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How would you defeat the above nation in a war?

Postby Wunderlightia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:34 am

For example.

Nation X: No-one above me. Shame.
Nation Y: Well, Nation X has a lot of ships, so I might play defensively and wait for them to attack me until their ship numbers are depleted, then launch ground invasions of their planets.
Nation Z: Nation Y is extremely powerful compared to my nation. I would try to launch strategic attacks on key industrial areas, research facilities and military bases before performing any invasions.
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Postby Wunderlightia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:35 am

I am fairly certain that there is another topic like this one, but I can't seem to find any like this one.
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Postby Greater Victora » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:39 am

Invasion forces would obviously be accompanied by Psykers in a (likely vain) attempt to ameliorate the affects of Irradon. Other than that, nothing about them requires invasion forces to deviate from the basic Imperial Invasion Plan.

A few Brigades worth of Soldiers should be enough to win at least a pyrrhic victory. A single Legion for an assured victory.

Only deviations I could see would be Imperial forces preference for using flame-based or other heat-based weaponry.
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Postby The Auraverse » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:44 am

Avoid direct contact with their fleets wherever possible. Rush production for Murus vessels, and direct them on express-trajectories to the Sol system. Ignore vessel losses entirely, focus on compensating for them with boosted production. Cripple key installations using saturated bombardment, taking special care to target cloning facilities and shipyards. The Director will probably deal with some of their more problematic combatants personally. Sever the remainder of their empire from its core systems, pacify said systems, then wait for the remainder to collapse.

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Postby The Commoners Republic of America » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:51 am

The Auraverse wrote:Avoid direct contact with their fleets wherever possible. Rush production for Murus vessels, and direct them on express-trajectories to the Sol system. Ignore vessel losses entirely, focus on compensating for them with boosted production. Cripple key installations using saturated bombardment, taking special care to target cloning facilities and shipyards. The Director will probably deal with some of their more problematic combatants personally. Sever the remainder of their empire from its core systems, pacify said systems, then wait for the remainder to collapse.

BN, use the Azure Syndicate.


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Probably use a magnetic pulse to take down most of their tech. Or maybe let loose all our nuclear weapons on them. Other than that they seem too powerful to defeat.
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Postby Impireacht na Eireann » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:56 am

Musket Guerilla Warfare until they get bored and give up, or decide that fighting a war against primitive musketeers and pikemen using tanks is pretty dumb and use airplanes to bomb the shit out of us instead.
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Postby Griffany » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:59 am

Never fight them in the first place, they seem like decent folks.
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Postby Ephratica » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:07 pm

The people of Griffany are profligate oppressors who serve a godless king. Their willingness to use the heretical forces of modern computers would give them an advantage in the earlier stages of the war and in open battle.

Nonetheless, in a struggle with the imperialists, the Ephratican people would fight to the bitter end with every weapon at hand. Thousands of loyal Ephraticans would rally under the banner of Bentonism to fight the apostates.

Open combat would be eschewed in favor of a prolonged insurgency that would aim to bleed the heathens dry. We would make them pay for every inch of Ephratican land that they would occupy. The amount of terror attacks in Griffany would skyrocket. Eventually, after many years of guerilla fighting, the ungodly Griffanese would simply abandon their pointless war against the Bentonist faith. Thus, the Ephratican republic would eventually re-emerge, stronger than ever.

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Postby Wunderlightia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:14 pm

There are many methods we could employ to destroy Ephratica. Anti-matter warheads, a massive laser blast or cause the star the planet orbits to supernova. If we wanted to conquer It, however, we'd send just one of our Robotic IR-58E Soldiers and watch them kills hundreds of Ephraticans at a time.

If they somehow manage to bypass the IR-58E's shielding and destroy it, we'd deploy 200,000 more without weapons and watch them fold those that stand in their way as if they were an ugly jumper your mother-in-law gave you for Christmas.
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Postby The Auraverse » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:13 am

From what little information is available on their military capabilities, we wouldn't really need to deviate much from standard procedures. Overwhelm their fleets by virtue of sheer volume of fire, level whatever surface installations they may possess. If the latter step takes too long, begin decohering planets wholesale. Probably ramp up ship production just to speed up proceedings - the sheer volume of territory they control is kind of idiotic, and it wouldn't do well to waste any more time on this than is necessary. If things get really tedious, just break them apart on a conceptual level through mass Magister deployment.

