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Should the Grey Jedi be a actual order?

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Postby Jolthig » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:43 pm

100 years; maybe 300.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:46 pm

Grey Jedi? What is that about?
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:03 pm

Been a while since I was really into SW, time to get old gears turning :p

I don’t know if Disney has changed this, but from the prequels, the Grey Jedi were largely just part of the greater Jedi order, denoted by their use of purple lightsabers. Mace Windu is a prime example
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Postby Andsed » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:28 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Grey Jedi? What is that about?

From my understanding they are Jedi who tend to use the more darker aspects of the force along with the light side. This is can include Jedi who simply disobey the council like Qui Gon Jinn, to force users like Revan.

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Alright, so basic premise idea:

200 years after, the Galaxy fractures and there are many Warring States, and the Jedi split in ideology as well and there are many factions. The Sith return, and some are rule of two while others are normal, in this chaos, a outside force invades.

Honestly that sound really cool. Having different factions of Jedi and Sith fighting each other sounds like a fun idea that could have some cool ideas introduced(like Jedi being rulers of nations and such.) And would the outside force be the Yuuzhan Vong or a completely different faction?
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Been a while since I was really into SW, time to get old gears turning :p

I don’t know if Disney has changed this, but from the prequels, the Grey Jedi were largely just part of the greater Jedi order, denoted by their use of purple lightsabers. Mace Windu is a prime example

This is Legends.

That applies to legends as well
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Postby Andsed » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:46 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:This is Legends.

That applies to legends as well

I mean if were talking legends Grey Jedi could also apply to Revan like figures. So having some Grey Jedi type factions could be interesting in how they blend the ideals of the Sith and Jedi.

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Andsed wrote:From my understanding they are Jedi who tend to use the more darker aspects of the force along with the light side. This is can include Jedi who simply disobey the council like Qui Gon Jinn, to force users like Revan.


Honestly that sound really cool. Having different factions of Jedi and Sith fighting each other sounds like a fun idea that could have some cool ideas introduced(like Jedi being rulers of nations and such.) And would the outside force be the Yuuzhan Vong or a completely different faction?

Completely different faction, possibly Lovecraftian Inspired to add some Horror to Star Wars.

Sounds cool. Though it may be better to have them invade a little bit after the beginning of the RP. Just so players can get a bit more situated in their roles and can better experience the whole warring states element of the RP. Also about the whole warring states element do you think it would be more like every planet is independent or more like groups of planet under one banner fighting other groups of planets?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:07 pm

Why the heck are we using Darth Krayt as a benchmark. Did the SW community stop using BBY and ABY while I wasn’t looking?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:20 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Why the heck are we using Darth Krayt as a benchmark. Did the SW community stop using BBY and ABY while I wasn’t looking?

We'd use ABY, but we're more deciding how far from the last series is.

I mean we could use Darth Wredd as a benchmark but


Ain't NOBODY remember Darth Wredd.

Which is a shame to be honest, he was a interesting character.

Considering I had to look him up, you’re not wrong...
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Postby Dominant Oppressors » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:25 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Considering I had to look him up, you’re not wrong...

RIP Darth Wredd, you'll always be here in our hearts.

So underrated-sure not the most powerful Sith but you weren't supposed to be.


Anyway, so, first off, let's create the Republic standin. Who should lead it, why did the Triumvirate collapse, etc.

I think a descendant of Mothma should lead
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:08 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Dominant Oppressors wrote:I think a descendant of Mothma should lead

Right but what causes the Warring States Era?

Sith driving Wedges?

A disaster?
Etc.

The resurgence of the separatist movement?
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Postby Andsed » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:40 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:The resurgence of the separatist movement?

For what reasons?

Let's try to not do a rehash.

Perhaps inability of different planets to work together caused the republic to break apart leaving a power vacume and wars to begin(which then causes the Jedi Order to fracture as they decided on if and how they should intervene?)
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Postby Fedel » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:32 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:The resurgence of the separatist movement?

For what reasons?

Let's try to not do a rehash.


