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Embassy of The Leftist Assembly | Cabinet Update

Postby Leftist Assembly Founder » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:27 am

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The Cabinet

Secretary: Llorens
Minister of Events: Libertasnia
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Greylyn
Minister of Information: Nottinhaps
Minister of Recruitment: The Final Horseman
Minister of Roleplay: Fevhader
Minister of World Assembly Affairs: Podria



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Postby Llorens » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:32 pm

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An update on Cabinet activities

Here is the first update to the wider community on the activities of the 1st Llorens Cabinet:

Secretary - Llorens
I personally undertook the responsibility, as Secretary, for the Revolutionary Support Exchange (RoSE) program to encourage WA membership and endorsing, which we have already started to see results from. At the most recent update, we had climbed to our highest average endorsement count in the region in almost 3 years, ranking 25th out of all regions at 5.05. Apart from that, I've been really hard at work in progressing all of the activities in our six Ministries. Our team is fantastic!

Ministry of Events - Argentigrad/Libertasnia
With the resignation of Argentigrad and subsequent confirmation of Libertasnia as the new Minister of Events, progress has been slow in events. However, Assembly Day is fast approaching on 14 January, and we are looking at ways to celebrate our fourth anniversary as a region.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Greylyn
We hosted a foreign affairs survey, which showed a high level of dissatisfaction with the current state of our two regional alliances, NSLeft and the Interregional Legislative Coalition, making their improvement a key concern for the Cabinet. A subsequent vote on whether to retain our membership or leave the ILC found almost unanimous support for remaining a member. New ambassadors have been appointed to Gay (Wascoitan), Forest (Lyconix), and Thalassia (Sincadenas). A partial realignment of embassies saw relations closed with the Libertarian Socialist Confederation and Marxist Scholar's Circle, while we opened a new embassy with The Red Fleet, whose R/D activities the Cabinet formally endorsed.

Ministry of Information - Nottinhaps
The endorsement cap was lowered from 120 to 100, which was the first monthly recalculation since the transition of the Delegacy from Argentigrad to Llorens, and there have also been some updates to the World Factbook Entry. Nottinhaps also assisted in building automated code for the RoSE program in order to assist with the provision of monthly awards, and soon for a daily statistics tracker.

Ministry of Recruitment - The Final Horseman
Recruitment statistics for December 2019 showed an increase of 40 nations and 13 WA nations, with over 31,000 recruitment telegrams sent out having a 1.49% conversion rate. Changes have also been made to the region's FAQ, including adding a new section for general NS Gameplay information to assist new players. As the term progresses, the FAQ will continue to grow as a tool for new members to our region to get their footing and become productive citizens.

Ministry of Roleplay - Fevhader
Fevhader has been very successful in creating a fun, easy to join, and welcoming roleplay during the start of this term, being assisted by the expertise of comrades from our allied region, the Democratic Socialist Assembly. This has included a public vote on which map to use to prioritise community participation, in which Student Loan Debt's submission won, paired with a range of new channels in our Discord server to facilitate both IC and OOC activities; we have since had 22 nations lay a claim on the map. The Ministry has also organised a roleplay dispatch to guide new nations on how to join and ground rules for participation. We are currently working on creating more maps and making it easier to join.

Ministry of World Assembly Affairs - Podria
The Ministry is currently undergoing a test period, establishing a standard procedure for which to consult citizens on World Assembly resolutions and how to decide the Delegate's stance on each proposal. We are currently hosting a one-day poll on both of the current resolutions in the General Assembly and Security Council, which will bind my vote as Delegate to the will of the populace. This is paired with RMB statements from the Ministry on each resolution linking to the forum discussion, explaining the proposal, and giving an initial recommendation if deemed necessary. Currently, the Ministry recommended voting FOR Wartime Healthcare Protections but did not provide a stance either for or against Commend Ramaeus.


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Postby Greylyn » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:44 pm

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The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is proud to present this second Cabinet Update for January 18, 2020. Whether readers are members of The Leftist Assembly's embassy regions or simply a curious passerby, we hope this update will provide useful insight into the goings-on in the Cabinet.


Ministry of Events
Assembly Day 2020 was a tremendous success with TLA's very first poetry contest, which built on comrade Argentigrad's idea for a poetry competition. The winners of the competition can be found here. The Ministry of Events is currently considering the prospect of hosting a game night with The Internationale soon.


