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What is your racial background/identity?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm

White or Caucasian: European
283
65%
White or Caucasian: MENA
10
2%
East Asian (Japan to Indonesia)
32
7%
South Asian (Pakistan to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka)
13
3%
Black or African
12
3%
Latino/Latin American
19
4%
Native American
6
1%
Pacific Islander
1
0%
Mixed/Other (non-white)
6
1%
Mixed/Other (part-white)
55
13%
 
Total votes : 437

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:09 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I wonder how many people have a dna test :eyebrow:


I would out of curiosity but I just don't care enough to pay for it, for the cost of one I could probably buy a nice bottle of whiskey.


got one when I was like 6. It said I was like 15% west african, 5% Amerindian, 50% MENA, 27% southern european and 3% something else. Note that these stats may or may not be completely accurate as I'm basing it off memory, but this is close to what I got if it isn't exact. Not really interested in getting another DNA test though, as I identify as Hispanic whether a majority of my DNA is Spanish or not. I was raised latino, not arab. All my experiences growing up were that of a Hispanic and I speak way more Spanish than Arabic so that's all that matters to me. Besides I have more important things to do like spending the money on alcohol so I can forget that my life isn't bad. Because you can't have a bad life if you have no life at all
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:09 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I wonder how many people have a dna test :eyebrow:


I would out of curiosity but I just don't care enough to pay for it, for the cost of one I could probably buy a nice bottle of whiskey.
I made it and it was worth every penny :D
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:12 am

As far as I know im 90% African......theres probably some white and Native American in there somewhere.
I really need to do that DNA test.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:14 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:As far as I know im 90% African......theres probably some white and Native American in there somewhere.
I really need to do that DNA test.

23andme would recommend a nice company
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:15 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:As far as I know im 90% African......theres probably some white and Native American in there somewhere.
I really need to do that DNA test.


So you're black american?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:17 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:As far as I know im 90% African......theres probably some white and Native American in there somewhere.
I really need to do that DNA test.


So you're black american?

NO im African.
To say that im a black American would mean that im American.....im not.
Im an African.(or at least 90% of one)
(also....what the heck is black?)


Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:As far as I know im 90% African......theres probably some white and Native American in there somewhere.
I really need to do that DNA test.

23andme would recommend a nice company

How is it better than the others?
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[_★_] copy and paste. Join the revolution!!!! Stats are for the mentally advanced...change my mind.
( -_- ) My nation does support my political views...deal with it.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:52 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
So you're black american?

NO im African.
To say that im a black American would mean that im American.....im not.
Im an African.(or at least 90% of one)
(also....what the heck is black?)


I didn't know you were an african. you said 90% African and 10% white and native and I thought you were a black american, which means someone in the US who is majority sub Saharan African in background. I didn't know you were legit African
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Pacomia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:55 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:NO im African.
To say that im a black American would mean that im American.....im not.
Im an African.(or at least 90% of one)
(also....what the heck is black?)


I didn't know you were an african. you said 90% African and 10% white and native and I thought you were a black american, which means someone in the US who is majority sub Saharan African in background. I didn't know you were legit African

South Africans/Kenya?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:07 am

Pacomia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I didn't know you were an african. you said 90% African and 10% white and native and I thought you were a black american, which means someone in the US who is majority sub Saharan African in background. I didn't know you were legit African

South Africans/Kenya?


It's the native American part that made me think black american, because a lot of black folks here are mixed with white people and natives. I didn't know he actually was african
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Samudera Darussalam
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:27 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I wonder how many people have a dna test :eyebrow:

It seems costly. I'm going to broke :p
But then again I may not need such DNA test at this moment, since appearance-wise I can blend in into the crowds in Indonesia.

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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:34 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
So you're black american?

NO im African.
To say that im a black American would mean that im American.....im not.
Im an African.(or at least 90% of one)
(also....what the heck is black?)

I'm African. I'm not Black. You're Black African then. Though you also said you may have a tiny bit of native American so that'd imply African American.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:35 am

Heloin wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:NO im African.
To say that im a black American would mean that im American.....im not.
Im an African.(or at least 90% of one)
(also....what the heck is black?)

I'm African. I'm not Black. You're Black African then. Though you also said you may have a tiny bit of native American so that'd imply African American.

Perhaps Liberian? I used to read that it was a colony of freed slaves from the U.S.

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:58 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
I don't think many people in the US know what a Northumbrian is.


Is it wrong that when I think of northumbria, I remember this vampire horror novel I read that took place in that county?

