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California loses right to set emissions standards.

Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:26 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1055811

So, Trump has axed California's ability to set their own emissions standards after they rolled out standards that required zero emissions.

Personally this is a good move. We should slowly cut any and every hold California has on this nation beyond the most basic of influences.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am

Has California done dumb shit again?

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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:29 am

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Maybe we should call California little Indochina now.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:33 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1055811

So, Trump has axed California's ability to set their own emissions standards after they rolled out standards that required zero emissions.

Personally this is a good move. We should slowly cut any and every hold California has on this nation beyond the most basic of influences.


Oh diddums, were they forcing you to be less wantonly destructive to the environment?
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Postby Conservative Districts » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:34 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Has California done dumb shit again?



On the contrary actually. Here's some backstory. The federal government has regulations put in place to set the level of emissions allowed right. Well California was the first state to introduce stricter laws and a couple dozen states followed in suit. Which causes car companies to priorities higher emission vehicles to be sold in other states yada yada yada. Well the federal government (Trump administration) has decided to take the power back and has ruled California's stricter laws to be unenforceable. This is the most basic, easiest way I could explain what has transpired. Now California's attorney general is threatening to sue the government if they go through with this plan.

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:36 am

Zero emissions on all vehicles is simply implausible currently, especially in a state as large as California.

In no small part because it'll cost the end user too much in a state where everything is already expensive as hell. Maybe resolve the severe homeless problem and sanitation crisis before saying "lol everyone just buy electric : )"?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:37 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1055811

So, Trump has axed California's ability to set their own emissions standards after they rolled out standards that required zero emissions.

Personally this is a good move. We should slowly cut any and every hold California has on this nation beyond the most basic of influences.


So much for State's Rights.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:37 am

Proctopeo wrote:Zero emissions on all vehicles is simply implausible currently, especially in a state as large as California.

In no small part because it'll cost the end user too much in a state where everything is already expensive as hell. Maybe resolve the severe homeless problem and sanitation crisis before saying "lol everyone just buy electric : )"?


It's like california is run by german green party members or something
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:37 am

Proctopeo wrote:Zero emissions on all vehicles is simply implausible currently, especially in a state as large as California.

In no small part because it'll cost the end user too much in a state where everything is already expensive as hell. Maybe resolve the severe homeless problem and sanitation crisis before saying "lol everyone just buy electric : )"?


California's regulations do not require all vehicles to be zero emissions.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:39 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Zero emissions on all vehicles is simply implausible currently, especially in a state as large as California.

In no small part because it'll cost the end user too much in a state where everything is already expensive as hell. Maybe resolve the severe homeless problem and sanitation crisis before saying "lol everyone just buy electric : )"?


It's like california is run by german green party members or something

internal combustion engine bad, power cars with goodwill and healing crystals instead

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Proctopeo wrote:Zero emissions on all vehicles is simply implausible currently, especially in a state as large as California.

In no small part because it'll cost the end user too much in a state where everything is already expensive as hell. Maybe resolve the severe homeless problem and sanitation crisis before saying "lol everyone just buy electric : )"?


California's regulations do not require all vehicles to be zero emissions.

Effectively, they do.
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Postby Kyria » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:39 am

Well, personally I disagree with this. I hope California can fight this and can reintroduce strict emissions standards. It’s one of the few good things about California in my opinion.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:40 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Has California done dumb shit again?

Yeah better to pollute the air we breathe in the name of more dough for business

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:40 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1055811

So, Trump has axed California's ability to set their own emissions standards after they rolled out standards that required zero emissions.

Personally this is a good move. We should slowly cut any and every hold California has on this nation beyond the most basic of influences.


So much for State's Rights.

We should do away with the rest of them while where at it or at least heavily restrict them
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:41 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So much for State's Rights.

We should do away with the rest of them while where at it or at least heavily restrict them

Yeah lets just do away with state and local governments while we're at it.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:41 am

Also isn't the GOP supposed to be all about smaller government and less federal control?
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:41 am

Kyria wrote:Well, personally I disagree with this. I hope California can fight this and can reintroduce strict emissions standards. It’s one of the few good things about California in my opinion.


They have good things?

Inb4 GDP

Yeah so does China and it isn't exactly the best place in the world.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:41 am

I don't see how Trump can just cancel the exemption granted to California by the Clean Air Act. Should Congress have to amend the law? Inquiring minds and all that.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:42 am

This I feel is a very good thing. I don't care which side of the climate change debate you are on. Anyone with even a shred of sanity can see that placing idiotic standards such as this only serves to paint the whole environmental movement as a bunch of clueless morons who care more about the world we live in than the quality of the lives we live. And that flat out discredits the whole idea.
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Postby Conservative Districts » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:43 am

So much for State's Rights.


It wasn't a right given to the states in the first place. It's kind of like marijuana. The federal government has it outlawed but some states have it legalized recreationally. The power was never given to the states, they just kind of did their own thing and flexed their muscles towards the federal government with the knowledge that they wouldn't try to stop them. Well in this case the federal government seized back control.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:43 am

Vassenor wrote:Also isn't the GOP supposed to be all about smaller government and less federal control?

Only when convenient for them

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:47 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
It's like california is run by german green party members or something

internal combustion engine bad, power cars with goodwill and healing crystals instead

Salandriagado wrote:
California's regulations do not require all vehicles to be zero emissions.

Effectively, they do.


No they don't.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We should do away with the rest of them while where at it or at least heavily restrict them

Yeah lets just do away with state and local governments while we're at it.

Do know what a unitary State is right? It doesn’t mean that we get rid of the state governments or local governments
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:49 am

Last time the US had DIRECT RULE from somewhere they sort of started to dump tea in the ocean.
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Postby Conservative Districts » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:50 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:internal combustion engine bad, power cars with goodwill and healing crystals instead


Effectively, they do.


No they don't.


Yes, they do. The way the legislation works is slowly but surely, it would be reduced to a zero-emissions regulaton.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:53 am

Conservative Districts wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
No they don't.


Yes, they do. The way the legislation works is slowly but surely, it would be reduced to a zero-emissions regulaton.


OK, then you won't mind proving it.
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