Ministry of Foreign Affairs
We've gained two new ambassadors in Papalonia and Sincadenas to Refugia and Thalassia respectively, the first of which is a new embassy. Based on their promising RMB activity, we hope for this to be a fruitful relationship for both of our regions.


Ministry of Information
The Ministry of Information put together a statistics page for the RoSE program, fixing files in accordance with NationStates API updates. The Minsitry of Information will also be hosting a public census audit in early February, with the census then being hosted later in the month.


Ministry of Recruitment
The Leftist Assembly's Minister of Recruitment The Final Horseman has overseen a period of growth since the end of December, with seven new nations in total, five of which are members of the World Assembly. Since August 28, 35,721 recruitment telegrams have been delivered, 5,264 (~15%) have been read by recipients, and 551 have been successfully recruited, a record high 1.54% conversion rate. For reference, recruitment telegrams are typically less than 1% effective!


Ministry of Role Play
More than thirty nations have joined the regional roleplay, prompting the formation of a small group of members who have been assisting the Ministry of Roleplay's organizational efforts. Most notably, an Olympic Games is to be held soon and members of our regional community are encouraged to join if they are interested in participating.


Ministry of World Assembly Affairs
The MoWAA has begun conducting game-side polls to gauge public opinion on World Assembly resolutions, totaling three region-wide WA-related votes. The Ministry is considering how the nature of its activities may change with the recently proposed amendments to the NSLeft Solidarity Pact, which will be creating, among others, a Gameplay Committee to better coordinate TLA and its allies in matters relevant to the World Assembly.
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:42 pm

It seems as if your government has been very busy.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... gagium.PNG

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Please stop spreading screenshots of whoever the hell this is trying to impersonate me. I don't know what you all want with me, I don't care quite frankly, it's embarrassing that I even have to type this up because your own Kavagrad is spreading screenshots of someone claiming to be me making disgusting racist comments. I want to know who the tag of your fake little "Gagium" is, why you're doing this, and who your other accomplices in these screenshots are who are apparently aiding in this attempt to impersonate me. I mean, really, why are you doing this? I'm disgusted and repulsed by this. Please stop.

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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:48 pm

I'd be very interested to see what evidence you have that it isn't you.
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:50 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I'd be very interested to see what evidence you have that it isn't you.

I wasn’t even aware of this until tonight...I don’t know how to prove that I don’t even know the people in the DMs, but knowing the tag of this fake-Gagium would help..Mine is Gagium#9629. I suppose you don’t know the people in these screenies?
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:52 pm

Gagium wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I'd be very interested to see what evidence you have that it isn't you.

I wasn’t even aware of this until tonight...I don’t know how to prove that I don’t even know the people in the DMs, but knowing the tag of this fake-Gagium would help..Mine is Gagium#9629. I suppose you don’t know the people in these screenies?

I first came across them when someone entered NSGP using an anon account and started posting them and promising more. It was all very odd that they waited all this time to drop them and I theorised it may have been someone from FCN who may have had a falling out with you who had collected these just in case they ever needed to uh... spill the tea, I guess.
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:57 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Gagium wrote:I wasn’t even aware of this until tonight...I don’t know how to prove that I don’t even know the people in the DMs, but knowing the tag of this fake-Gagium would help..Mine is Gagium#9629. I suppose you don’t know the people in these screenies?

I first came across them when someone entered NSGP using an anon account and started posting them and promising more. It was all very odd that they waited all this time to drop them and I theorised it may have been someone from FCN who may have had a falling out with you who had collected these just in case they ever needed to uh... spill the tea, I guess.

Collected? It looks like someone made a bunch of racist comments, changed their profile picture to mine and their name to “Gagium”, and then thought “hurhurhur let’s make Gagium a racist..Even if he isn’t, our version of Gagium can be a racist!”

I’ve been banned from the NSGP discord since the first FCN liberation attempt, and it’s no secret that none of you like me (Even though I don’t know any of you and quite frankly don’t care about any of you...). I wouldn’t be surprised if it was one of your own...Regardless, if NSGP is comfortable with spreading screenshots of some impersonator making racist comments and spreading lies and fallacies against players they don’t like then they should probably refrain from calling others toxic or blacklisting others :/
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Postby Kavagrad » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:03 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Gagium wrote:I wasn’t even aware of this until tonight...I don’t know how to prove that I don’t even know the people in the DMs, but knowing the tag of this fake-Gagium would help..Mine is Gagium#9629. I suppose you don’t know the people in these screenies?

