How will Brexit be taught in 500 years?

[Australian rePublic]

I don’t know what that stands for. If I knew what it stood for I’d tell ya

My point exactly.

What does it stand for then, if I look "PLC" I can find a million things, and I would doubt that you're refering to any of them

[Napkizemlja]

Probably not too much will be made of it. How many people today care about the Diet of Worms, which arguably is more significant?

[Salandriagado]

My point exactly.

What does it stand for then, if I look "PLC" I can find a million things, and I would doubt that you're refering to any of them

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Feel free to substitute in the Spanish Netherlands, Habsburg Spain, the Kalmar Union, or any of the other easily-as-significant-as-Brexit political changes in Europe over the years that most people have never heard of.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

Firstly, you mean generation alpha. I'm in generation Z. I was born in the first year of Gen Z (1995) and I'm in my mid-20's. Gen Alpha started in 2010, and believe, based on my own family's interactions alone, Gen Alpha are old enough to speak to WWII survivours. Probably not enough to give a shit, but definiately old enough to hold a conversation.

Secondly, let's see- raised in 2030's= using internet by 2040's at the latest. That's just 20 years away. What in the fudge makes you think Godwin's law is going away anywhere near that speed?

Yeah, Asia generally doesn't really give a shit (Nazi bars in Thailand or Mein Kampf being a best seller in India).

People in the West don't really give a shit about the autrocities carried by the Japanese or the Communists (especially those idiots who still champion communism despite the mass human rights abuses everywhere it's been tried). Many Asians correctly see Japan as Westerners see NAZIzism, and many Eastern Europeans and non-PRC Chinese people (Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau) communism the way that Westerns see NAZIism. The only difference is that Japan got away with it, and we still have idiots who champion communism

Tbh even that doesn't make much sense, except maybe the part about Europeans and moral superiority. There had been more effectively done genocides than the holocaust, both before and since (e.g. Armenian and Rwandan genocides)

What are you talking about? The Armenian Genocide was Orchestrated by Middle Easterners (the Ottomans) against other Middle Easterners (i.e. the Assyrians and the Armenians) in fact many of the victims were themselves European (the Greeks). The Rawandan Genocide was orchastrated by Africans (Hutu) against other Africans (Tutsi, Tswa and other Hutus). Neither were orchastrated by Europeans.

Where did I say they were?

[Chan Island]

What does it stand for then, if I look "PLC" I can find a million things, and I would doubt that you're refering to any of them

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Feel free to substitute in the Spanish Netherlands, Habsburg Spain, the Kalmar Union, or any of the other easily-as-significant-as-Brexit political changes in Europe over the years that most people have never heard of.

In fairness, the fall of the Spanish Netherlands is still a big deal in the Benelux since it was the event that defined the region's borders to this day. The Dutch, the Belgians and the Luxembourgers all have national origin stories that more or less originate in that timeframe.

Can't talk too much about the other ones. The Kalmar Union in particular though is probably a good example, especially considering how relatively recently it fell.

[Thermodolia]

What does it stand for then, if I look "PLC" I can find a million things, and I would doubt that you're refering to any of them

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Feel free to substitute in the Spanish Netherlands, Habsburg Spain, the Kalmar Union, or any of the other easily-as-significant-as-Brexit political changes in Europe over the years that most people have never heard of.

Maybe I’m just a history nerd but I know all of those way way too well. Thanks EU4!

[Tobleste]

In 500 years Brexit will get it's 1000th extension

I was about to say the same. In 500 years, they'll still be working on the backstop so why bother putting it in textbooks?

[Salandriagado]

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Feel free to substitute in the Spanish Netherlands, Habsburg Spain, the Kalmar Union, or any of the other easily-as-significant-as-Brexit political changes in Europe over the years that most people have never heard of.

Maybe I’m just a history nerd but I know all of those way way too well. Thanks EU4!

My examples may or may not be massively biased in favour of things that are in EU4.

[Neko-koku]

I was just thinking about this one day.
One knows how, for example, in British schools kids have to learn a lot about the Tudors, people that lived 500 years ago? Or how in American schools kids learn about Columbus' arrival in America?
I was just wondering about how in the future, say, 500 years from now, kids in school will learn about Brexit? (if at all)
Will Brexit be just another generic history topic that the history curriculum will skim through, or will it be a huge section in the curriculum?
Please, share your thoughts (if you want to)

Who cares about how the state brainwashes children?

