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Spanish Supreme Court upholds ban on Bull Torture

Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:45 pm

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/03/19/in ... 84895.html

A historic ruling by the Spanish Supreme court has upheld a ban on a traditional way to celebrate the Toro de la Vega in which a bull is lanced to death by a spear-wielding crowd after having been chased to the banks of the River Duero. Its about time barbaric practices like this where outlawed. The is zero justification for it. Its nothing short of animal cruelty.

Bullfighting was also been outlawed in the province of Catalonia but the court overturned it. Hopefully this ruling leads to it being outlawed nationwide as the animal cruelty that it is.

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:46 pm

Okay???
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Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:36 pm

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:41 pm

Kowani wrote:Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.

That is some bullshit. :p
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Postby Hirota » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:09 pm

Kowani wrote:Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.
Wow. You guys have some short memories.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:20 pm

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Kowani wrote:Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.
Wow. You guys have some short memories.

Depends on if you think colonialism or Franco was a shame or not.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:21 pm

Hirota wrote:
Kowani wrote:Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.
Wow. You guys have some short memories.

Didn’t realize all of the crap in our history was still going on.

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Hirota wrote:Wow. You guys have some short memories.

Depends on if you think colonialism or Franco was a shame or not.

Fuck both of those too.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:24 pm

Was anyone expecting this Spanish Incowsition?
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Bombadil wrote:Was anyone expecting this Spanish Incowsition?


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Bombadil wrote:Was anyone expecting this Spanish Incowsition?

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Postby GLDF » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:03 am

If you are going to hurt an animal, it should be for eating it and even then it should be as humane as possible.
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Postby That one gay guy » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:07 am

I misread this as "ball torture"

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Postby Federal Spanish States » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:10 pm

Kowani wrote:Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.


Aha... sure... totally not the current political situation... totally not our politicians... totally not the current economy... nope, has to be a piece of our own culture. facepalms

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GLDF wrote:If you are going to hurt an animal, it should be for eating it and even then it should be as humane as possible.


This is a rediculous idea.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:48 pm

Well, that's that settled then. Can't say I'm all that unhappy to see that practice now fade into the nightmares of the past.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:31 pm

Bulls. Angry, violent massive hulks of meat and muscle can be tortured?

huh.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:35 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:Bulls. Angry, violent massive hulks of meat and muscle can be tortured?

huh.


Yep. It’s in how the bullfighter slowly pierces the bull with swords (although they look more like ornate shorts piers to me). If done properly, the bull survives, being slowly tortured until its paralyzed.
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Postby US-SSR » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:47 pm

I had the privilege of seeing a rejoneo in Colombia. The skill of the picador as he controlled his horse with only his legs while holding and placing the pics -- a horse without a blindfold in a ring with a fighting bull is one skittish animal as you could imagine -- well what can anyone say. And the rejoneador placed his lance perfectly, resulting in an instant kill that brought me to my feet.

But hundreds of riders randomly stabbing at a bull with lances until it is brought to its knees? No thanks. A bad bullfight is a painful thing to witness.

I leave it to the Spanish, or the citizens of any other country, to decide whether or not the fiesta de toros is consistent with their modern sensibilities.

That one gay guy wrote:I misread this as "ball torture"


Stop me if you've heard this one before: it might have been in Pamplona that a foreign visitor was enjoying a meal in a local restaurant. He saw, and smelled, a succulent dish being brought to a fellow diner.

"Excuse me, but what is that dish that gentleman is enjoying?"

"Ah, senor, it is the, how you say, cojones of the bull, his testiclulos, how you say, the balls."

"I'd like some of that!"

"Lo siento, except we only get one dish of them each day. But come back tomorrow, we will save them for you."

The next day the visitor entered the restaurant expectantly and ordered the dish. But what came out was a tiny plate with a couple of foul-smelling things the size of quail's eggs.

"Say, what are these? I ordered the bull balls!"

"Ay, senor, lo siento, is that, bueno, today, the bull...he win."
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Postby Seythennia » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:47 pm

That one gay guy wrote:I misread this as "ball torture"

I move to officially rename cockfighting and bullfighting collectively as "cock & bull torture"
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US-SSR wrote:I had the privilege of seeing a rejoneo in Colombia. The skill of the picador as he controlled his horse with only his legs while holding and placing the pics -- a horse without a blindfold in a ring with a fighting bull is one skittish animal as you could imagine -- well what can anyone say. And the rejoneador placed his lance perfectly, resulting in an instant kill that brought me to my feet.

But hundreds of riders randomly stabbing at a bull with lances until it is brought to its knees? No thanks. A bad bullfight is a painful thing to witness.

I leave it to the Spanish, or the citizens of any other country, to decide whether or not the fiesta de toros is consistent with their modern sensibilities.

That one gay guy wrote:I misread this as "ball torture"


Stop me if you've heard this one before: it might have been in Pamplona that a foreign visitor was enjoying a meal in a local restaurant. He saw, and smelled, a succulent dish being brought to a fellow diner.

"Excuse me, but what is that dish that gentleman is enjoying?"

"Ah, senor, it is the, how you say, cojones of the bull, his testiclulos, how you say, the balls."

"I'd like some of that!"

"Lo siento, except we only get one dish of them each day. But come back tomorrow, we will save them for you."

The next day the visitor entered the restaurant expectantly and ordered the dish. But what came out was a tiny plate with a couple of foul-smelling things the size of quail's eggs.

"Say, what are these? I ordered the bull balls!"

"Ay, senor, lo siento, is that, bueno, today, the bull...he win."


That’s actually a joke.
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Seythennia wrote:
That one gay guy wrote:I misread this as "ball torture"

I move to officially rename cockfighting and bullfighting collectively as "cock & bull torture"

We will rename it to cock and bull torture and we will look sexy in the process.

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Dresderstan wrote:Okay???


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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:20 pm

Federal Spanish States wrote:
Kowani wrote:Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.


Aha... sure... totally not the current political situation... totally not our politicians... totally not the current economy... nope, has to be a piece of our own culture. facepalms
Here’s the difference-all those are recognized as shameful. Bullfighting is not.
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Postby The Wasatch » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:22 pm

Bullfighting is an iconic cultural element, but it is quite barbaric. Surely it can be adapted in a way that doesn't involve stabbing an animal to death and maybe getting trampled?
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