I first came across them when someone entered NSGP using an anon account and started posting them and promising more. It was all very odd that they waited all this time to drop them and I theorised it may have been someone from FCN who may have had a falling out with you who had collected these just in case they ever needed to uh... spill the tea, I guess.

Indeed. As I stated both in the NSGP Discord and on the FCN RMB, I became aware of these logs a couple of days after they ended up on the NSGP server. I don't know who was responsible for them. My crime was sending 2 telegrams containing those logs, hardly something worth kicking up this sort of fuss about. Frankly, if he hadn't thrown this sort of fit, it wouldn't be nearly as public as he's now making it.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:03 pm

Gagium wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I first came across them when someone entered NSGP using an anon account and started posting them and promising more. It was all very odd that they waited all this time to drop them and I theorised it may have been someone from FCN who may have had a falling out with you who had collected these just in case they ever needed to uh... spill the tea, I guess.

Collected? It looks like someone made a bunch of racist comments, changed their profile picture to mine and their name to “Gagium”, and then thought “hurhurhur let’s make Gagium a racist..Even if he isn’t, our version of Gagium can be a racist!”
Those comments were made across a fairly large period of time - months and weeks - allegedly in the now wiped FCN server - and collected, yes collected, by someone who claims to have leaked them precisely because of that wipe. There is 'nothing left to archive'.

I’ve been banned from the NSGP discord since the first FCN liberation attempt, and it’s no secret that none of you like me (Even though I don’t know any of you and quite frankly don’t care about any of you...).
Before these screenshots were posted I didn't even know you existed. I still don't have any particularly strong feelings about you.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was one of your own...Regardless, if NSGP is comfortable with spreading screenshots of some impersonator making racist comments and spreading lies and fallacies against players they don’t like then they should probably refrain from calling others toxic or blacklisting others :/

I think claiming NSGP is spreading these screenshots requires a number of things to be true - approval of NSGPs mods, NSGP being a single entity of some kind, and knowledge of NSGPs reaction to these screenshots, which was a reaction of scepticism at the motives of who was spreading them.

You've made a number of assumptions about NSGP that very much aren't true.
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:07 pm

Kavagrad wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I first came across them when someone entered NSGP using an anon account and started posting them and promising more. It was all very odd that they waited all this time to drop them and I theorised it may have been someone from FCN who may have had a falling out with you who had collected these just in case they ever needed to uh... spill the tea, I guess.

Indeed. As I stated both in the NSGP Discord and on the FCN RMB, I became aware of these logs a couple of days after they ended up on the NSGP server. I don't know who was responsible for them. My crime was sending 2 telegrams containing those logs, hardly something worth kicking up this sort of fuss about. Frankly, if he hadn't thrown this sort of fit, it wouldn't be nearly as public as he's now making it.

I believe you’d have the same reaction if someone impersonated you, said a whole bunch of racist things, and then tried to get you blacklisted or banned across the General NS community that you’ve spent years in for those screenshots...

You should be held accountable for your attempts at spreading screenshots of someone who isn’t me to claim that I’m anti-Semitic and a racist. Your crime isn’t “sending 2 telegrams containing lots”, the issue is that you’re going after those who have ties with my region and saying that I’m a racist and anti-Semitic with screenshots from someone impersonating me from the NSGP community.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:10 pm

Gagium wrote:someone impersonating me from the NSGP community.

This claim requires evidence. The burner account that posted the screenshots to NSGP subsequently left the server, but went by the name Whistleblower Jim#3262. I doubt they'll reply to you if you contacted them, but maybe they would.
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:11 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Gagium wrote:someone impersonating me from the NSGP community.

This claim requires evidence. The burner account that posted the screenshots to NSGP subsequently left the server, but went by the name Whistleblower Jim#3262. I doubt they'll reply to you if you contacted them, but maybe they would.

Does being in the NSGP discord and welcomed not make you a part of the NSGP community?

If your NSGP community openly accepts “whistleblowers” spreading screenshots of impersonators saying racist things to try and frame other people and tarnish their reputation, that speaks volumes about your community regardless.
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Postby Kavagrad » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:17 pm

Gagium wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Indeed. As I stated both in the NSGP Discord and on the FCN RMB, I became aware of these logs a couple of days after they ended up on the NSGP server. I don't know who was responsible for them. My crime was sending 2 telegrams containing those logs, hardly something worth kicking up this sort of fuss about. Frankly, if he hadn't thrown this sort of fit, it wouldn't be nearly as public as he's now making it.

