Rakenshi wrote:The only way true democracy takes a hold of Cuba, is if American capitalism finds its way into the island and flushes all the communism straight out.
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by Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:31 am
Rakenshi wrote:The only way true democracy takes a hold of Cuba, is if American capitalism finds its way into the island and flushes all the communism straight out.
by Cantelo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:34 am
Gormwood wrote:Cantelo wrote:The embargo on Cuba is such a pointless and hypocritical relic of the Cold War that continues "just because." If we trade with openly despotic countries such as China, then how can we pretend that we're blockading Cuba due to some nebulous concept of freedom for the Cuban people? They ain't no liberal paradise but they're no North Korea, either.
This blockade just hurts the people who have family on the island. I have a classmate who was nearly in tears because the Department of State recently began restricting all flights to Cuba except for Havana, and his family lives on the opposite end of Havana. It's just gross and callous.
Combination of pandering to the Cuban exile community who had their goodies taken away by Castro and Trump trying to say "Up Yours, Nigger" to Obama after he began defrosting relations with Cuba and allowed travel there.
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by NS Miami » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:35 am
Cantelo wrote:Gormwood wrote:Combination of pandering to the Cuban exile community who had their goodies taken away by Castro and Trump trying to say "Up Yours, Nigger" to Obama after he began defrosting relations with Cuba and allowed travel there.
I'm not Cuban myself but our family friends are almost all Cubans. They tend to lean Republican and I think it's because they're effectively traumatized from their experiences in Cuba and so they slingshot all the way to the right along with their kids. I think only a couple of them still have connections to their families on the island, the rest just give the whole country the finger. Republicans have a pretty sizeable voting block in the form of Florida Cubans so I imagine that (like you said) they're vigorously pandering to them.
by Cantelo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:42 am
NS Miami wrote:Cantelo wrote:
I'm not Cuban myself but our family friends are almost all Cubans. They tend to lean Republican and I think it's because they're effectively traumatized from their experiences in Cuba and so they slingshot all the way to the right along with their kids. I think only a couple of them still have connections to their families on the island, the rest just give the whole country the finger. Republicans have a pretty sizeable voting block in the form of Florida Cubans so I imagine that (like you said) they're vigorously pandering to them.
I am a native Cuban and American citizen.
The Democrats Pander to Black African Americans and other ethnic and political groups during election time, no different than the Republicans.
But I would rather have an anti Cuban regime Trump administration than a Pro Cuban regime democrat President. All the Democratic Presidential candidates support the Cuban regime, especially Bernie Sanders.
From my own personal political perspective as a native Cuban and American citizen, for obvious reasons, they are deplorables and a basket of deplorables on the issue of Cuba, as Hillary Clinton would say, but actually I say. Hillary Clinton coined the Phrase Deplorables and basket of Deplorables in American Politics.
As the Cuban regime, Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel say we are the continuity of the revolution, of the eternal revolution, another set of deplorables and basket of deplorables on the Cuba issues.
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by -Astoria » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:44 am
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by NS Miami » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:47 am
Cantelo wrote:NS Miami wrote:I am a native Cuban and American citizen.
The Democrats Pander to Black African Americans and other ethnic and political groups during election time, no different than the Republicans.
But I would rather have an anti Cuban regime Trump administration than a Pro Cuban regime democrat President. All the Democratic Presidential candidates support the Cuban regime, especially Bernie Sanders.
From my own personal political perspective as a native Cuban and American citizen, for obvious reasons, they are deplorables and a basket of deplorables on the issue of Cuba, as Hillary Clinton would say, but actually I say. Hillary Clinton coined the Phrase Deplorables and basket of Deplorables in American Politics.
As the Cuban regime, Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel say we are the continuity of the revolution, of the eternal revolution, another set of deplorables and basket of deplorables on the Cuba issues.
I'm not going to delve further into the partisan side of things. It's a travesty that people who still have family on the island are now facing a more difficult time visiting their relatives due to a bogus embargo that has no beneficial purpose anymore. Cuba's government is an unfortunate part of life for Cubans, but why should the expats and their families have to suffer for it? The entire rest of the world has formal relations with Cuba, and the US should honestly just let go for the sake of normalizing relations and making it easier for Cuban-Americans to visit family there.
by NS Miami » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:00 am
Source from Spain El Pais:
https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/11/14/in ... 32156.html
Spain’s King Felipe VI made a plea in support of democracy and human rights during a speech on Wednesday in front of Cuban President Miguel Díaz-Canel. After stating that change cannot be forced from the outside, in allusion to US pressure for regime change, the king insisted that “human rights are best defended in a democracy.”
The king used the 1978 Spanish Constitution as a model, arguing it was “based on agreement, negotiation, consensus and reconciliation,” and said it had allowed Spain to see its “best years as a fully democratic country.”
“From this Constitution and from our very history, Spaniards have learned that human rights, freedom and the dignity of people and the interests of our citizens are best represented and defended in a democracy,” he added.
Although the Cuban president was not expected to make any speeches at the event, and did not speak at the dinner on Tuesday, he decided to respond to Felipe VI’s plea. In his reply, Díaz-Canel defended the sovereignty and independence of Cubans to decide the rhythm and reach of its own changes. “On this path that we have willingly chosen, it is important to count on the accompaniment of your true friends in the world, and the Spaniards are among them,” he said.