Country, not county, and yes
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:11 am

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:23andme would recommend a nice company

How is it better than the others?
Has much more data and provide very detailed information.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:24 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Pacomia wrote:South Africans/Kenya?


It's the native American part that made me think black american, because a lot of black folks here are mixed with white people and natives. I didn't know he actually was african


I typically use black as a race and African-American as an ethnicity. So Barack is racially black but not ethnically African-American (his father is Kenyan and his mom is Anglo-white American), while Michelle is both racially black and descended from black slaves brought to the US.

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Maldegem wrote:White. What is that distinction MENA about?


Middle East North Africa.

One method of race classification categorizes people as Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. Arabs, Assyrians, and other groups in the Middle East region are grouped together with white people as Caucasoid. Like all racial classification, it is a subjective opinion. There are no objective standards for designating race.


There is a basis for grouping Europeans, West Asians, and North Africans into one overarching category in that West Asians and North Africans are genetically closer to Europeans than to other neighboring populations like South Asians, Central Asians, West Africans, etc. That being said, the “oid” system is too simplistic and is based more on physical appearance than genetic distance or culture differences.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
How is it better than the others?
Has much more data and provide very detailed information.


You can also download your raw data from 23andMe and upload it to other sites like GEDmatch, which has a bunch of different ancestry calculators that have more diverse reference populations you can compare your DNA with.
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Postby WorldNation3000 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:27 am

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:2017 edition

In light of Rojava Free State's poll on skin tone, and the periodic age polls in NSG, I thought I'd bring back the race poll to see if anything's changed in the last two years.

Some of the poll options may seem a bit unorthodox; the interest here is more focused on social interactions between various races on these forums than any stricter biological definitions, so technically the question is more "Are you a person of color or not, and how do you identify?" FYI I'll be using the US Census Bureau definition of White. The poll will be open for 60 days.




Feel free to discuss if you wish – since the poll is anonymous, there's no pressure to share any of your identity or to get into discussion, but if you want to, then go ahead. If you are so inclined, I think it could be interesting to hear some opinions on the race ratios on these forums and how they might affect our discussions of race-related issues.

If you do choose to join the discussion, just some basic guidelines and things to remember:
- Don't be racist*
- Remember that you can speak your mind but that anyone else has the right to refute you
- Keep an open mind and you just might learn something
- Do not speak for the experiences of other individuals or for identities that are not your own, and
- Do not expect someone to answer for their entire race
- Don't dominate the discussion please, especially if you and people backing you up on anything are in the majority (if we don't get to hear from every perspective then there's no point)
- If someone tells you you've done/said something racist or otherwise offensive, especially if you are in the majority (either on here or irl), stop and consider what they've said seriously before furiously typing a rebuttal.
- If you're stating opinion, make sure that you do it as an opinion and not a statement (e.g. "I think America is the best country", not "America is the best country")
- This is a discussion, not an argument.

*If you are racist, or want to share an opinion that could be construed as racist, consider whether it will have any constructive impact on the discussion. If it's something people can discuss, go right ahead, but don't post racist rhetoric if it's just going to break down the discussion.



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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:42 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It's the native American part that made me think black american, because a lot of black folks here are mixed with white people and natives. I didn't know he actually was african


I typically use black as a race and African-American as an ethnicity. So Barack is racially black but not ethnically African-American (his father is Kenyan and his mom is Anglo-white American), while Michelle is both racially black and descended from black slaves brought to the US.

Page wrote:
Middle East North Africa.

One method of race classification categorizes people as Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. Arabs, Assyrians, and other groups in the Middle East region are grouped together with white people as Caucasoid. Like all racial classification, it is a subjective opinion. There are no objective standards for designating race.


There is a basis for grouping Europeans, West Asians, and North Africans into one overarching category in that West Asians and North Africans are genetically closer to Europeans than to other neighboring populations like South Asians, Central Asians, West Africans, etc. That being said, the “oid” system is too simplistic and is based more on physical appearance than genetic distance or culture differences.


I don't like the term African American all that much because the ethnic group it refers to is really not African beyond genetics. Their culture is American as hell, moreso even than many white people. They aren't black either, but instead are a dark brown color on average, with some having olive or golden skin. Really black american and African American are both misleading terms
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Ayytaly » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:07 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Nowadays, yes. The areas of the US that contain the most people who identify their ethnicity as "American" are West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee, which is where all of those people settled.

Northumbrians are the real Americans


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Tatanka was the real American all along.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:20 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Northumbrians are the real Americans


Hulk Hogan is only a gimmick.

Tatanka was the real American all along.


Iron man was the realest American ever
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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