I believe you’d have the same reaction if someone impersonated you, said a whole bunch of racist things, and then tried to get you blacklisted or banned across the General NS community that you’ve spent years in for those screenshots...

You should be held accountable for your attempts at spreading screenshots of someone who isn’t me to claim that I’m anti-Semitic and a racist. Your crime isn’t “sending 2 telegrams containing lots”, the issue is that you’re going after those who have ties with my region and saying that I’m a racist and anti-Semitic with screenshots from someone impersonating me from the NSGP community.

Your claim is that someone bothered to falsify logs with a fake account over a period of 6 months, just to go after you personally? That's the defence? I certainly don't buy it, that's why I sent the logs to anyone in the first place. I was perfectly open with UM about how I came into possession of the logs, and have allowed him to come to his own conclusions regarding their validity. I have no intention of passing them onto anyone else beyond the recipients of the 2 TGs I've already sent, and I will stick to that. Your decision to make this so public is really working against your interests. If the logs are real, you've just made sure that anyone can know about them. If they're false, then this is really only dragging your own name through the mud.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:22 pm

Gagium wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:This claim requires evidence. The burner account that posted the screenshots to NSGP subsequently left the server, but went by the name Whistleblower Jim#3262. I doubt they'll reply to you if you contacted them, but maybe they would.

Does being in the NSGP discord and welcomed not make you a part of the NSGP community?
Define welcomed. They were laughed at and we speculated about their motives and identity.

If your NSGP community openly accepts “whistleblowers” spreading screenshots of impersonators saying racist things to try and frame other people and tarnish their reputation, that speaks volumes about your community regardless.

You've yet to provide evidence it is not indeed you in those screenshots. Perhaps you could let us onto the FCN discord to verify these things for ourselves?
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:25 pm

Kavagrad wrote:
Gagium wrote:I believe you’d have the same reaction if someone impersonated you, said a whole bunch of racist things, and then tried to get you blacklisted or banned across the General NS community that you’ve spent years in for those screenshots...

You should be held accountable for your attempts at spreading screenshots of someone who isn’t me to claim that I’m anti-Semitic and a racist. Your crime isn’t “sending 2 telegrams containing lots”, the issue is that you’re going after those who have ties with my region and saying that I’m a racist and anti-Semitic with screenshots from someone impersonating me from the NSGP community.

Your claim is that someone bothered to falsify logs with a fake account over a period of 6 months, just to go after you personally? That's the defence? I certainly don't buy it, that's why I sent the logs to anyone in the first place. I was perfectly open with UM about how I came into possession of the logs, and have allowed him to come to his own conclusions regarding their validity. I have no intention of passing them onto anyone else beyond the recipients of the 2 TGs I've already sent, and I will stick to that. Your decision to make this so public is really working against your interests. If the logs are real, you've just made sure that anyone can know about them. If they're false, then this is really only dragging your own name through the mud.


“Your claim is that someone bothered to falsify logs with a fake account over a period of 6 months, just to go after you personally?”
I’ve been impersonated, doxxed, and DDoSed over this damned site - I wouldn’t put it out of the question..But no. All someone has to do is make those comments, then skip January change their profile picture to mine and their name, and then screenshot those comments (With the now changed PFP and username)...I could point out personal things in those comments that clearly aren’t me (I don’t “live with a woman”, like one of the screenshots claims), but god knows what NSGP would do with any information regarding IRL me :/

I don’t care what you believe is right or wrong - The fact that you’re perfectly fine with spreading screenshots of someone who isn’t me to tell others that I’m a racist and an anti-Semite says enough about your moral code..What NSGP is doing with these screenshots to tarnish my name and working with a shady “whistleblower” needs to be made known. You’d love to see “Gagium” associated with racism and anti-semitism regardless.

Out of curiosity though, why do you use the term ‘logs’ for the screens?
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:26 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Gagium wrote:Does being in the NSGP discord and welcomed not make you a part of the NSGP community?
Define welcomed. They were laughed at and we speculated about their motives and identity.

If your NSGP community openly accepts “whistleblowers” spreading screenshots of impersonators saying racist things to try and frame other people and tarnish their reputation, that speaks volumes about your community regardless.

