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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:23 am

Well, I woke up to a huge raw amount of anger in the news today and boy oh boy, I'm still trying to figure out how it makes any sense to anyone.

Disney has found their prince — and Christian Navarro is not happy about it. Shortly after it was announced that Jonah Hauer-King had landed the role of Ariel’s love interest, Prince Eric, in the upcoming live-action retelling of TheLittle Mermaid, Navarro, 28, shared his thoughts about the casting decision on social media.

In two since-deleted posts on Instagram and Twitter, the 13 Reasons Why star — who was also reportedly in the running for the role of Prince Eric — slammed Disney for their alleged lack of diversity.

“Literally @disney saw a who’s who list of actors of color and STILL went with the white guy,” he wrote on Instagram alongside a photo of Hauer-King, which was captured by a fan before it was removed. “So much for diversity. I guess two brown leads would have tanked the movie right? Boring.”

Navarro also took his frustrations out by reactivating his Twitter, posting a tweet about the casting, and subsequently deactivating his account.

“Just came back to say; after months of seeing every person of color they could think of for the role of Prince Eric, @DisneyStudios somehow still cast a white guy,” he tweeted. “I guess diversity is just a word. And THATS Hollywood.”

“One brown person is enough, two brown leads is unthinkable,” he added, referencing Halle Bailey who is set to star opposite Hauer-King as Ariel.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/1 ... ?ocid=AMZN

I could tell you that I was bothered by Christian's broad brush labelling of minorities as brown people but that wouldn't compare to how much I shook my head at his anger in general.

Like let me get this straight, you're mad that they had several actors who auditioned for the role who were non whites, and they picked a white guy in the end? It's like Navarro doesn't wanna see any white people in the film, or at least in the lead role. This guy legit reactivated his Twitter just to complain that they picked a white guy to play Prince Eric? I believe Navarro is getting up in arms over nothing, although some may disagree. So what are your thoughts nationstates? Do you think Christian Navarro is right to be mad that they picked a white dude to play Prince Eric or is he himself being the racist?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:27 am

Ah so the everything is racist trend continues. Hopefully it will end eventually. And I hope everyone sees this for what it is, an actor who is upset they didn’t pick him
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:Ah so the everything is racist trend continues. Hopefully it will end eventually.


The message being sent seems to be that it's only not racist if there's no white people around...which in itself is ironically very racist.

I mean how can you say you aren't racist when they pick a guy for a role and you're mad about his race...and he is the same race as the original character too, so now it's clear you're just that much of a bigot
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Postby Satuga » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 am

This has been going on for a while, people claiming that because a lead role is a white person they must not be diverse. Honestly this literally just pushes the thought that "Diversity means less white people" which shouldn't be true at all, it should mean everyone is included not just one race/skin color.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:34 am

Sounds like someone just throwing a temper tantrum because they didn’t get the part.

But unfortunately people are going to lap this up.
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:27 am

First I've heard of any controversy tbh.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:15 am

What news sources do you frequent that consider this news? I hate to break it to you but this sounds like something from a bubble. A bit like people who get worked up over ea/activision controversies. This is one person nobody has heard of getting mad about a movie our kids won't hear about for a few years...
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Postby Rainbowsix » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:17 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Well, I woke up to a huge raw amount of anger in the news today and boy oh boy, I'm still trying to figure out how it makes any sense to anyone.

Disney has found their prince — and Christian Navarro is not happy about it. Shortly after it was announced that Jonah Hauer-King had landed the role of Ariel’s love interest, Prince Eric, in the upcoming live-action retelling of TheLittle Mermaid, Navarro, 28, shared his thoughts about the casting decision on social media.

In two since-deleted posts on Instagram and Twitter, the 13 Reasons Why star — who was also reportedly in the running for the role of Prince Eric — slammed Disney for their alleged lack of diversity.

“Literally @disney saw a who’s who list of actors of color and STILL went with the white guy,” he wrote on Instagram alongside a photo of Hauer-King, which was captured by a fan before it was removed. “So much for diversity. I guess two brown leads would have tanked the movie right? Boring.”

Navarro also took his frustrations out by reactivating his Twitter, posting a tweet about the casting, and subsequently deactivating his account.

“Just came back to say; after months of seeing every person of color they could think of for the role of Prince Eric, @DisneyStudios somehow still cast a white guy,” he tweeted. “I guess diversity is just a word. And THATS Hollywood.”

“One brown person is enough, two brown leads is unthinkable,” he added, referencing Halle Bailey who is set to star opposite Hauer-King as Ariel.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/1 ... ?ocid=AMZN

I could tell you that I was bothered by Christian's broad brush labelling of minorities as brown people but that wouldn't compare to how much I shook my head at his anger in general.

