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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVIII: Hyena Central Command 憶ラ

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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
56
42%
2. Life in prison but in gen pop
31
23%
3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
21
16%
4. Life in prison but in protective custody
24
18%
 
Total votes : 132

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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVIII: Hyena Central Command 憶ラ

Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:52 pm


Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVIII: Hyena Central Command 憶ラ 横ふ猿媛ヒ
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[b]*Puff of smoke and a wild Nap appears* Aight, check it. This here is the 18th Right-Wing muthafuckin' Discussion Thread and we are going to make this one an absolute banger. On this megathread right-wingers of all stripes and guest may debate and banter freely. From your purple hearted aristocrats, light blue progressive conservatives, black shirted OG fascist in hiding, and titans of industry libertarians; all are welcome here, including our foes and friends from across the political landscape, if they think they can ball hard enough. Topics for discussion can range from history, right-wing philosophy, and economics other topics may be touched upon so long as it does not derail the thread. Remember at the end of the day we are here to keep it real and relatively fun-loving; it's what makes us so unique and popular on this forum.

Remember to keep to topics related to right-wing politics- whilst the conversation may naturally meander around such areas as religion, philosophy and, of course, left-wing ideology, please, please try to limit discussion of these topics to their relevance to the political right. We leave it up to posters to decide for themselves what constitutes "right-wing" in political jargon. Respect your fellow posters, abide by the site rules and be prepared to have your views challenged, mocked, torn apart, shit on and flushed down the toilet.

Now party to the new thread.

Relevant subjects for discussion include:

  • The politics, philosophies, and ideologies of the right.
  • Right-wing perspectives on economics and political economy.
  • News and history relevant to the political Right.
  • Right-wing responses to current events.
  • Right-wing perspectives on social and economic problems.
  • Political, social, cultural, and economic problems and their solutions according to the political Right.
  • The problems facing particular Right-wing movements or the political right in general, and how to resolve them.

Previous Iterations:


Poll History:

Poll 1: Is Cultural Marxism a Problem? (Jochistan) - 54% Voted Yes
Poll 2: Favourite Right-Wing Politicians? (Kauthar) - 25% voted Donald Trump
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Autocrats (Unnamed Island State) - 45% voted Vladamir Putin
Poll 4: Best Right-Wing Countries (Kauthar) - Putin's Russia 21%
Poll 5: Best Right-Wing Idealogue (Legitimists)

Poll 1: What Right-Wing Ideology do you adhere to? - 55 votes for Libertarian
Poll 2 Favourite Right-Wing Economic System - 31 votes for Neoliberalism
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator - 18 Votes Kai Shek and Pinochet
Poll 4: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator PART 2 - David Cameron 49%
Poll 5: Prominent Right-Wing NSers/Favourite Future Right-Wing Dictator - Old Tyrannia 39 votes/29%
Poll 6: Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictators - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) 43 Votes/23%

Poll 0.1: Continue the Old Poll Y/N
Poll 1: Favourite Right-Wing Ideologies - Libertarianism/Minarchism

Poll 1: Favorite Centre-Right Parties - Republican Party (US) 39%
Poll 2: What should be the most important core value of a state ideology? Liberty 47%

Poll 1: Which piece of literature has been most significant to the development of right-wing ideology? - Reflections on the Revolution in France 68/237 (29%)
Poll 2: Favourite constitutional/government models? - US 166/528 (31%)

Poll 1: If you could reverse the outcomes of one of these events, which one would it be? - The Russian Revolution 116/343 (34%)
Poll 2: If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be? - The Roman Empire 119/495 (24%)

Do you drink alcohol and what's your opinion of it?
No, and I have a negative opinion of it. It should remain legal. - 57 (36%)
Total Votes: 157 (Recorded 09/01/2017)

Poll 1: Which of the following Trump picks are you most happy with? And are you overall satisfied with them? - James Norman Mattis 92/384 Terrible picks, what have we gotten ourselves into. 97/384
Poll 2: Is Islam compatible with western civilisation? No - 102/330. If reformed yes - 102/330
Poll 3: Which side, for the sake of mankind, should have won WW1? The Allied Powers - 225/385
Poll 4: Was the Reformation a good thing? Yes - 146/287

Poll 1: If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be? Treaty of Versailles - 365/564

Poll 1: What stance do you take on immigration? Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model. - 204/814

Poll 1: Which Kievan/Novrogrodian/Russian/Soviet leader was the greatest? Peter I The Great. 66/210

Poll 1: Which Japanese Shogunate was the most glorious? - MacArthur Shogunate :'). 289/450

Poll I: How should the government interact with religion? - Secularism 124/212 (58%)
Poll II: What's your favorite Eastern Philosophy? - Confucianism 45/206 (22%), Other/None 56/206 (27%)
Poll III: What's your favorite style of architecture? - Gothic 33/189 (17%)
Poll IV: To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe? - Natural Law Theory 20/112 (18%)

Poll I: Who is your favourite right-wing fiction writer? - JRR Tolkien 101/187 (54%)
Poll II: Do you consider nationalism and patriotism synonymous? - No- I am a patriot, not a nationalist (34%)

Poll I: Is Jair Bolsonaro's presidency a good thing for Brazil? - No 101/196 (52%)
Poll II: Has Angela Merkel's leadership been good for Germany? - No 112/222 (50%)
Poll III: Has Donald Trump's presidency so far been beneficial to the United States? - No 82/149 (55%)
Poll IV: Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan? - Unsure 52/119 (44%)

Reading Suggestions:
If you’re looking to read something relevant to right-wing politics, consider reading some of the texts below. If you think something’s missing from this list, please post a recommendation. If you think something should be removed, please explain why.