Well, if we're following Legends then the government that formed immediately after Krayt's Empire was:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Galact ... riumvirate

A government run by the head of the Jedi Order, the heir to the Fel Empire and the head of the remnants of the Galactic Alliance ( an offshoot of the Galactic Federation after Krayt's destroyed it ).

A viable reason for the public to go against such a system would be that the head of a group of individuals who only number in the thousands ( the Jedi Grandmaster ) shouldn't have the ability to determine policy for quadrillions of sentients.
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Postby Dominant Oppressors » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:18 am

Andsed wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:For what reasons?

Let's try to not do a rehash.

Perhaps inability of different planets to work together caused the republic to break apart leaving a power vacume and wars to begin(which then causes the Jedi Order to fracture as they decided on if and how they should intervene?)

A bit similar to that one corellia plot-line with Centre-point station, no? Maybe the republic stand-in issues some law about trade-taxation that hurts the mid-rim the most and they decide that the gov. Is corrupt and the Jedi also split, meanwhile the Sith attack (I took some elements for yours!)
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Postby Dominant Oppressors » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:25 am

Do we want to create a Star Wars discussion region and all send puppets there? I can start one if you want...
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:44 am

I would really love to join after being told about this, but unfortunately... I have a mix of lack of time, procrastination, and school work to deal with. I also have my own RP to work on, so there is that.

With that said, I wish you guys all the best, and have a great RP ahead of you. ^^
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Postby Dominant Oppressors » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:40 am

Valentine Z wrote:I would really love to join after being told about this, but unfortunately... I have a mix of lack of time, procrastination, and school work to deal with. I also have my own RP to work on, so there is that.

With that said, I wish you guys all the best, and have a great RP ahead of you. ^^

Thank you very much! I know it’s cliché but, may the force be with you!
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:40 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Grey Jedi? What is that about?

They are a order in-between the Jedi and Sith.


So, they're kind of like mercenaries it seems: they serve no one unless it benefits them. Am I correct?
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Postby Dominant Oppressors » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:41 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:They are a order in-between the Jedi and Sith.


So, they're kind of like mercenaries it seems: they serve no one unless it benefits them. Am I correct?

Not exactly, it’s more of a philosophy of balance than a loyalty to credits if you get what I mean
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:53 pm

Dominant Oppressors wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
So, they're kind of like mercenaries it seems: they serve no one unless it benefits them. Am I correct?

Not exactly, it’s more of a philosophy of balance than a loyalty to credits if you get what I mean


Yes, I totally get it. Hmm, it's their view of right or wrong then. Should be interesting.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:52 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Hello all, didn't abandon this last night, just wound down for the night.

Anyway, back to discussion:

Should we have some ancient sith?

Feels somewhat overdone.
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Postby Dominant Oppressors » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:28 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Feels somewhat overdone.

Alright what would you make as major factions?


One idea I have is a militaristic Grey Jedi style Republic.

New dark side order? Maybe something obscure? How about the Shaper of Kro Var (look them up...)? I know they mostly kept to themselves but things can change, they had some interesting powers... I would say the Blackguard but they were all but wiped out...
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:18 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:First off, I do have to ask you guys if you want to have any roles-while I'm devving the lore on my own it'd be nice to delegate some duties.


I'd be up for helping. I've OP'ed some RP threads here in P2tM so I've got some experience. What exactly would you like to delegate or what would you consider less important (something you could delegate to focus on more core aspects).
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:24 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
I'd be up for helping. I've OP'ed some RP threads here in P2tM so I've got some experience. What exactly would you like to delegate or what would you consider less important (something you could delegate to focus on more core aspects).

Mandalorian faction(s), some Jedi ones-go unique I'll make the big Grey Jedi one but there could be a major rival grey jedi faction too-, as well as setting up an app, I'll link you the lightsaber form guides we'll use.

I'm debating in NSG so partially busy right now.


Seems good. I could help in drafting an app form and I could have it for you tomorrow (or sooner if you need it) for you to review.
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:28 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
Seems good. I could help in drafting an app form and I could have it for you tomorrow (or sooner if you need it) for you to review.

Sounds good, Kowani, Zurkerx, Jolt, yall get up, it's past noon! :p


Awesome, I'll get on it. If anything I'll TG you.
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