Like let me get this straight, you're mad that they had several actors who auditioned for the role who were non whites, and they picked a white guy in the end? It's like Navarro doesn't wanna see any white people in the film, or at least in the lead role. This guy legit reactivated his Twitter just to complain that they picked a white guy to play Prince Eric? I believe Navarro is getting up in arms over nothing, although some may disagree. So what are your thoughts nationstates? Do you think Christian Navarro is right to be mad that they picked a white dude to play Prince Eric or is he himself being the racist?

completely irrelevant to the convo but what role did navarro play in 13 reasons why?
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:17 am

It might be racist. It also might not be. Not that one person having a hissy fit over it matters.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:18 am

Sovaal wrote:Sounds like someone just throwing a temper tantrum because they didn’t get the part.

But unfortunately people are going to lap this up.

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Postby Earth Orbit » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:21 am

This reminds me of that time Apple's "diversity leader" or whatever got fired for saying that a room full of blonde-haired, blue-eyed white guys is still diverse, since they all have different life experiences. This outrage is just kinda stupid; pick the person with the best qualifications and appearance for the role. Race shouldn't factor in unless you explicitly need someone of that race (i.e. a movie about MLK Jr, for example. You probably want a black actor who somewhat looks like him, not some white guy.)
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:24 am

Earth Orbit wrote:This reminds me of that time Apple's "diversity leader" or whatever got fired for saying that a room full of blonde-haired, blue-eyed white guys is still diverse, since they all have different life experiences. This outrage is just kinda stupid; pick the person with the best qualifications and appearance for the role. Race shouldn't factor in unless you explicitly need someone of that race (i.e. a movie about MLK Jr, for example. You probably want a black actor who somewhat looks like him, not some white guy.)


Or cast a white guy and use makeup. It'll be fine.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:26 am

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Earth Orbit wrote:This reminds me of that time Apple's "diversity leader" or whatever got fired for saying that a room full of blonde-haired, blue-eyed white guys is still diverse, since they all have different life experiences. This outrage is just kinda stupid; pick the person with the best qualifications and appearance for the role. Race shouldn't factor in unless you explicitly need someone of that race (i.e. a movie about MLK Jr, for example. You probably want a black actor who somewhat looks like him, not some white guy.)


Or cast a white guy and use makeup. It'll be fine.

I can't think of a single problem that could be caused by doing this.
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Postby Rainbowsix » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:27 am

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Or cast a white guy and use makeup. It'll be fine.

I can't think of a single problem that could be caused by doing this.

ehhh it'll be fine.. im pretty sure nothing will go wrong :)
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:49 am

Satuga wrote:This has been going on for a while, people claiming that because a lead role is a white person they must not be diverse. Honestly this literally just pushes the thought that "Diversity means less white people" which shouldn't be true at all, it should mean everyone is included not just one race/skin color.

Including everyone instead of having nothing but white people does mean fewer white people. There are only so many films being made, you know.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Well, I woke up to a huge raw amount of anger in the news today and boy oh boy, I'm still trying to figure out how it makes any sense to anyone.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/1 ... ?ocid=AMZN

I could tell you that I was bothered by Christian's broad brush labelling of minorities as brown people but that wouldn't compare to how much I shook my head at his anger in general.

Like let me get this straight, you're mad that they had several actors who auditioned for the role who were non whites, and they picked a white guy in the end? It's like Navarro doesn't wanna see any white people in the film, or at least in the lead role. This guy legit reactivated his Twitter just to complain that they picked a white guy to play Prince Eric? I believe Navarro is getting up in arms over nothing, although some may disagree. So what are your thoughts nationstates? Do you think Christian Navarro is right to be mad that they picked a white dude to play Prince Eric or is he himself being the racist?

completely irrelevant to the convo but what role did navarro play in 13 reasons why?
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:54 am

Christian Navarro sounds like an annoying sixth former angry they didn't get picked tbh.
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Postby Earth Orbit » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:57 am

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Satuga wrote:This has been going on for a while, people claiming that because a lead role is a white person they must not be diverse. Honestly this literally just pushes the thought that "Diversity means less white people" which shouldn't be true at all, it should mean everyone is included not just one race/skin color.

Including everyone instead of having nothing but white people does mean fewer white people. There are only so many films being made, you know.


I think what he means is specifically targeting white people to be removed/reduced from the role candidacy/actor pool (which would be racist, and what some people want), rather than just adding some more minorities to the existing pool (which would be fine.)
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It's almost as if these people find white people themselves to be offensive.
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Honestly, stuff like this is the reason why racism still exists in the US... They keep bringing it up, even when it's not there.
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Honestly who even really cares? We all know the movie is going to be shit, and we can just tack this on as another reason. We can roll our eyes and hold contempt for their manufactured "diversity", but at the end of it all, nothing of importance will occur.
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Bear Stearns wrote:It's almost as if these people find white people themselves to be offensive.

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Postby Kheshiga » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:12 am

This is a children's movie made by a hegemonic corporate entity. Maybe that's why I find it difficult to care about what amounts to tabloid beef that's only going to give one of the larget entertainment conglomerates more press.

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