[Rojava Free State]

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Feel free to substitute in the Spanish Netherlands, Habsburg Spain, the Kalmar Union, or any of the other easily-as-significant-as-Brexit political changes in Europe over the years that most people have never heard of.

Maybe I’m just a history nerd but I know all of those way way too well. Thanks EU4!

Yeah I've heard of those as well but that's just me and my social sciences. I mention Kosovo and half of the people think it's a rapper, a quarter think it's an Italian sea side resort, and Albanians think "struggle for the fatherland" along with flashbacks to the Kosovo war of 1998

[Washingtonian Republic]

The European Union will be looked at as a failed supranational prototype, and possibly reorganized in attempt to execute the idea once again in a more effective method.

[Neko-koku]

Maybe I’m just a history nerd but I know all of those way way too well. Thanks EU4!

Yeah I've heard of those as well but that's just me and my social sciences. I mention Kosovo and half of the people think it's a rapper, a quarter think it's an Italian sea side resort, and Albanians think "struggle for the fatherland" along with flashbacks to the Kosovo war of 1998

I usually hate talking about human memory because it absurdly sucks.

Kosovo is a fucking country established in 2008. However other than nerds and Balkans people who know about it?

[Thermodolia]

The European Union will be looked at as a failed supranational prototype, and possibly reorganized in attempt to execute the idea once again in a more effective method.

500 years from now the EU will be remembered like the HRE, ie nobody outside of history nerds or EUIV players

[Neko-koku]

The European Union will be looked at as a failed supranational prototype, and possibly reorganized in attempt to execute the idea once again in a more effective method.

500 years from now the EU will be remembered like the HRE, ie nobody outside of history nerds or EUIV players

Yeah.

[The Archregimancy]

In 2519 AD, the state opening of Parliament will begin with the annual ceremonial extension of the Brexit deadline by the Speaker, following which Black Rod summons the Commons to hear the Queen's Speech, read out by the latest clone of Her Eternal Majesty Elizabeth II, as recently decanted from the Windsor Castle womb vats. Few except academics and the politically obsessed remember why the ceremonial Brexit extension is necessary, but it adds greatly to the pomp of the occasion, especially when the Holy Roman God-Emperor journeys from His Martian palace of New Brussels to hear the speech of His British vassal in person.

How many people today care about the Diet of Worms

Quite a few, I would think.

[Thermodolia]

In 2519 AD, the state opening of Parliament will begin with the annual ceremonial extension of the Brexit deadline by the Speaker, following which Black Rod summons the Commons to hear the Queen's Speech, read out by the latest clone of Her Eternal Majesty Elizabeth II, as recently decanted from the Windsor Castle womb vats. Few except academics and the politically obsessed remember why the ceremonial Brexit extension is necessary, but it adds greatly to the pomp of the occasion, especially when the Holy Roman God-Emperor journeys from His Martian palace of New Brussels to hear the speech of His British vassal in person.

How many people today care about the Diet of Worms

Quite a few, I would think.

Macron is the God-Emperor in this timeline?

[United Muscovite Nations]

In 2519 AD, the state opening of Parliament will begin with the annual ceremonial extension of the Brexit deadline by the Speaker, following which Black Rod summons the Commons to hear the Queen's Speech, read out by the latest clone of Her Eternal Majesty Elizabeth II, as recently decanted from the Windsor Castle womb vats. Few except academics and the politically obsessed remember why the ceremonial Brexit extension is necessary, but it adds greatly to the pomp of the occasion, especially when the Holy Roman God-Emperor journeys from His Martian palace of New Brussels to hear the speech of His British vassal in person.






Quite a few, I would think.

Macron is the God-Emperor in this timeline?

He wasn't kidding about the "Jupiterian" presidency.

[Heloin]

It won't be. Even if worst case scenario does happen and it leads to the break up of the UK then what would be remembered is the breakup and end of the UK not the stupid portmanteau and political crisis. Most people don't know what the 100 Years War was even about, fewer still the 30 Years War.

The European Union will be looked at as a failed supranational prototype, and possibly reorganized in attempt to execute the idea once again in a more effective method.

500 years from now the EU will be remembered like the HRE, ie nobody outside of history nerds or EUIV players

And we'll still be waiting around for Vicky III.

[Neko-koku]

It won't be. Even if worst case scenario does happen and it leads to the break up of the UK then what would be remembered is the breakup and end of the UK not the stupid portmanteau and political crisis. Most people don't know what the 100 Years War was even about, fewer still the 30 Years War.