  • ”Leviathan”
    — Thomas Hobbes. [size=85](Read Here)
  • ”Two Treatises of Government”
    — John Locke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Protestant Work Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.”
    — Max Weber.
  • ”Reflections on the Revolution in France”
    — Edmund Burke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Wealth Of Nations”
    — Adam Smith. (Read Here)
  • ”Essay on the Generative Principle of Political Constitutions and other Human Institutions”
    — Joseph de Maistre. (Read Here)
  • ”Rerum novarum”
    — Pope Leo XIII. (Read Here)
  • ”The Crisis of the Modern World”
    — Rene Guenon. (Read Here)
  • ”The Doctrine Of Fascism”
    — Benito Mussolini. (Read Here)
  • ”The Conservative Mind”
    — Russell Kirk.
  • "On the Constutution of Church and State"
    — Samuel Taylor Coleridge
  • "Political Theology"
    — Carl Schmitt (Read Here)
  • "Revolt Against The Modern World"
    — Julius Evola
  • "How To Be A Conservative"
    — Roger Scruton

If you have a penchant for the colour red and the thought of top hats and canes stirs your bloodlust, you might find yourself fitting in better over at the Left-Wing Discussion Thread.
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:02 pm

Ok, so how are we gonna break in the new thread?
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:04 pm

Cappuccina wrote:Ok, so how are we gonna break in the new thread?

I'll take suggestions for what the first poll should be.
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Poll?
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The New California Republic wrote:Poll?

I'm taking suggestions.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:05 pm

Cappuccina wrote:Ok, so how are we gonna break in the new thread?


Normal practice is for at least one regular to get deleted on some dodgy pretext.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:08 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:Annex Mexico and institute National Syndicalism!

National sovereignty is - for many of us right-wing sorts - one of the foremost values of international relations: we can call upon countries to "do something!", yes, and we can sign agreements to that extent, but we* cannot actually force them to do anything. Since I cannot obtain a response from whoever posted this: What benefit will there be to making Newer Mexico the 52nd American State beside "It's for my own political gain?"

*or, more to the point, you; somebody like myself who holds exclusively British Citizenship should normally have no business going about this, but then if Sophie Turner and The 1975 can decry "Heartbeat Bills" and Stephen Fry can plead with the Brazilians not to elect Jair Bolsonaro...
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:18 pm

I have a tentative poll up about trade unions and right-wing political parties. It will remain up for the time being unless someone has a better idea or will stay up until we hit 100 pages if people like it.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:54 pm

Meligoland wrote:trade unions are a vital institution and should absolutely be embraced.

Popular support tends to be big for any political ideal to survive.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:05 pm

So this thread series is finally old enough to no longer be fawned over by right-wing libertarians?
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:08 pm

Torrocca wrote:So this thread series is finally old enough to no longer be fawned over by right-wing libertarians?

I vote for the LWDT to annex the RWDT.
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If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:10 pm

Kowani wrote:
Torrocca wrote:So this thread series is finally old enough to no longer be fawned over by right-wing libertarians?

I vote for the LWDT to annex the RWDT.

That would just make everything soulless and boring.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:11 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Kowani wrote:I vote for the LWDT to annex the RWDT.

That would just make everything soulless and boring.


On the contrary, revolutions are the least boring thing humanity can do.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:12 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Kowani wrote:I vote for the LWDT to annex the RWDT.

i'm sorry friend but you have it reserved.

RWDT needs Lebensraum and so must annex LWDT.

Exactly, we are on thread 18 while they are on 8. They need to give up some room for colonization.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:That would just make everything soulless and boring.


On the contrary, revolutions are the least boring thing humanity can do.

I was talking about the LWDT. It's very boring.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:13 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Kowani wrote:I vote for the LWDT to annex the RWDT.

That would just make everything soulless and boring.

I don’t think you know me very well.
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If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:15 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
On the contrary, revolutions are the least boring thing humanity can do.

I was talking about the LWDT. It's very boring.


Mostly because we don't have a decent fill of batshit insane ideas that revolve around 'Murica conquering >50% of the world unlike this thread series, but I digress.
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"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:17 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Meligoland wrote:i'm sorry friend but you have it reserved.

RWDT needs Lebensraum and so must annex LWDT.

Exactly, we are on thread 18 while they are on 8. They need to give up some room for colonization.

9,000 pages of people complaining about modern society isn’t an accomplishment.
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If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:18 pm

Kowani wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Exactly, we are on thread 18 while they are on 8. They need to give up some room for colonization.

9,000 pages of people complaining about modern society isn’t an accomplishment.

Tbf making a single post in NSG about any issue pretty much invalidates all future accomplishments.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:19 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I was talking about the LWDT. It's very boring.


Mostly because we don't have a decent fill of batshit insane ideas that revolve around 'Murica conquering >50% of the world unlike this thread series, but I digress.

That's what makes us so fun.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:21 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Mostly because we don't have a decent fill of batshit insane ideas that revolve around 'Murica conquering >50% of the world unlike this thread series, but I digress.

That's what makes us so fun.


I dunno about you, but the last thing I'd call unremitting cries for war and bloodshed is "fun".
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"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

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Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
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Postby Nakena » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:22 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:That's what makes us so fun.


I dunno about you, but the last thing I'd call unremitting cries for war and bloodshed is "fun".


You and OEP should do a HOI4 match (with some cool mods) and livestream it.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:24 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Kowani wrote:9,000 pages of people complaining about modern society isn’t an accomplishment.

Tbf making a single post in NSG about any issue pretty much invalidates all future accomplishments.

Not really how it works, but ok.
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If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
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