You've yet to provide evidence it is not indeed you in those screenshots. Perhaps you could let us onto the FCN discord to verify these things for ourselves?

1. Apparently not. Here I am weeks after this hearing about it because of a fellow in NSGP sharing these screens with FCN allies to say that I’m a racist and anti-Semite. The NSGP fellows who reacted to your “whistleblower” (What does this guy think he is, some sort of hero?) seemed to take the guy seriously.

2. You’re free to join the FCN discord and apply for a role if you want to join it. The discord link is always and has always been on our WFE
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:33 pm

Gagium wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Define welcomed. They were laughed at and we speculated about their motives and identity.


You've yet to provide evidence it is not indeed you in those screenshots. Perhaps you could let us onto the FCN discord to verify these things for ourselves?

1. Apparently not. Here I am weeks after this hearing about it because of a fellow in NSGP sharing these screens with FCN allies to say that I’m a racist and anti-Semite. The NSGP fellows who reacted to your “whistleblower” (What does this guy think he is, some sort of hero?) seemed to take the guy seriously.

2. You’re free to join the FCN discord and apply for a role if you want to join it. The discord link is always and has always been on our WFE

1. It's been about 14 days total since these first popped up - there's more, with other people in, if you'd like to see them too.

2. Wasn't the FCN discord wiped or something?
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Postby Gagium » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:34 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Gagium wrote:1. Apparently not. Here I am weeks after this hearing about it because of a fellow in NSGP sharing these screens with FCN allies to say that I’m a racist and anti-Semite. The NSGP fellows who reacted to your “whistleblower” (What does this guy think he is, some sort of hero?) seemed to take the guy seriously.

2. You’re free to join the FCN discord and apply for a role if you want to join it. The discord link is always and has always been on our WFE

1. It's been about 14 days total since these first popped up - there's more, with other people in, if you'd like to see them too.

2. Wasn't the FCN discord wiped or something?

Raided back in December with a hijacked bot, we’ve had a new server up for awhile now..
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Postby Kavagrad » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:39 pm

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Kavagrad wrote:Your claim is that someone bothered to falsify logs with a fake account over a period of 6 months, just to go after you personally? That's the defence? I certainly don't buy it, that's why I sent the logs to anyone in the first place. I was perfectly open with UM about how I came into possession of the logs, and have allowed him to come to his own conclusions regarding their validity. I have no intention of passing them onto anyone else beyond the recipients of the 2 TGs I've already sent, and I will stick to that. Your decision to make this so public is really working against your interests. If the logs are real, you've just made sure that anyone can know about them. If they're false, then this is really only dragging your own name through the mud.


“Your claim is that someone bothered to falsify logs with a fake account over a period of 6 months, just to go after you personally?”
I’ve been impersonated, doxxed, and DDoSed over this damned site - I wouldn’t put it out of the question..But no. All someone has to do is make those comments, then skip January change their profile picture to mine and their name, and then screenshot those comments (With the now changed PFP and username)...I could point out personal things in those comments that clearly aren’t me (I don’t “live with a woman”, like one of the screenshots claims), but god knows what NSGP would do with any information regarding IRL me :/

I don’t care what you believe is right or wrong - The fact that you’re perfectly fine with spreading screenshots of someone who isn’t me to tell others that I’m a racist and an anti-Semite says enough about your moral code..What NSGP is doing with these screenshots to tarnish my name and working with a shady “whistleblower” needs to be made known. You’d love to see “Gagium” associated with racism and anti-semitism regardless.

Out of curiosity though, why do you use the term ‘logs’ for the screens?

As much as you probably won't believe me, I'd much rather not associate anyone on this site with racism and anti-semitism. I take no pleasure from any of this. However, my previous conversations with UM made it clear that he didn't want to be associated with someone that said the things said in those screenshots. I handed them to him, open about my source, and am letting him arrive at his own conclusions. I'm giving a full berth of information to someone who previously expressed an interest in receiving any future evidence in this area. If they're not real, then UM will surely arrive at that conclusion, and you'll have nothing to worry about. I'd like to believe that this is the case, I'd much rather believe that you're not the person in these screenshots. The fewer people like that on this site, the better.

