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Postby Confederation of the Equator » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:23 pm

Vanq, it brings tears to my eyes seeing someone who cares so much about the community's health and well-being! Keep up the good work bxddy
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:46 pm

Still swimming a few miles most days of the week, though I’ve added running into my schedule as well. It’s helped immensely with my overall endurance, although my knees are killing me. Is there a way to mitigate knee pain when you run frequently, or do I just sorta deal with this?
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Postby -Ocelot- » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:05 pm

How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:11 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.

I dont but you eat 3000 calories a day with a good bit of it being protein, you burn 4000 calories a day with a good bit of it being burned via weight training with your core muscles.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:27 am

-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.

I have an 8 pack, but.
I’m very skinny-65 kilos at 189 cm. Thus, very lean.
And I run distance.
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Postby Pacomia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:29 am

The thing about fitness is that it requires movement which I am not a big fan of
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:31 am

Kowani wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.

I have an 8 pack, but.
I’m very skinny-65 kilos at 189 cm. Thus, very lean.
And I run distance.


I relate, I'm a tiny 5'8 and 125 pounds. I've got a six pack but only because of distance swimming, and I'm definitely a little too skinny.

But to respond to Ocelot, at the end of the day, it's not about abdomen appearance or anything superficial. People could give a shit. It's about whether or not you feel like you're healthy and, if you have a desire to look good, whether or not you, well, look decent. Looking like a god damned stud isn't dependent on a six-pack, not dependent on being buff as fuck, nothing like that etc. It's mostly subjective half the time anyways.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:37 am

-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.


Definitely do not have a 6-pack, but eggs and tomatoes go pretty well together and can be combined with rice/bread for a wholesome, well-balanced meal.

Gotta agree with Major-Tom. No one really cares if you have abs, and tbh the guys I know IRL who had 6-packs at some point lost them when they got more into lifting and decided they needed to bulk up.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:38 am

Pacomia wrote:The thing about fitness is that it requires movement which I am not a big fan of


That's true for cardiovascular health but you can still do a few good things to your body without any endurance exercises. Lifting very big weights slowly (5-10 reps) can cause muscle hypertrophy and it doesn't require a lot of movement or too much time. Strength training is good for the heart and has some disease prevention properties.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:32 am

-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.


I go to the supermarket and buy one.
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Postby Medwind » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:36 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.


I go to the supermarket and buy one.

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Postby Thepeopl » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:05 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Still swimming a few miles most days of the week, though I’ve added running into my schedule as well. It’s helped immensely with my overall endurance, although my knees are killing me. Is there a way to mitigate knee pain when you run frequently, or do I just sorta deal with this?

You could ask a running coach to watch your running technique. I run with gel running shoes, but I run completely on my toes and am extremely flexible in the joints. So it might not be for you.
You could run on soft ground.
But as stated, go see a running coach or a sports doctor

How much do you run? Maybe you started to high. Do interval training. ( known as hiit,100 metre full speed, 200 normal speed, 5/ 6 times in a row. Don't forget the warming up, cooling down and the stretches)
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:23 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.


I go to the supermarket and buy one.


I've always preferred to buy eggs by the dozen.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:18 pm

Does anyone think that there is anything to this one theory that you can train different attributes just by varying the reps, sets, and resting time of a work out routine? Or is it all myth and a set and rep combination gets someone the same results overall, given two people doing equivalent effort and the only meaningful variables are the sets and reps being done with a particular weight and changing the resting time doesn't change the results someone gets after a few months to a year or more of doing this?

I've seen this one beginner workout scheme as follows:

Endurance: 3 sets of 12 to 20 reps, 30 to 45 seconds of rest. To improve your endurance, you basically need to force yourself to resume working out after only a short period of rest, and keep doing that to the best of your ability, gradually either inceasing reps or shortening your rest period. Lighter weight is typically used because so many reps are required but with far more limited rest time, so no one can do it if the weight used is too heavy. Its said to be very brutal in terms of discomfort, and to not get you ripped per say, but it unquestionably improves your stamina or ability to push through strain over time- if this works. Is perhaps similar to military training.

Muscle Growth: 3 sets of 6 to 12 reps, 60 to 90 seconds of rest. To improve muscle growth, you need fewer reps and longer rest but heavier weight. Enough rest should enable muscle fibers to heal more which should facilitate larger muscles over the long term if your nutrition is good.

Strength: 6 sets of 3 to 5 reps, 2 to 4 minutes of rest. To get more strength, you allegedly need even heavier weight but much fewer reps and more resting time, but more sets to counterbalance the relatively low amount of reps you're doing.

Power: 6 sets of 1 to 3 reps, 3 to 5 minutes of rest. To train power, use the heaviest weight you can bear to sustainably lift, but only do up to 3 reps. It's meant to push your limits, because it exerts so much effort, you need few reps but more rest when doing this, but more sets are done to make up for the lower amount of reps.

