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New York abandons plans for mens shelter

Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:53 am

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The city has agreed to place only women — not single men, as first planned — at the 200-bed homeless shelter planned for 127-03 20 Ave. in College Point. The facility is expected to open this week. Area leaders who fought to get the plan stopped declared a partial victory. Concerns had been expressed about placing single men — some of whom may have been formerly incarcerated — near five neighborhood schools with young children. Residents also called the 20th Avenue location bad because of its lack of subway access and distance from social services centers.


Anti-male hysteria about them being sexual predators and so on causing us to lash out at the vulnerable in society. Hmm.

“The community remained diligent, vigilant and united and has now successfully secured the conversion to a shelter for women, rather than single men," state Sen. John Liu (D-Bayside) said in a prepared statement. "Although the plan is by no means perfect, we are satisfied that a far better outcome has been achieved.”


Oh look, a Senator. It's a fringe minority tho, not representative.
Even when it's, you know.

A representative.

Helping women is a much better outcome than helping men. Forget all the excuses and justifications for making the decision, they just avoided accidentally spending some resources on helping men with destroyed lives and remembered that men don't deserve help and will just go to the local schools and attack all the kids anyway.

Hundreds rallied against the plan earlier this year in College Point. Other shelter proposals in different communities across Queens, such as Glendale recently, have generated major backlash.


Whenever you try and get shit done for men this kind of shit happens. But notice that major institutions and influential activists don't turn on these protestors and start trying to marginalize them or vilify them while discussing how society has an anti-male problem that needs to be addressed or discussing the root causes of this hostility and dehumanization, instead, those institutions cave in and are like "No you're right we shouldn't help men.".

"This is not what we demanded, certainly it’s not what we hoped for," College Point Residents' Coalition member Michael Deng said in his own statement. "However, we do feel that a women’s shelter will be better and is a less intimidating fit for the community, particularly the elderly, women and school kids, as their safety is what we are most worried and concerned about."


Meanwhile, men can fuck off and die.

Some facts;


3/4 of the homeless are men. When you only count people "Sleeping rough" (I.E, those with nowhere to stay and no roof), this jumps to 90%.

80% of rough sleepers who die every year are men.

Just another day in a gynocentrist society I guess.

Vilification of men and otherizing them has consequences for the most vulnerable in society, it won't get fixed until people realize that and fight against it, and that includes rejecting feminist ideology and its adherents as valid participants in a civilized society because of the damage their participation in it causes. It will also probably involve direct action so that misandry can no longer continue without causing more harm to those practicing it than benefit, as our institutions are awash with ideologues who sympathize with these anti-male priorities and viewpoints.

As for damage;
In this example, the vilification of men as a danger to children is rooted in feminist campaigning across several decades. NOW, the largest feminist organization in the world, using it as a reason to oppose joint custody of children, as well as persistent feminist framing of men as violent and a danger to women in a way women aren't to men, note "The elderly, women, and school kids", and so on. Finally there is feminist culpability in their suppression of the mens rights movement while claiming they are an equality movement, then failing to take up the fight in instances like this.

Akin to me freaking out and gaslighting/shouting at you when you try and cook for yourself and demanding no shops sell you any food because it's my job and if they do then me and my influential friends will harbor an outright vendetta against them in the media and academia, all while gaslighting you and saying that its my intention to cook for both for us despite all evidence to the contrary, then just, you know.
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Postby Arkhane » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:04 am

Please, women and mothers are the frequent abusers, and the scary fact is, they get away with it most of the time.
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Fuck off with this bullshit, absolute disgrace.
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Well that’s a fucking Disgrace
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:08 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Fuck off with this bullshit, absolute disgrace.


When is the last time you punished a feminist for being a feminist? Even in a small way like deciding not to buy from them or whatever?

If you allow someone to keep poisoning the water supply without taking action against them, you cannot rightly complain when people start dying from it.
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Fuck off with this bullshit, absolute disgrace.


When is the last time you punished a feminist for being a feminist? Even in a small way like deciding not to buy from them or whatever?

If you allow someone to keep poisoning the water supply without taking action against them, you cannot rightly complain when people start dying from it.

Do not even fucking think for one fucking second of having a go at me Ostro. I am really not in the fucking mood for it.
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Arkhane wrote:Please, women and mothers are the frequent abusers, and the scary fact is, they get away with it most of the time.
A woman beating a little boy is ignored unlike a father beating a little girl, and a woman beating her husband is comedic and laughed about.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:12 am

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When is the last time you punished a feminist for being a feminist? Even in a small way like deciding not to buy from them or whatever?

If you allow someone to keep poisoning the water supply without taking action against them, you cannot rightly complain when people start dying from it.

Do not even fucking think for one fucking second of having a go at me Ostro. I am really not in the fucking mood for it.


It's meant to prompt thought tbh. Sorry if you're having a bad day.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:13 am

That is complete nonsense. If the protest were to make the shelter for both genders I would be more sympathetic. But this is just bullshit.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:15 am

Thermodolia wrote:Well that’s a fucking Disgrace


I get what you mean, but "Disgrace" is kind of the wrong word.

In functional terms it isn't though because that's a matter of reputation and perception and so long as powerful institutions continue to push feminist ideology on the populace, there is no situation where women or feminists can be "disgraced", the fault is always with men and they are always the bad guys. That's the story they are demanding society internalize.

They also rationalize to themselves how it's okay, so it's not like their conscience plagues them. And it's a matter of resources where they now have them and men don't.

So there's no actual consequences for this behavior, which is why it happens.

It might be wrong, but they don't care about that because they disagree that it's wrong, because they don't care about men. It's not a disgrace because they control reputations through the media and so on.