BN, use the Azure Syndicate.
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Postby Greater Victora » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:41 am

The Auraverse wrote:From what little information is available on their military capabilities, we wouldn't really need to deviate much from standard procedures. Overwhelm their fleets by virtue of sheer volume of fire, level whatever surface installations they may possess. If the latter step takes too long, begin decohering planets wholesale. Probably ramp up ship production just to speed up proceedings - the sheer volume of territory they control is kind of idiotic, and it wouldn't do well to waste any more time on this than is necessary. If things get really tedious, just break them apart on a conceptual level through mass Magister deployment.

BN, use the Azure Syndicate.


The Victoran Empire would unleash it's greatest 'Megaweapons' and 'God-Killers' in order to combat the Syndicate.

Examples of Weapons that'd likely be used;

-Temporal Weapons: Does what it says on the tin

-Harbinger: Planet sized warship with godly firepower

-Astro Imperialis: Limited Reality Warping

-Block Transfer Equations: Limited "Reality Override"

-Medegard Degradations: Eldritch dark-tech abominations
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Postby United Earth Intergalactic Assembly » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:39 pm

Greater Victora wrote:
The Auraverse wrote:From what little information is available on their military capabilities, we wouldn't really need to deviate much from standard procedures. Overwhelm their fleets by virtue of sheer volume of fire, level whatever surface installations they may possess. If the latter step takes too long, begin decohering planets wholesale. Probably ramp up ship production just to speed up proceedings - the sheer volume of territory they control is kind of idiotic, and it wouldn't do well to waste any more time on this than is necessary. If things get really tedious, just break them apart on a conceptual level through mass Magister deployment.

BN, use the Azure Syndicate.


The Victoran Empire would unleash it's greatest 'Megaweapons' and 'God-Killers' in order to combat the Syndicate.

Examples of Weapons that'd likely be used;

-Temporal Weapons: Does what it says on the tin

-Harbinger: Planet sized warship with godly firepower

-Astro Imperialis: Limited Reality Warping

-Block Transfer Equations: Limited "Reality Override"

-Medegard Degradations: Eldritch dark-tech abominations





Instantaneous total annihilation. Their entire galaxy is stuffed so full of metric bombs it's going to look like God himself stomped on it. The galaxy and everything in it is so thoroughly destroyed that nothing is left except maybe deep-interstellar-medium installations. There is no time to react; the bombs destroy all stars in the galaxy in such short order that the whole 'war' lasts a few minutes.

All of this of course assuming they don't have some defense against metric bombs I'm not aware of.
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Postby Flaxxony » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:46 pm

United Earth Intergalactic Assembly wrote:
Greater Victora wrote:
The Victoran Empire would unleash it's greatest 'Megaweapons' and 'God-Killers' in order to combat the Syndicate.

Examples of Weapons that'd likely be used;

-Temporal Weapons: Does what it says on the tin

-Harbinger: Planet sized warship with godly firepower

-Astro Imperialis: Limited Reality Warping

-Block Transfer Equations: Limited "Reality Override"

-Medegard Degradations: Eldritch dark-tech abominations





Instantaneous total annihilation. Their entire galaxy is stuffed so full of metric bombs it's going to look like God himself stomped on it. The galaxy and everything in it is so thoroughly destroyed that nothing is left except maybe deep-interstellar-medium installations. There is no time to react; the bombs destroy all stars in the galaxy in such short order that the whole 'war' lasts a few minutes.

All of this of course assuming they don't have some defense against metric bombs I'm not aware of.


Considering Flaxxony is pre-industrial, I think it would be about impossible.