And are screenshots not a form of log? I'll concede that rather pedantic point, I'm not the best with this sort of terminology.
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Postby New Waldensia » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:06 pm

1. As someone who has been in the same region and Discord server(s) with Gagium for going on three years, the imposter's writing style and content is not remotely the same.
2. I don't recognize the names or profile pics of the other individuals pictured, and as a longtime officer and admin of our Discord I would.
3. We have a veritable rainbow of colored roles on our server and have always had them -- none of the usernames show that, so any of these conversations were absolutely not on an FCN server.
4. How the imposter refers to his IRL setting in no way reflects how Gagium has portrayed it since early 2017, so for them to both be the same individual would require the depicted account being one heck of a professionally committed and consistent actor, realistically depicting the life, mannerisms, and time constraints of a pre-senior high teenage boy, only to flub it up with how he refers to himself in these screenshots? Flatly absurd.

You've had a scam run by you.
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Postby Xoriet » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:51 am

Gagium wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:This claim requires evidence. The burner account that posted the screenshots to NSGP subsequently left the server, but went by the name Whistleblower Jim#3262. I doubt they'll reply to you if you contacted them, but maybe they would.

Does being in the NSGP discord and welcomed not make you a part of the NSGP community?

If your NSGP community openly accepts “whistleblowers” spreading screenshots of impersonators saying racist things to try and frame other people and tarnish their reputation, that speaks volumes about your community regardless.

The "whistleblower" was suspicious on his own for other reasons and left the server after he started getting pointed questions about his identity. If you can prove it isn't you, go ahead. Nobody had particularly strong reactions other than momentary disgust. There is also no way for anyone who is not part of your circle to tell if it is an impersonator or actually you through screenshots. Screenshots don't show your user handle.

If you're going to accuse us of supporting what you consider baseless allegations, you should rethink your strategy of trying to convince us it's not you saying any of that. It doesn't make you many friends/sympathists to accuse us of bothering to go around spreading these.
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Postby Kavagrad » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:17 am

I think that some calming down needs to be done. Let's approach this sensibly.

New Waldensia wrote:1. As someone who has been in the same region and Discord server(s) with Gagium for going on three years, the imposter's writing style and content is not remotely the same.
2. I don't recognize the names or profile pics of the other individuals pictured, and as a longtime officer and admin of our Discord I would.
3. We have a veritable rainbow of colored roles on our server and have always had them -- none of the usernames show that, so any of these conversations were absolutely not on an FCN server.
4. How the imposter refers to his IRL setting in no way reflects how Gagium has portrayed it since early 2017, so for them to both be the same individual would require the depicted account being one heck of a professionally committed and consistent actor, realistically depicting the life, mannerisms, and time constraints of a pre-senior high teenage boy, only to flub it up with how he refers to himself in these screenshots? Flatly absurd.

You've had a scam run by you.


Perhaps. I'm happy to state that I had no way of fully verifying that these were real upon first viewing them. However, given the severity of the content, I couldn't just pretend that I hadn't seen them. Therefore, the most sensible option, in my view, was to pass them along to someone that fit the following criteria:

a) Would take them seriously, ideally having previously stated that they would if this sort of thing came up.
b) Has better insight into FCN than I do, and therefore has a better chance of figuring out whether or not the screenshots were legitimate.

UM fit both of these criteria. Thus, he received the information, I was open about the source, all with the intent of making sure that these screenshots were real before they became publicly available. I had no intention of releasing them gameside without being 100% certain as to their accuracy. The telegram was worded in such a way as to make sure UM took them seriously, though one could argue that this was a mistake, and I'd accept that criticism.

However, let's think rationally: If my intent were simply to humiliate Gagium or FCN as a whole, I could've simply stuck them in a mass TG to FCN's population and the leadership of their allies on an account that nobody knows is mine, without any care as to the truth of the matter. I have more than enough telegram stamps to do such a thing.

If the person that put these on the NSGP discord did fake them, and was attempting to make these public to humiliate Gagium, the fact is that they were on a road to failure right up until Gagium lost his head and started putting the links everywhere and attacking me for trying to find the facts of the matter. Neither myself nor UM wanted this to be public unless they were proven to be real. If UM had found conclusive proof that they're false, and Gagium hadn't flipped his lid, these screenshots would never have ended up on the forums.

Instead, they've ended up in multiple GP threads and on FCN's RMB. I can't reasonably be expected take responsibility for that.

It's certainly not the responsibility of TLA. None of this is relevant to the region that I reside in. So, to avoid threadjacking further, let's end this disruption to our embassy thread. My TGs are open if anyone wishes to discuss this further.
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