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UK Politics Thread XI: The Wheels on the Bus go DUP DUP DUP

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Who will you / would you vote for in the December general election

Conservative and Unionist Party
24
17%
Labour Party
57
41%
Liberal Democrats
22
16%
Green Party [England and Wales]
3
2%
Brexit Party
18
13%
Scottish National Party
6
4%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Northern Ireland DUP/UUP
0
No votes
Northern Ireland SF/SDLP
1
1%
Other
7
5%
 
Total votes : 138

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UK Politics Thread XI: The Wheels on the Bus go DUP DUP DUP

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:38 am

Latest iteration of the ongoing UK politics thread series, last one was here:

Welcome once more to the latest hot take thread on the glorious calamity that is British Politics, the finest politics on the continent, far better than the French for sure, and those pesky swamp germans (beware of sheep). Here we shall discuss all the current events that dominate the political sphere in the nation of Britannia, in particular BREXIT, the British attempt to leave the European Union which has been going on now for some time.

First Poll will be on the new brexit deal Boris Johnson has secured with the EU, and whether or not you agree with said deal.

I might flesh this OP out more later.

I made this because the other one got to 500 pages, if you were in the process of making a thread sue me.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:46 am

Well, I'm not a fan of it, and now the Commons likely won't get to vote on it anyway, so...
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:49 am

Loving the support for Burning Everything right now. GVH would be proud. :p

I'm just bored by the proceedings at this point and want a resolution. Not that there will be one.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:51 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:Loving the support for Burning Everything right now. GVH would be proud. :p

I'm just bored by the proceedings at this point and want a resolution. Not that there will be one.


Well it is nearly bonfire night...

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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:00 am

my word, what a beautiful title

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:01 am

You missed a trick Huskar. The thread should be called UK Politics Thread XI: The Eleventh Hour of Brexit.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:01 am

That fucking title. Good man.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:02 am

The New California Republic wrote:You missed a trick Huskar. The thread should be called UK Politics Thread XI: The Eleventh Hour of Brexit.

Argh damn it

Dumb Ideologies wrote:That fucking title. Good man.
Souseiseki wrote:my word, what a beautiful title

new thread just in time for the happenings
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:09 am

Mmm, new thread smell. Smells like....despair.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:20 am

I like that Johnson's deal has changed the NI backstop from being a possibility to a compulsory part of withdrawal.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:31 am

Ifreann wrote:Hello Brexit my old friend
I've come to post bout you again

Because a Bojo softly creeping
Left its buses while I was sleeping
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:34 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Hello Brexit my old friend
I've come to post bout you again

Because a Bojo softly creeping
Left its buses while I was sleeping


And the vision that was planted in my brain
Fuck remain

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Postby Chan Island » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 am

Ah, the British politics thread. Another 500 pages of misery, screaming and hopelessness await.

So, what does everyone think about Brexit? :p

EDIT: All to the sound, of Boris.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:00 am

Shrillland wrote:Well, I'm not a fan of it, and now the Commons likely won't get to vote on it anyway, so...

Wait what?
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:06 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Well, I'm not a fan of it, and now the Commons likely won't get to vote on it anyway, so...

Wait what?


Well, it would be severly muzzled should the Letwin Amendment pass: https://news.sky.com/story/letwin-amendment-could-mean-the-honeymoon-is-over-for-pm-11838756
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:13 am

Shrillland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Wait what?


Well, it would be severly muzzled should the Letwin Amendment pass: https://news.sky.com/story/letwin-amendment-could-mean-the-honeymoon-is-over-for-pm-11838756

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Postby Cupofchar » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:30 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Well, it would be severly muzzled should the Letwin Amendment pass: https://news.sky.com/story/letwin-amendment-could-mean-the-honeymoon-is-over-for-pm-11838756

Well then


that's playing into the remainders hands- bad move.

This is the tricksy bit of getting a deal- underhand contrivances afoot, perchance? From both plug pulling sides of the argument.

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Postby Hirota » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:40 am

Court case that Vass and Fartsniffage were talking about at the end of the last thread went nowhere.

And the beeb started its own maths https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50096546
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Postby Hydesland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:47 am

Part of me just wants this deal to go through as I'm so bored of this shite now.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:49 am

Cupofchar wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well then


that's playing into the remainders hands- bad move.

This is the tricksy bit of getting a deal- underhand contrivances afoot, perchance? From both plug pulling sides of the argument.


Making sure we have time to implement the agreed to deal properly is playing into the remainers hands? How?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:20 pm

ITV Journo: "So, race to the bottom is often a thing talked about with global trade, Labour is talking about workers rights and you need those votes to go through, do you understand those concerns?"

Boris: "yeah. yeah. Well the deal contains a passage that explicitly talks about how both we and europe both agree that we have ambitions on workers rights and environmental protection."

ITV Journo doesn't follow up with any questions and just moves on.

"I PROMISE I WILL TRY TO TRY!" is the best way to interpret that non answer, and the worst way is "Well we do have ambitions. I.E, scrapping them.".
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:22 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:ITV Journo: "So, race to the bottom is often a thing talked about with global trade, Labour is talking about workers rights and you need those votes to go through, do you understand those concerns?"

Boris: "yeah. yeah. Well the deal contains a passage that explicitly talks about how both we and europe both agree that we have ambitions on workers rights and environmental protection."

ITV Journo doesn't follow up with any questions and just moves on.

"I PROMISE I WILL TRY TO TRY!" is the best way to interpret that non answer, and the worst way is "Well we do have ambitions. I.E, scrapping them.".


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:25 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:ITV Journo: "So, race to the bottom is often a thing talked about with global trade, Labour is talking about workers rights and you need those votes to go through, do you understand those concerns?"

Boris: "yeah. yeah. Well the deal contains a passage that explicitly talks about how both we and europe both agree that we have ambitions on workers rights and environmental protection."

ITV Journo doesn't follow up with any questions and just moves on.

"I PROMISE I WILL TRY TO TRY!" is the best way to interpret that non answer, and the worst way is "Well we do have ambitions. I.E, scrapping them.".


Journo, you've lost the news!



Also, poor Europe. Do you think they fell for that shit in good faith?

"Well I mean these Trade standards, without us knowing about comparative wages and workplace safety and so on... I mean-"

"Look, we're both going to disagree on the fiddly bits and that's part of the reason for brexit, regulatory autonomy, but we super duper promise that we're on board with the general concept of worker rights, safety, wellbeing, and the environment and cross our hearts won't deliberately undercut your standards in order to take advantage of the generous tariffs you're offering which you wouldn't offer to countries that didn't have environmental protections and good wages and so on. Pinky swear."

"WELL OKAY I GUESS A GENTLEMANS AGREEMENT IS FINE. You're right, provided the regulations are of comparable quality they need not be exactly the same.".

I hope not.

I really really hope not.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:28 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:WELL OKAY I GUESS A GENTLEMANS AGREEMENT IS FINE.

Remember Vince Cable's gentlemen's agreement?

Also gentlemen's agreement sounds like a sex act.
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