Republicans don't understand immigration

[Kowani]

I wouldn't say it's abuse when Jose and his kids flee here from horrific violence in central america. I think a lot of americans just don't want to accept Jose whether he has a reason to come here or not. I don't doubt your sincerity in the issue because you're Latino but a lot of people here are angry about illegal immigration simply because these folks aren't white. I have a feeling if it was a bunch of Japanese folks crossing the border illegally, less people would care

We shouldn't let some terrorist disguised as a refugee come here. But some of the things considered to be "abusing the asylum system" are ridiculous. People fleeing civil war have always counted for our asylum program

Asylum for economic reasons is not and should not be a right of Asylum, violence of gangs, criminals and other bad persons is not and should not be a right of Asylum, unless it is the foreign governments doing the violence indirectly through private groups and it can be proven the governments are behind it.

If the government can’t control the criminal gangs, that’s a pretty good reason.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Asylum for economic reasons is not and should not be a right of Asylum, violence of gangs, criminals and other bad persons is not and should not be a right of Asylum, unless it is the foreign governments doing the violence indirectly through private groups and it can be proven the governments are behind it.

If the government can’t control the criminal gangs, that’s a pretty good reason.

lol, security of its citizens is the responsibility of all governments, we can help but we are not responsible for their criminals actions, like they are not responsible for our criminals actions.

My post above are the reasons I say Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration.

[Novus America]

And it is hard to get into a really good school.
Because supply grossly exceeds demand we can place restrictions to get the people we think are best.

If you apply for a very competitive job or scholarships and fail to get it, it is not fair to feel you were entitled and the job or scholarship is to blame.

…What exactly do illegal immigrants have to do with schools, considering they don’t tend to y’know, go there?

It is an analogy.
When there are more applicants than openings in any case, be it jobs, scholarships, schools athletic competitions, etc, not everyone will make the cut. This does not mean the system is inherently to blame just because you were unable to meet the standards or another person was more qualified.

[Aclion]

So, what will make them understand? Why do they not know why immigration is very difficult? And why are there so many ridiculous restrictions?

When did you stop beating your wife?

[Ethel mermania]

I strongly disagree legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do understand, it should be that easy to understand, apply in your nations of origin, meet the requirements all nations have and wait your turn, like I did in the hell hole nation of Cuba for x numbers of years.

Life is more nuanced than that. Before I throw someone out of my country, I wanna know why they illegally immigrated to begin with. If it's some BS like "I wanted a job" then goodbye get out. But there's always that 1% of cases that are different

Also just a reminder to Every one that if someone crosses the border and surrenders to authorities to ask for asylum, it technically isn't illegal immigration

If they cross at a border crossing agreed. If the cross illegally and then ask for asylum when they are picked up, not so much.

[Rojava Free State]

I wouldn't say it's abuse when Jose and his kids flee here from horrific violence in central america. I think a lot of americans just don't want to accept Jose whether he has a reason to come here or not. I don't doubt your sincerity in the issue because you're Latino but a lot of people here are angry about illegal immigration simply because these folks aren't white. I have a feeling if it was a bunch of Japanese folks crossing the border illegally, less people would care

We shouldn't let some terrorist disguised as a refugee come here. But some of the things considered to be "abusing the asylum system" are ridiculous. People fleeing civil war have always counted for our asylum program

Asylum for economic reasons is not and should not be a right of Asylum, violence of gangs, criminals and other bad persons is not and should not be a right of Asylum, unless it is the foreign governments doing the violence indirectly through private groups and it can be proven the governments are behind it, that is what I mean by Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration.

PRetty sure there isn't much of a difference when the war level violence in your country is caused by gangs as opposed to terrorists

Also, MS13 originated in america as did 18th street and both ended up in central America because we deported some of their members there. That's kinda our fault and we ought to let people in here if they're fleeing the gangs we put in their nations

[Rojava Free State]

If the government can’t control the criminal gangs, that’s a pretty good reason.

lol, security of its citizens is the responsibility of all governments, we can help but we are not responsible for their criminals actions, like they are not responsible for our criminals actions.

My post above are the reasons I say Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration.

allowing people in btw to flee gangs isn't open borders. We can still deport economic migrants while accepting in refugees fleeing violence, and we ought to both out of respect for human life and even more so cause we caused much of this violence

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

lol, security of its citizens is the responsibility of all governments, we can help but we are not responsible for their criminals actions, like they are not responsible for our criminals actions.

My post above are the reasons I say Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration.

allowing people in btw to flee gangs isn't open borders. We can still deport economic migrants while accepting in refugees fleeing violence, and we ought to both out of respect for human life and even more so cause we caused much of this violence

I strongly disagree but respect your right to your views on any issues and your right to post them.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Life is more nuanced than that. Before I throw someone out of my country, I wanna know why they illegally immigrated to begin with. If it's some BS like "I wanted a job" then goodbye get out. But there's always that 1% of cases that are different

Also just a reminder to Every one that if someone crosses the border and surrenders to authorities to ask for asylum, it technically isn't illegal immigration

If they cross at a border crossing agreed. If the cross illegally and then ask for asylum when they are picked up, not so much.

The problem is many who apply don't qualify for any kind of asylum, yet they are allowed to stay in detention centers or released into the nation while they wait their case to be decided either way, and many don't show up for their cases thinking they wont be allowed to stay, then they become officially illegal immigrants subject to deportation, President Trump is trying to change that loophole, and democrats in congress and democrat candidates are opposed to him on that and all his anti illegal immigration laws.

Eventually someone has to mention President Trump when talking about immigration issues on any immigration related thread for obvious reasons like I just did, it fits my post and it is allowed and we are allowed to compare other US Presidents and nations immigration policies as well, just pointing that out.