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Postby Ransium » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:08 pm

My opinion as a player:

While I think a long delegate streak is a good argument for a commendation, it’s not nearly good enough to basically the only argument. If this proposal has discussed more of Mikeswill’s region building efforts in his region and other achievements I may have been swayed to vote for. But simply pointing at 15 years (particularly when the straight streak of 15 years was only accomplished by supporting condemnable actions) is insufficient to meet the high bar of a commendation, IMO. While both NewTexas and myself had our respective streaks pointed at as reasons for the commendation, they are certainly not the main or essentially only reasons mentioned.
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Postby PQ Forge » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:49 pm

Just a quick two cents (looks like it’s about to go under, and I voted no anyhow for reasons)

From Mike’s factbook regarding the security council:
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Regardless of how you feel about deals or understandings with raiders, which seems to be the main objection of several voters, to me that’s a perfectly valid method of game play. If you go by simple results, it’s worked. Extremely well. I doubt many other regions have tried that, or with as much success. That’s one of the reasons I moved to the region, I was tired of being in regions that were constantly being raided. Some may see a moral dilemma, I see it as a perfectly effective approach to gameplay and commendable in its own right.
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 pm

Commend Mikeswill" was defeated 10,905 votes to 2,924.

Who could have predicted this one coming?

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Postby Praeceps » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:07 pm

Wayneactia wrote:Commend Mikeswill" was defeated 10,905 votes to 2,924.

Who could have predicted this one coming?

Anyone but Jocospor?
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Postby Jocospor » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:06 am

OOC: Sorry Mike. If it had come from anyone else, it probably would've passed. We'll just have to try again at 20! :hug:
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:22 am

Wayneactia wrote:Commend Mikeswill" was defeated 10,905 votes to 2,924.

Who could have predicted this one coming?

Everyone bar one.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:42 am

Jocospor wrote:OOC: Sorry Mike. If it had come from anyone else, it probably would've passed. We'll just have to try again at 20! :hug:

I rather doubt this particular proposal would been passable by anyone.
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Postby East Meranopirus » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:49 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Jocospor wrote:OOC: Sorry Mike. If it had come from anyone else, it probably would've passed. We'll just have to try again at 20! :hug:

I rather doubt this particular proposal would been passable by anyone.

Agreed. I'm sure the vote counts would have been closer if the author was different, but ultimately, having a long delegacy streak (due to raider affiliations) is not good enough as the only reason for a commendation.
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Postby ArenaC » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:00 pm

Jocospor wrote:OOC: Sorry Mike. If it had come from anyone else, it probably would've passed. We'll just have to try again at 20! :hug:

I could tell from everyone else he DIDN’T want it.

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Postby Jocospor » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:28 am

ArenaC wrote:
Jocospor wrote:OOC: Sorry Mike. If it had come from anyone else, it probably would've passed. We'll just have to try again at 20! :hug:

I could tell from everyone else he DIDN’T want it.

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Postby La xinga » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:55 am

Jocospor wrote:OOC: Sorry Mike. If it had come from anyone else, it probably would've passed. We'll just have to try again at 20! :hug:


But even Mike voted against his own condemnation...
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:43 pm

This failed two weeks ago. There’s no need to bump it back up.
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Postby La xinga » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:51 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:This failed two weeks ago. There’s no need to bump it back up.


Then they would have locked it.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:41 pm

La xinga wrote:Then they would have locked it.

No, we don't do that. We trust our players to not foolishly post in dead threads, since gravedigging is against the rules.

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