Spanish King Felipe VI and Queen Letizia during the gala dinner on Wednesday. GTRES
The words of both heads of state were carefully chosen to ensure there was no disagreement. The king used the verb “accompany” to describe Spain’s support for the transformation Cuba is undergoing, “in respect” of Cuba’s own decisions. But while Felipe VI spoke about political changes towards a democratic, pluralistic regime that respects basic rights, the Cuban president appeared to focus solely on economic reforms.
Sources from the Spanish government admitted that the king could not visit Cuba without making a call in favor of democracy, and that this plea went as far as what Cuban authorities were willing to allow. Díaz-Canel did not seem upset by the king’s speech. Indeed, he applauded Felipe VI and thanked him for Spain’s “clear and public support” against the “unfair” US sanctions that “cause so much hurt” to the Cuban people. Díaz-Canel also commended the “loyalty and commitment” of Spanish businesses, threatened by US sanctions, and he promised the latter a “relevant participation” in Cuba’s development plans until 2030.
by Greed and Death » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:06 am
Gormwood wrote:Cantelo wrote:The embargo on Cuba is such a pointless and hypocritical relic of the Cold War that continues "just because." If we trade with openly despotic countries such as China, then how can we pretend that we're blockading Cuba due to some nebulous concept of freedom for the Cuban people? They ain't no liberal paradise but they're no North Korea, either.
This blockade just hurts the people who have family on the island. I have a classmate who was nearly in tears because the Department of State recently began restricting all flights to Cuba except for Havana, and his family lives on the opposite end of Havana. It's just gross and callous.
Combination of pandering to the Cuban exile community who had their goodies taken away by Castro ....
by Novus America » Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:21 pm
by Shofercia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:30 pm
Risottia wrote:Loben The 2nd wrote:Cold war
That's over.
More like "I want the Cuban expats to vote for my party" for the US administration.
For the Israeli cabinet, it's likely a "I need to remind America that I'm a faithful lapdog".
For Ukraine and Moldova, it's a "I don't want to piss off neither America nor Europe".
Gormwood wrote:Embargo 2.0 is pretty much the result of Trump's Obama Envy.
NS Miami wrote:Risottia wrote:That's over.
More like "I want the Cuban expats to vote for my party" for the US administration.
For the Israeli cabinet, it's likely a "I need to remind America that I'm a faithful lapdog".
For Ukraine and Moldova, it's a "I don't want to piss off neither America nor Europe".
The cold war is over, but this is not about the cold war.
Cuban Americans know no one in the world cares about western style democracy in Cuba, this is a statement made by many Cuban Americans when we talk about Cuba with each other. The western style democratic nations don't care about western style democracy in Cuba, this is a statement made by many Cuban Americans when we talk about Cuba with each other.
But their are exceptions of persons and political parties in certain nations, but they are very few and rare.
by Greed and Death » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:56 pm
Samudera Darussalam wrote:I don't understand why after the Cold War ended, there should be any embargo at the first place. I think people understand that like Iraq, it's possibly going to affect civilians more than the very government they want to fall, I hope?
I don't support efforts in forcing Western-style democracy on every nation on earth. Nations have their own characteristics and although civil rights and freedom are nice to have, I don't think it's going to work just as nicely in every place.
by Samudera Darussalam » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:49 pm
Greed and Death wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:I don't understand why after the Cold War ended, there should be any embargo at the first place. I think people understand that like Iraq, it's possibly going to affect civilians more than the very government they want to fall, I hope?
I don't support efforts in forcing Western-style democracy on every nation on earth. Nations have their own characteristics and although civil rights and freedom are nice to have, I don't think it's going to work just as nicely in every place.
They stole from Americans they need to return said property as a condition of trade with the US.
by Novus America » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:30 pm
NS Miami wrote:Risottia wrote:That's over.
More like "I want the Cuban expats to vote for my party" for the US administration.
For the Israeli cabinet, it's likely a "I need to remind America that I'm a faithful lapdog".
For Ukraine and Moldova, it's a "I don't want to piss off neither America nor Europe".
The cold war is over, but this is not about the cold war.
Cuban Americans know no one in the world cares about western style democracy in Cuba, this is a statement made by many Cuban Americans when we talk about Cuba with each other. The western style democratic nations don't care about western style democracy in Cuba, this is a statement made by many Cuban Americans when we talk about Cuba with each other.
But their are exceptions of persons and political parties in certain nations, but they are very few and rare.
by Shofercia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:34 pm
Novus America wrote:NS Miami wrote:The cold war is over, but this is not about the cold war.
Cuban Americans know no one in the world cares about western style democracy in Cuba, this is a statement made by many Cuban Americans when we talk about Cuba with each other. The western style democratic nations don't care about western style democracy in Cuba, this is a statement made by many Cuban Americans when we talk about Cuba with each other.
But their are exceptions of persons and political parties in certain nations, but they are very few and rare.
Cold War I is over, but a new Cold War is on.
There absolutely is a Cold War on, though it differs greatly from the first in some ways, although is similar or the same in other ways.
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