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Postby Houndonia » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:50 pm

The H.N.V. Angelfish and the P-58 tank would eliminate them easily. The Honeybird or Beacon class could be used.
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Postby The Zravvisk » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:29 pm

Normally we wouldn't even bother and just go on leave away from their borders until it was time to depart for a new system. If we had to defeat them, we'd have our warriors rush the cities and armies as soon as possible while our warriors and Auxiliary Fighter Corps clear the skies. After occupying everything we begin looting then we leave.
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Postby Freed Pacific » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:41 pm

By kicking his arse.

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Postby Scientificum » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:37 pm

We wouldn't even bother. We're half the world away, and without any information regarding their military, we basically have nothing to go on to formulate a serious military strategy. We'll just defend our coasts from the rare chance of an invasion fleet and move on with our lives.
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How would you defeat the above nation in a war?

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Postby Scientificum » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:06 pm

Deacarsia wrote:sWeEfTlEe
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wow a completely vague one-word response that doesnt actually incorporate any actual military strategy, boy am i afraid now

/skip
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How would you defeat the above nation in a war?

Postby Deacarsia » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:41 pm

Scientificum wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:sWeEfTlEe
random latin

wow a completely vague one-word response that doesnt actually incorporate any actual military strategy, boy am i afraid now

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It was a joke, based on the vagueness of the word “how.” It can mean both by “what means,” the meaning intended in this forum, or “in what manner,” which is the source of the joke.

The Latin is a play on the phrase VENI·VIDI·VICI, which Julius Caesar used. It means “I came; I saw; I conquered.” My version means “I would come; I would see; I would conquer.”

It all was just a joke, nothing personal and no harm meant.

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Due to the complete lack of any military information given, the procedure would be the same as with any MT or lower country that doesn't have special features that... *cough* make our weapons stop working *cough*.

That would be about 1 regiment (100,000 soldiers) with power armor, some tanks and AFVs sent to storm their main cities, then to crush any pockets of resistance that remain. In case the enemy is more powerful than expected, 5 regiments (500,000 soldiers) would be sent to reinforce the main invasion force.
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Postby Synne Industries » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:03 am

With excessive force and ungodly precision.

Since Greater Cosmicium isn't shown to have any baseline reality defensive measures Researcher Looker would use the Dutchman and the matter/information of Greater Cosmician military assets to "planet-jump" silently towards important targets, eventually destroying them with the barstool for good measure.

Technological advancement could probably prevent mass-chaos but the command structure would be weakened greatly by this first strike of sorts. Afterwards an Eclipse-Dutchman sweep would attempt to slowly pick away at mass-produced ships and equipment. Standard forces would stay the hell away for the duration of this, Greater Cosmicium is out of their league for now.
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Postby The Auraverse » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:40 am

From the perspective of the Syndicate:

With extreme prejudice. Honestly, the bulk of warfare would probably take place on a metacausal level - the processes governing the Dutchman would be targeted directly by Magister-derivative assets and various esoteric forms of conceptual attack. The Director would probably do some really funky stuff with deep foldspace too - maybe start a bar fight or two.

Back in meatspace, we'd more or less continuously throw spaceships at their spaceships. With reasonable confidence that ours are ever so slightly spiffier, and that unlike them we won't hemorrhage resources as part of an extensive conflict.

BN, use the Azure Syndicate.

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A creative writing experiment. INCREDIBLY WIP, and will probably remain so for the forseeable future.
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Postby Greater Cosmicium » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:41 am

In the first seconds of the war, battlemages and more powerful Cosmician superweapons adjusted to destroy vehicles and equipment but not soldiers would tactically destroy most of the Syndicate's military assets, hopefully before their own superweapons have had a chance to counter our weapons. The Dreth Arakar and other trans-dimensional/trans-temporal weapons may also take part in the initial moments, as well as any combat that may occur outside of the main dimension and in hyperspace.

Once most of the Syndicate's military assets have been destroyed, a long (probably many decades long) and grueling campaign of taking most of the planets would occur, as Cosmician ships are still limited by the speed of their FTL drives and manpower reserves.

Or if that totally elaborate plan doesn't work, we could always use the ancient and time-tested protocol "Wanna have a drink?".
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