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6 Philly officers wounded in ongoing shootout

Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:35 pm

Wow.
At least six Philadelphia police officers were wounded, at least one reportedly grazed in the head, in an ongoing shootout in the city's Nicetown neighborhood on Wednesday afternoon that has been unfolding for almost two hours.

Three officers were rushed to Temple University Hospital, officials told Fox 29.

Three other officers were taken to Einstein Hospital, at least one of them was shot in the arm. All six officers are in stable condition and are being treated for non-life threatening injuries.

Two other officers, including a police sergeant, were injured in an accident related to the emergency response and are being treated for non-life threatening injuries.

High-ranking police officials said that two officers with the Narcotics Strike Force were serving a warrant at a multifamily home when a shooter opened fire at the home. The two officers are barricaded in separate rooms with as many as four suspects in what may be a drug-related offense. At least one suspect is actively shooting, firing up a stairwell from a lower level in the building or potentially moving up and down the stairwell while doing so. One officer is barricaded in a bedroom with two suspects while another is in a bathroom with another suspect.

Hostage negotiators, as well as the SWAT team, is on the scene and will try to enter the building as soon as they are able to.

Hundreds of rounds of gunfire could be heard although the weapon being used by the shooter remains unknown.

One suspect is in custody.

The situation was being described as an active shooting scene that began around 4:30 p.m.

Officers called for backup frantically saying "shots fired, shots fired at North 15th street."

Video footage of the scene showed a massive police presence in the neighborhood as hundreds of responding police officers and police cars from the Philadelphia Police Department as well as special agents from the Philadelphia Field Division blocked off the streets surrounding 15th and Butler streets, crouching behind cars, many with their guns drawn, in search of a possible gunman, according to reports by WCAU.

One officer appeared injured and was taken away in a police car. Video also showed two other officers carrying a man and putting them in the back of a police car, according to reports by the Associated Press.

Police are cautioning the community to stay indoors as gunshots continue to ring out in the neighborhood, in one-minute increments, and police search for an active shooter.

PPD Sgt. Eric Gripp tweeted "Suspect is still firing. STAY OUT OF THE AREA."

This is pretty insane and yet another example of the bravery of police officers in America. So, NSG, is this yet another example of gun violence in America or is it more representative of the gradual decay of our once proud cities? In my opinion, it is the latter. The City of Brotherly Love doesn't seem to convey much brotherly love anymore.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Maybe we should wait until we know the circumstances before we point fingers.

Mainly because it's hard to suggest solutions when we don't know what the problem is.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:40 pm

Vassenor wrote:Maybe we should wait until we know the circumstances before we point fingers.

Mainly because it's hard to suggest solutions when we don't know what the problem is.

They tried to serve a warrant and the guy started shooting.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:40 pm

No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:41 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.

Not a smart move in the City That Bombed Itself.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:42 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.


Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:43 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.


Isn't the druggies shooting back gun violence? They're using guns afterall.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:44 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.


Isn't the druggies shooting back gun violence? They're using guns afterall.

Nope, it's just violence. Guns cannot cause violence.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:44 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.


Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?

Maybe the druggies shouldn't have had drugs in the first place?
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Postby Danubia-Slavia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:44 pm

I think it's a mix of recession in our cities, drug crime, and the new trend where disrespecting and de-humanizing police officers is cool. The recession of northern cities such as Philly, Baltimore, and Chicago brought the drug ring into power, and as those people got actual money, others got hooked off the drugs and spent all their money buying more. The once great American cities have now devolved into desperation and drugs, and the new national belief that "cop shooting black individual equals racism means all cops are the bad guys now" isn't helping the situation. We need to expand our police force to tackle the drug issue, but people are too scared of our own police force to let it happen

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:44 pm

I hope the shoot out ends with the idiots giving up peacefully and all the cops making a full and quick recovery.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:45 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:No such thing as "gun violence"
It is stemming from a narcotics raid, cops went to bust em and the druggies are fighting back.


Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?


Gee, its almost as if criminals wouldnt give a shit about laws in the first fucking place.

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Postby Cedoria » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:47 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Isn't the druggies shooting back gun violence? They're using guns afterall.

Nope, it's just violence. Guns cannot cause violence.

Sure they don't, in the same ways cars don't cause driving.
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Grinning Dragon wrote:
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Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?

Maybe the druggies shouldn't have had drugs in the first place?

They shouldn't, but they did. They shouldn't have been able to buy guns in the first place.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?


Gee, its almost as if criminals wouldnt give a shit about laws in the first fucking place.


So much this.

Hopefully, this is brought to a swift conclusion without more officers getting injured.

Cedoria wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Nope, it's just violence. Guns cannot cause violence.

Sure they don't, in the same ways cars don't cause driving.


Gee, I must be doing something wrong to own as many guns as I do and having zero instances of violence magically spontaneously erupt from them.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Isn't the druggies shooting back gun violence? They're using guns afterall.

Nope, it's just violence. Guns cannot cause violence.


Nah, it's gun violence. Just like people stabbing people is knife violence and people hitting each other with baseball bats is baseball bat violence.

I get you don't like it because you see it as an attack on guns but it's just how the language works.

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:48 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Maybe the druggies shouldn't have had drugs in the first place?

They shouldn't, but they did. They shouldn't have been able to buy guns in the first place.

Can we not? We don't even know if the guns were acquired legally or not.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:48 pm

It's certainly a worrisome turn of events but the hell is the OP trying to make some sweeping claims about American cities based on one drug bust gone wrong?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:49 pm

Liriena wrote:It's certainly a worrisome turn of events but the hell is the OP trying to make some sweeping claims about American cities based on one drug bust gone wrong?

Because our cities are crime-infested, poverty-infested shitholes. Philly is a good example.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:49 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?


Gee, its almost as if criminals wouldnt give a shit about laws in the first fucking place.


We don't know if the guns where bought legally or illegally.

If legally, it could have been stopped at the point of sale.

If illegally, the cops could have had a chance to stop the Gun smuggling ring that got it in the first place.
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Grinning Dragon wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Maybe the druggies shouldn't have guns in the first place?

Maybe the druggies shouldn't have had drugs in the first place?

You have a problem with drug dealers carrying drugs but not guns. The disconnect...
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Danubia-Slavia wrote:We need to expand our police force to tackle the drug issue

Or maybe stop criminalizing drug use?
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Liriena wrote:
Danubia-Slavia wrote:We need to expand our police force to tackle the drug issue

Or maybe stop criminalizing drug use?

Legalize all drugs. Suicide is legal, after all.
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Nova Cyberia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:They shouldn't, but they did. They shouldn't have been able to buy guns in the first place.

Can we not? We don't even know if the guns were acquired legally or not.

Grinning Dragon bought it up.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:52 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Maybe the druggies shouldn't have had drugs in the first place?

You have a problem with drug dealers carrying drugs but not guns. The disconnect...

Drugs are illegal, guns are not.

Totes simples.
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