500 years from now the EU will be remembered like the HRE, ie nobody outside of history nerds or EUIV players

And we'll still be waiting around for Vicky III.

I hate humans. That's another reason why we need AI. Humans fucking forget everything and believe in all kinds of lies.

[Heloin]

It won't be. Even if worst case scenario does happen and it leads to the break up of the UK then what would be remembered is the breakup and end of the UK not the stupid portmanteau and political crisis. Most people don't know what the 100 Years War was even about, fewer still the 30 Years War.


And we'll still be waiting around for Vicky III.

I hate humans. That's another reason why we need AI. Humans fucking forget everything and believe in all kinds of lies.

Good for you, bad idea, and not even slightly what I meant to imply.

It's more about cultural relevance and scale. People remember the Mongols because they left such a collective impression on the people's they conquered and with the speed and scale they did it at. At the same time while the Antipopes where important in understanding Medieval Catholicism, they aren't more then a historical footnote now that most people wouldn't or don't care to know about.

[The Archregimancy]

In 2519 AD, the state opening of Parliament will begin with the annual ceremonial extension of the Brexit deadline by the Speaker, following which Black Rod summons the Commons to hear the Queen's Speech, read out by the latest clone of Her Eternal Majesty Elizabeth II, as recently decanted from the Windsor Castle womb vats. Few except academics and the politically obsessed remember why the ceremonial Brexit extension is necessary, but it adds greatly to the pomp of the occasion, especially when the Holy Roman God-Emperor journeys from His Martian palace of New Brussels to hear the speech of His British vassal in person.

Macron is the God-Emperor in this timeline?

Who?

This 'Macron' of whom you write is a mere footnote in this inevitable future which - through the power of prophecy - I have graciously shared with you.

No, our God-Emperor is the time travelling and now-immortal Constantine XI, plucked from 1453 by the European Time Police at the very moment that he cast aside the imperial regalia as his city fell to the Turks. Which is, of course, why his body wasn't, has never been, found.

Ankara - and the Republic of Turkey finally joined what we now call the Holy Roman European Imperial Union in the late 23rd century - tried to veto Constantine's appointment in 2368 AD on the basis of cultural sensitivity, but Turkey's accession agreement specifically stopped them from vetoing the choice of Emperor.

[Page]

I think the phrase ''have your cake and eat it too'' will be replaced by something along the lines of ''the Brexit fallacy'', since the success of Brexit can be attributed to people who didn't understand that they can't get rid of all the things about the EU they don't like but still keep all the things they do.

Which is why I think a second referendum is absolutely justified. I'm all for direct democracy but people had no idea what they were voting for, Brexit was pushed by fraudsters who straight up lied about what Brexit would mean.

[Baltenstein]

Macron is the God-Emperor in this timeline?

Who?

This 'Macron' of whom you write is a mere footnote in this inevitable future which - through the power of prophecy - I have graciously shared with you.

No, our God-Emperor is the time travelling and now-immortal Constantine XI, plucked from 1453 by the European Time Police at the very moment that he cast aside the imperial regalia as his city fell to the Turks. Which is, of course, why his body wasn't, has never been, found.

Ankara - and the Republic of Turkey finally joined what we now call the Holy Roman European Imperial Union in the late 23rd century - tried to veto Constantine's appointment in 2368 AD on the basis of cultural sensitivity, but Turkey's accession agreement specifically stopped them from vetoing the choice of Emperor.

What's the role of Ali Kemal's great-grandson in all of this? I assume an epic lightsaber/scimitar duel on top of the Hagia Sophia also happened at some point?

[MORBY SHIPPERS]

Am I alone in n thinking that both brexit and the EU are bad? I don't like the EU, but I also don't agree with the reasons that the UK is leaving.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Macron is the God-Emperor in this timeline?

Who?

This 'Macron' of whom you write is a mere footnote in this inevitable future which - through the power of prophecy - I have graciously shared with you.

No, our God-Emperor is the time travelling and now-immortal Constantine XI, plucked from 1453 by the European Time Police at the very moment that he cast aside the imperial regalia as his city fell to the Turks. Which is, of course, why his body wasn't, has never been, found.

Ankara - and the Republic of Turkey finally joined what we now call the Holy Roman European Imperial Union in the late 23rd century - tried to veto Constantine's appointment in 2368 AD on the basis of cultural sensitivity, but Turkey's accession agreement specifically stopped them from vetoing the choice of Emperor.

As a concession, Ataturk was appointed Eternal Prime Minister.