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Postby Gormwood » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:47 am

A giant pumice stone floating in the Pacific could help heal Australia's Great Barrier Reef

With all the news about climate change and the Amazon Forest catching fire, it's nice to see something that looks like the Earth trying to fix itself despite humanity.

How long you think it'll take to repair the GBR if the whole pumice thing works? Are there other ways the Earth will try to clean up Man's mess besides doing away with humanity?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:52 am

The earth isn't a conscious being. It doesn't choose to fix itself. Nature just naturally stays in equilibrium due to the consequences of one's actions

Too Many people eat up all the food and as a result they'll all starve.no supernatural mother earth goddess needed there
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:54 am

When in doubt just remember that volcanoes will fix everything one way or another.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:55 am

What a bizarre thing.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:56 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:When in doubt just remember that volcanoes will fix everything one way or another.

Best answer.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:58 am

Finally, some good fucking news.
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Postby Vivolkha » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:07 am

We're not always going to be this lucky.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:03 am

Neat.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:04 am

Rojava Free State wrote:The earth isn't a conscious being. It doesn't choose to fix itself. Nature just naturally stays in equilibrium due to the consequences of one's actions

Too Many people eat up all the food and as a result they'll all starve.no supernatural mother earth goddess needed there

No shit dude. Nobody was saying otherwise.
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:48 am

Smh, not a bad move, Mother Nature. Not a bad move.

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Postby Thepeopl » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:48 pm

According to the article, the redistribution of organisms happens every 5 years. So it already happened 7 times since 1985, when the first alerts came that the great barrier reef was dying.

If we don't stop polluting, the great barrier reef will never restore.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:The earth isn't a conscious being. It doesn't choose to fix itself. Nature just naturally stays in equilibrium due to the consequences of one's actions

Too Many people eat up all the food and as a result they'll all starve.no supernatural mother earth goddess needed there


Mmm, not exactly. The planet indeed has cleaning processes for itself. These just take some time. Longer than we give it a chance to complete.
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Postby Playing In The Water » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:21 am

What Nanatsu said. The 'natural order of things' absolutely is self-correcting, given enough time, but humanity plays on an altogether faster wavelength than most any of those processes can manage. Oftentimes, with the damage we do to a given niche, that ecosystem's natural 'correcting' process is one we are already sabotaging elsewhere, as well, either inadvertently or very...well, vertently. Usually for money. Well, no; always for money. The rich make the rules, and trees, fish, and nearly-extinct little baby-eyed rodents that are so cute you could cuddle them all day don't provide many lobbyists nor wealthy backing to the decision-makers. The long and short of it is that all the power is in the hands of those who benefit most highly by doing the most damage as quickly as possible, and that has always been - and will always be - the case.

As for this pumice stone cure-all hope, I really have some bad news about that; the Great Barrier Reef has just had its death warrant signed by events thousands of kilometres away:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2019082 ... ic-on-fire

This is the tipping point. One of the single largest long-term carbon sinks on the planet is one its way to becoming a vociferous carbon-producer. As the article says:

...if the forests burn and tundra melts, we could dramatically increase the amount of carbon in our atmosphere – essentially rendering useless even the most coordinated global attempts to cut global emissions.

That means all of it. Every fundraiser, every green town hall meeting, every windmill farm, every multinational attempt to coordinate a lower-carbon response to the world we've changed; all of it rendered utterly irrelevant by the sheer volume of formerly-contained gasses being released from the permafrost. This was the tipping point that climate experts were warning us about decades ago; one they said would come by 2040, 2050 or so, that would irrevocably alter our world. We've just done so well as a species that we've jumped that mark tens of years ahead of schedule.

Now I don't exactly recall what the latest details on the GBR were, but I seem to remember most experts on the thing saying that a warmer world - and subsequently warmer oceans - were not going to do it a lot of good. As we have got a HUGE dose of virtually uncontrollable warming en route, I think that a bi-decadal pumice stone bath is not going to be quite enough to stave off the inevitable.

All I can really say is that if you value the Great Barrier Reef, I would highly recommend you get over to Queensland and dive it while you can; it's not going to be around for very much longer.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:02 am

This was a rock solid move by the volcano!
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:12 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:This was a rock solid move by the volcano!

The Great Barrier Reef really needed to get stoned.
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