1.) Civil Rights vs Economic Freedom
2.) Political Freedom vs Economic Freedom
3.) Corruption vs Economic Freedom
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:15 am

Angshire wrote:Wow, it seems like I have a lot of suggestions! Since I really liked that original one with Economy vs. Economic Freedom, I thought of a couple others.

1.) Civil Rights vs Economic Freedom
2.) Political Freedom vs Economic Freedom
3.) Corruption vs Economic Freedom

Added! ^^
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#2-11: Public Healthcare (Y) vs Public Transport (X)

Postby Valentine Z » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:29 am

Sorry for the delay! I have been... I have been sleeping too damn hard for these past few days! Here's the next comparison!

Linear-Linear:
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Linear-Log:
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Log-Linear:
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Log-Log:
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A stronger correlation here, it seems! So... if your government spends more on Public Transport, there's a higher chance that they will also spend on Public Healthcare! This time, Ransium is no longer the exception, at 28439.90 / 28th for Public Healthcare, and 8877.50 / 909th for Public Transport! :P

But now for the real exceptions! At first, there are 251 nations with < 1700th for Public Healthcare, 249 nations with < 1700th for Public Transport, and 163 nations with < 1700th for both.

High Healthcare (< 1700th), Low Transport (< 0 Score):
  • 2 nations - Cyrenean and Tweekia.
  • Cyrenean with 18186.99 / 267th for Public Healthcare. -38.08 / 170479th for Public Transport.
  • Tweekia with 22971.30 / 84th for Public Healthcare. -30.98 / 170408th for Public Transport.

Low Healthcare, High Transport:
  • 1 lonely nation - Wyoma! -53.57 / 170471st for Public Healthcare, 8125.61 / 1193rd for Public Transport.

Low Healthcare, Low Transport:
  • 479 nations!
  • Lowest goes to Northern Borland for both. -117.94 / 170790th for Public Healthcare, -124.94 / 170795th for Public Transport.
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