In theory, you can train all of these attributes each day or to train only one or a combination of 2 or 3 of the 4 attributes aforementioned, and you can end up with wildly different physiques and capabilities, in accordance with what type of training you gave priority to.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:38 pm

Saiwania wrote:Does anyone think that there is anything to this one theory that you can train different attributes just by varying the reps, sets, and resting time of a work out routine? Or is it all myth and a set and rep combination gets someone the same results overall, given two people doing equivalent effort and the only meaningful variables are the sets and reps being done with a particular weight and changing the resting time doesn't change the results someone gets after a few months to a year or more of doing this?

I've seen this one beginner workout scheme as follows:

Endurance: 3 sets of 12 to 20 reps, 30 to 45 seconds of rest. To improve your endurance, you basically need to force yourself to resume working out after only a short period of rest, and keep doing that to the best of your ability, gradually either inceasing reps or shortening your rest period. Lighter weight is typically used because so many reps are required but with far more limited rest time, so no one can do it if the weight used is too heavy. Its said to be very brutal in terms of discomfort, and to not get you ripped per say, but it unquestionably improves your stamina or ability to push through strain over time- if this works. Is perhaps similar to military training.

Muscle Growth: 3 sets of 6 to 12 reps, 60 to 90 seconds of rest. To improve muscle growth, you need fewer reps and longer rest but heavier weight. Enough rest should enable muscle fibers to heal more which should facilitate larger muscles over the long term if your nutrition is good.

Strength: 6 sets of 3 to 5 reps, 2 to 4 minutes of rest. To get more strength, you allegedly need even heavier weight but much fewer reps and more resting time, but more sets to counterbalance the relatively low amount of reps you're doing.

Power: 6 sets of 1 to 3 reps, 3 to 5 minutes of rest. To train power, use the heaviest weight you can bear to sustainably lift, but only do up to 3 reps. It's meant to push your limits, because it exerts so much effort, you need few reps but more rest when doing this, but more sets are done to make up for the lower amount of reps.

In theory, you can train all of these attributes each day or to train only one or a combination of 2 or 3 of the 4 attributes aforementioned, and you can end up with wildly different physiques and capabilities, in accordance with what type of training you gave priority to.


Yes you can tailor your workouts to focus on specific muscle groups or traits like, speed or quickness, or power or endurance.

That said I think you are way overthinking it, just pick a general goal and work towards that.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:07 am

Should endurance exercises with small weights and 100+ reps count as aerobic or anaerobic? Are they good for cardiovascular health?
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Postby Kubra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:33 am

-Ocelot- wrote:How do you people achieve 6-pack? Do you exclusively eat eggs and tomatoes or something? I can't do it.
by having low amount of body fat. That's it. You could neglect your core entirely and so long as you eating a deficit you'll get that there 6 pack. It'll be worthless and it won't even look good, but you'll get it.
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Postby Thepeopl » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:34 am

Six pack, just work on the land, eat healthy, ride horses and sleep well.

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Postby Kubra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:37 pm

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Thepeopl wrote:Six pack, just work on the land, eat healthy, ride horses and sleep well.


Ride horses? I prefer anthro ponies 8)

Kubra wrote: by having low amount of body fat. That's it. You could neglect your core entirely and so long as you eating a deficit you'll get that there 6 pack. It'll be worthless and it won't even look good, but you'll get it.


Yeah. Skinny fat abs
More or less.
Folks shouldn't care too much about a 6 pack, even a well worked one. There's only a few instances where you'd actually want them, like going down a weight category in certain contact sports. For the average lifter, it's enough simply that the core gets strengthened and holds its own during compound lifts, not that you flaunt it.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:59 pm

I've lost almost 50lbs this past year with minimal exercise. Here I thought dieting was the hard part.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:14 pm

V A N Q U A R I A wrote:
Kubra wrote: More or less.
Folks shouldn't care too much about a 6 pack, even a well worked one. There's only a few instances where you'd actually want them, like going down a weight category in certain contact sports. For the average lifter, it's enough simply that the core gets strengthened and holds its own during compound lifts, not that you flaunt it.


I disagree. Abs look good. Helps with girls 2 8)
Sure they look good but that's it, and you wanna know what looks better? Going up a few pounds on the bench. That *feels* better, man.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:25 pm

V A N Q U A R I A wrote:
Kubra wrote: Sure they look good but that's it, and you wanna know what looks better? Going up a few pounds on the bench. That *feels* better, man.


I think we're different people when it comes to working out then. I dont care about functionality, Im more about aesthetics. Natural aesthetics ofc. Maybe when Im a more mature adult then Ill realize functionality is more important than aesthetics but right now Im too horny to give a shit.
idk man grow out of it while you're young, at peak you ain't gonna push the same numbers a few years down the line
besides I ain't saying get powerlifter fat, just y'know watch your cut, you ain't gotta get all veiny and shit
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