What it is, is inhumane and so on, and an example of how a society that tolerates feminists and misandry will be inhumane, with that inhumanity and the lack of consequences for it, including disgrace as a consequence, being a call to action.

Idk, could be me being nitpicky, but disgrace kind of implies to me they're facing a consequence of people viewing them as disgraced.
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Do not even fucking think for one fucking second of having a go at me Ostro. I am really not in the fucking mood for it.


It's meant to prompt thought tbh. Sorry if you're having a bad day.

Ive had a bit of a rough year and its finally getting to me, sorry for snapping.
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:
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It's meant to prompt thought tbh. Sorry if you're having a bad day.

Ive had a bit of a rough year and its finally getting to me, sorry for snapping.


It's cool dude, I get it, I have a reputation.
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Postby Servilis » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:19 am

the shelter decision does sound problematic though


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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:38 am

Servilis wrote:the shelter decision does sound problematic though


(because non binaries exist, and so do binary trans ppl)


And many are often homeless at a young age due to parents kicking them out in their teens. New York and San Francisco are where many such individuals make their way.
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This is a bunch of BS.
If we don't help homeless men because "all men are evil" than men who become homeless are left to die.
This is what's wrong with the world, if it's wrong to say all people of color are dumb and thives than it should be wrong to say all men are rapests.

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Postby Ors Might » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:13 am

What the hell is this absolute fucking garbage? They were so close to doing something good for men and then at the last minute they snatch it away, as if to just rub it in.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:23 am

Imagine if we had a day without men. Like all men go on strike from their jobs, men stop doing basic household chores, men stop doing out in public except to protest and nothing goes back to normal till the shelter is built. I wonder if third wave mysandrists would still want this shit or if they would beg us to stop.

Remember that book "what do we need men for?" Well I was gonna answer that men are needed for reproduction at the very least, but then I remember that these pseudo feminists think having children is a patriarchal system of control and their genetics will not survive. They're doing us a favor in that regard
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Christian Confederation wrote:This is a bunch of BS.
If we don't help homeless men because "all men are evil" than men who become homeless are left to die.
This is what's wrong with the world, if it's wrong to say all people of color are dumb and thives than it should be wrong to say all men are rapests.

Good Lord what has this country come to?


we live in a society where saying all Muslims are terrorists will earn you a "not all muslims" rebuke, but saying all men are rapists or all white people are racists is perfectly A-ok. It's funny cause I don't remember anyone ever telling me to not rape. I just never do. Weird, how do these third wave feminists explain that?
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Rojava Free State wrote:Imagine if we had a day without men. Like all men go on strike from their jobs, men stop doing basic household chores, men stop doing out in public except to protest and nothing goes back to normal till the shelter is built. I wonder if third wave mysandrists would still want this shit or if they would beg us to stop.

Remember that book "what do we need men for?" Well I was gonna answer that men are needed for reproduction at the very least, but then I remember that these pseudo feminists think having children is a patriarchal system of control and their genetics will not survive. They're doing us a favor in that regard

I always assumed most of them simply would support ways of childbirth that don't require a man's sperm? Or, at least not the man it comes from...
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Rojava Free State wrote:Imagine if we had a day without men. Like all men go on strike from their jobs, men stop doing basic household chores, men stop doing out in public except to protest and nothing goes back to normal till the shelter is built. I wonder if third wave mysandrists would still want this shit or if they would beg us to stop.

Remember that book "what do we need men for?" Well I was gonna answer that men are needed for reproduction at the very least, but then I remember that these pseudo feminists think having children is a patriarchal system of control and their genetics will not survive. They're doing us a favor in that regard

I always assumed most of them simply would support ways of childbirth that don't require a man's sperm? Or, at least not the man it comes from...


Good luck keeping the population above a few million with invitro. These third wavers are gonna die alone with some cats, cause in the end they're just the female version of the MGTOWs. A bunch of average to subpar looking females with an axe to grind and two embarrassed parents. Winners don't become third wavers. The worst of the worst do. It's an extremist ideology like any other and seeks to build an unnatural hierarchy, pitting one gender against another
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Christian Confederation wrote:This is a bunch of BS.
If we don't help homeless men because "all men are evil" than men who become homeless are left to die.
This is what's wrong with the world, if it's wrong to say all people of color are dumb and thives than it should be wrong to say all men are rapests.

Good Lord what has this country come to?


we live in a society where saying all Muslims are terrorists will earn you a "not all muslims" rebuke, but saying all men are rapists or all white people are racists is perfectly A-ok. It's funny cause I don't remember anyone ever telling me to not rape. I just never do. Weird, how do these third wave feminists explain that?

I've actually not seen anyone rebuke "all muslims are terrorists" like that. As far as I'm concerned, it's the media trying to capitalize off of our identitarian biases. Easier to control the masses when you turn the attention towards "teh evil white men".
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It's disgusting to see these officials are so pleased with themselves for being sexist, classist, and ignorant. Homeless men are treated worse than almost anyone else in society.
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Postby MineLegotia and Equestria » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:36 am

Ah. That's quite a problem.

Shouldn't they at least build an exact same shelter across the street for men then? And just have two cops in between? That's an easier solution.

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Page wrote:It's disgusting to see these legislators are so pleased with themselves for being sexist, classist, and ignorant. Homeless men are treated worse than almost anyone else in society.

Ironic how so many rich dickheads harp on about "privilege" when they have the most privilege of anyone in society. How anyone can consider a homeless man "privilege" because of his skin color or his gender, despite being literally fucking homeless, is entirely beyond me.
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